While searching for a lambda sensor for my Felicia (1300cc, year 2000 model, 68PS AMH)

https://nemigaparts.com/cat_spares/etka/skoda/fel/101/906000/

in the list are the 6U0906265 B, 6U0906265 C, 6U0906265 E.

As for BOSCH take a look 2 of them in a store:

https://www.todos.gr/bosch-aisthitiras-lamda-0258003666

 

https://www.todos.gr/bosch-aisthitiras-lamda-0258003745

 

the weird is that at the top says it's for 68PS model but at the bottom says 54 PS for both of them!

 

My factory lambda sensor has the VW Audi symbol, says 6U0906265 E and below NF (i am not sure for the F because i am not at home now)

and the word JAPAN and of course the front part is not like the BOSCH sensors.

So let's say i want to replace it with a BOSCH is there a model to choose? Or should i look for another brand?

 

 

The original sensor was made by NGK. This

14 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

and the word JAPAN

confirms it.

 

According to their catalogue, replacement for 6U0906265E is OZA457-I1

 

Edited 9 April, 20224 yr by Papez

As i see it now in the morning light says

NTK: JAPAN 9E29

I don't know what NTK means.

View this on computer, not phone, and click on the sideways arrows button in the far right column of the row containing 6U0 906 265E. All equivalent part numbers will appear in a pop-up. control unit for air-con. - Felicia(FEL) [EUROPA 2000 year] (7zap.com)

I just saw (via the above link) that NTK i from NGK group.

 

 

This one is Meat & Doria (Hoffer are from the same factor i think) which the front part looks the same to the original lambda sensor, has any one experience from this brand?

Well havent changed mine yet but i've bought a replacment

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Given the choice of some "German made" brand and a made in Japan 11 times out of 10 I would buy the one made in Japan.

 

@nta16 I am not convinced that the Bosch that a parts store suggested me and i installed is the proper one.

 

13 hours ago, Papez said:

replacement for 6U0906265E is OZA457-I1

 

The weird thing is the price for this item, take a look few examples:

155 euro , 156 euro , 168 euro but in other stores has 71 euro , 74 euro , 40 euro  even in Greece a store has it for 49 euro (all of them without shipping), is that logical?

 

Is it the Bosch parts that have a Bosch sticker on them then you peel it off to see the original manufacture.

 

2 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The weird thing is the price for this item, 

 . . . is that logical?

Yes different companies have different buying and overheads and what they sell for, plus their location, generally most business in UK have to pay taxes and other overheads.

12 hours ago, nta16 said:

Is it the Bosch parts that have a Bosch sticker on them then you peel it off to see the original manufacture.

 

 

No, was this one, the Bosch 0258003745

 

 

They suggest me to buy this but i denied.

 

 

It was the Bosch 0258003666.

ETA: Bosch 0258003745 -

 

A quick look at two suppliers shows (you would have to confirm the information) it as -

• Skoda part 6U0 906 265 C,
• VW 441 0 4165 042 6, 6U0 906 265 C,

• BOSCH 0 258 986 505 (LS 3745)

• NTK (NGK-GROUP) 0183, OZA447-E13, OZA457-EE19
• NGK 97908, OZA457EE19
• Engine Code: AMH [50 Kw / 68 HP], Exhaust System: in front of the catalyst, Lambda Sensor: Regulating Probe, Supplementary Article/Info 2: for lead-free fuel

• Overall Length [mm]545

  Number of Poles 4

  Recommended replace interval [km]160000

Bosch, like other German stuff, isn't always the best but they are very good with some stuff and that ought to include Lambda sensors.

 

Up to you which data(bases) you believe or disbelieve they all have errors and omissions but with a car the age of yours it is possible to have superseded part number - but I do not know if this is the case here - so more than one part available that are basically the same and will do the same job.  As your car is modified and 21+ years old it might be that you do not need to worry about getting the part with the exact original part number if that has been superseded provided you are careful about match the numbers and information.

 

Edited 12 April, 20224 yr by nta16
ETA:

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

Bosch, like other German stuff, isn't always the best but they are very good with some stuff and that ought to include Lambda sensors.

 

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/499328-how-much-time-do-you-warm-up-your-felicia/page/2/#elControls_5605264_menu

 

@Papez said : original supplier was NGK, and Bosch units were reported as less reliable. If the sensor won't fail entirely, it won't generate an error code, it requires skilled technician and maybe even exhaust gas probe to check proper function.

 

That's why i don't want to install Bosch, the same VW group parts store suggested me 2 different sensors in 2 visits and the programmer had some doubts for that (Bosch) that i already have, he said "yes works, send signals but i think would be better to find the original because would work better with the ECU".

Fair enough, as I put before I would favour Japanese made over (possibly) German made but that's my bias and regardless I would go for whichever is better.

 

54 minutes ago, nta16 said:

 I would favour Japanese made over (possibly) German made

 

 

That mess with the prices for NGK makes me hesitate, i haven't seen it with other brand while searching for lambda sensors.

Have you heard of Meat & Doria (Hoffer) products? Are italian made.

2 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Have you heard of Meat & Doria (Hoffer) products? Are italian made.

Personally no but I only buy parts for much older cars than yours, given a choice I personally would buy genuine Japanese electronic parts.

 

While looking for Japan λ sensor i saw that on the Denso DOX-0117

https://www.todos.gr/denso-aisthitiras-lamda-dox0117#tecdoc-oem

i can not find the 6U0906265E but has the 06A906265E, they are the same?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

6U0906265E but has the 06A906265E, they are the same?

 

06A is code of the EA113 engine family, so I doubt they'll be the same.. I'd just get the NGK probe.

2 hours ago, Papez said:

I'd just get the NGK probe.

I am searching in the local market for NGK OZA457-I1, still no results so i have to search in abroad parts store.

Part number LC-9586 - SKODA, VOLKSWAGEN - 6U0 906 265 E, 6U0906265E - NGK 4 wire 516mm - Connector type  36

 

NGK Direct Fit £76.99 - Bosch Universal Part Number UN15 £49.99

 

- https://secure.lambdapower.co.uk/partsearch/az2.asp?IDlist=LC-9586

 

Edited 11 April, 20224 yr by nta16

12 minutes ago, nta16 said:

 

NGK Direct Fit £76.99 

 

 

https://www.antallaktikaonline.gr/ngk/1040616?origin=1&redirect=1

 

Basically is AUTODOC AG but i wonder is a reliable? I haven't bought from this e-store before.

Sorry but it is literally all Greek to me.  Personally I would sooner pay more (perhaps initially) with a reliable supplier who uses reliable sources to get their stock from.  Cheap items can often work out expensive or very expensive in the short, medium and long term.

  

https://www.ngkntk.com/service/where-to-buy/

 

I have never used this place but their website offers advice and tools too, they post to Greece, do order tracking if you want it, and if you are in a rush "International Airmail Upgrade" for £8.99 extra. 

https://secure.lambdapower.co.uk/ordering.asp

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

Sorry but it is literally all Greek to me.

AUTODOC AG
Josef-Orlopp-Straße 55

10365 Berlin Germany

 

As for the .gr in the end is a clone for Greek market, the items come from abroad.

 

I send an email to NGK to suggest me their local distributor since it's not easy to find this sensor in e-store parts here

https://www.ngkntk.com/gr/anazitisi-proionton/productfinder/category/PKW-LAMBDASONDEN/product/12395/?cHash=ef600894ef963e7765da248baa7881f9

I think others on here might order from Autodoc but I have no idea how good they are, as long as its genuine NGK and not fake, I do not get the impression they would knowingly have fakes but I do not really know.

 

18 hours ago, nta16 said:

Part number LC-9586 - SKODA, VOLKSWAGEN - 6U0 906 265 E, 6U0906265E - NGK 4 wire 516mm - Connector type  36

 

 

It's not in the list for Felicia

 

https://secure.lambdapower.co.uk/partsearch/az2.asp?manu=Skoda&model_grouping=Felicia

 

LP-18679 (rear) ,LP-42480 (front), LP-42481(front)

I don't see the LC-9586.