Not a for sale post.

Going to be punting this on soon (or so I claim) but was wanting to pick the brains of yous on thoughts of values etc.

 

The Good:

• Low mileage. 65,100 miles or thereabouts.
• Has had money spent on it. Got a big fat ****ing booklet thing to confirm that.
• Nice shiny alloy wheels from a Bohemia. Steels are available for now.
• It hasn't been put through a hedge (touch wood).
• It's a whole car, which given some of the absolute rotheaps you see on the road, is very good.
• Hunner an' eighty quid VED.
• 40+ MPG (resolving fuelling issues at time of writing typing)
• Nice shiny new headlights.
• "Angry" (not my words, those of someone else) sounding three pot engine. (1.2 12v BME, manual)
• Good spec... heated mirrors, front fog lights, ABS, two air bags, Skoda Symphony HU (or VW Gamma) with 8 speakers (all four mids have been upgraded for Pioneers).
• Handles well. Rear beam clamps (Edit: soon to be fitted). Soon to have front console bushes polybushed.
• Air con that... well... cons the air.

 

The Bad:

• Air con makes weird noises while running.
• Something is clunking (WIP).
• Overfuelling (WIP).
• Driver's seat padding is a bit poor.
• Service history... uhhhhhhh moving on. Seriously though, it's got two services documented, both by me so you know they're good . Looked to have been recently serviced when I did it the first time.

 

The Ugly (being honest, see pics):

• Dents
• Scratches
• Key marks
• Small lacquer peels
• Mild surface rust on rear sills.

 

General nonsense:

 

Cosmetics are what let this car down. So if you're a vain and shallow buyer who obsesses over cosmetic ****e, then this is not for you. Otherwise, buy and drive without worrying (just not yet). Has many interior and exterior modifications including new gearknob gaiter, mudguards, wind deflectors, alloy wheels (as mentioned), pre-facelift rear lights and so on.

 

I honestly have no idea what it's worth. But a rough estimate would be quite nice. It's just a simple, honest car. 'Nuff said.

 

Photos below:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 29 July, 20223 yr by AnnoyingPentium
Accuracy etc etc.

1 hour ago, AnnoyingPentium said:

Rear beam clamps fitted.

 

What are those, Ryan?

1 minute ago, TMB said:

 

What are those, Ryan?

 

@DieselMonte is better elaborating as to what they are. Meant to be like a more mild RARB, but without as much of the strength of one, plus cheaper. Also meant to say that they've yet to be fitted. Got them here though along with the polybushes.

^ Oh right

1 hour ago, TMB said:

 

What are those, Ryan?

Very hack project I've been working on

As Ryan says trying to get a similar effect of a rarb without spending the money.

I got the idea from this article.

https://www.autospeed.com/cms/a_113302/article

Your man did this to a roomster no less.

I think my approach is lacking in a few areas, namely the metal I use is really thin compared to what is shown in the article.

I use a 10mm threaded bar and bend it to suit same as that article, using my old drum axle as a reference to get the right shape.

Then used a strip of thin metal to go over the open V part.

Currently a pair of these fitted to both my fabias.

I'm still fairly worried that I'm just experiencing a placebo effect on both cars, but I think it has tightened both of them up a bit more.

Mk2 has quite a lot of work done to it, including a rarb, mk1 less so but still has a little bit done to it.

I hope Ryan can weigh in if he puts them on his car.

If I'm proven right then it's great, if not well it just means I need to go back to the drawing board.

I do like these little hack projects, and the Mk1 is a great excuse for me to try these things.

Has had money spent on it - that's impressive and helps with a sale but might not add that much value to the more experienced buyer.

 

Got a big fat ****ing booklet thing to confirm that. - that's always impressive especially if in strict order of some sort (reverse chronological perhaps) and the whole thing is presented well, better to have loose pages in clear plastic pockets/envelopes.  Some with be very impressed if you colour code the booklet to the car and you have separate sections for MoTs and other history.

 

"Angry" sounding three pot engine - not a description I used - would  use - in any advert or description as it sounds like it might be knackered, unless it means something different to younger folk and you only want to sell it to them.

 

Handles well. Rear beam clamps, soon to have front console bushes polybushed - careful with this as it might suggest you drive the car hard, and there are good bushes and ****-poor bushes available no one knows all the names so I'd leave it at rebushed if you want to include this and leave the potential buyer to ask for more detail if they want.

 

Something is clunking (WIP) and  (WIP) - both you really want sorted before any test drives

 

Driver's seat padding is a bit poor - that's a shame, you've got the good impression of clean door shuts, driver's or front seats, steering wheel and gear knob make a good impression on a better presented car like yours.

 

Service history... - you make up for with your extensive big fat booklet, make it a section in that, will look better as a part of something bigger than a slim volume of its own.

 

You can tone down dents, scratches and key marks with paint and polishes and not presenting the car highly polished like a new car at a dealership, reasonably clean is fine with even a slight layer of dust as this is a used car despite many expecting it to be brand new others will be pleased to see it has all its doors and painted the same colour.

 

Mild surface rust on rear sills - use something like Kurust to at least stop (slow down) the rust on show, you can then leave it as it is or touch-up paint over, both will show up so you're not hiding anything or pulling a fast one, leave with just Kurust (as with some of the others?).

 

So if you're a vain and shallow buyer who obsesses over cosmetic ****e, then this is not for you - don't alienate or put off any potential buyers, let them decide the levels and standards they want, if they have objections you can work out then do so, any potential purchaser that is really willing to buy is worth thousands of those that haven't contacted you.

 

Highlight what's important to the buyer not you, what's important to you may not be to them and the other way round, they may just tell you or you can ask questions or pick up on what they say.

 

Personally I wouldn't have any personal stuff in the car for the sale photos, (again a clean engine bay and boot deck impresses many, shiny under the wheel arches might be a step too far though.  Any car stuff in the photos a buyer may expects and sales can be lost over silly little things particular with something as personal to many/some as a car, if the car mats or anything isn't going with the car don't include them in the photos to avoid confusion.  Plus it give you the opportunity if you want to throw such stuff in as a sweetener to swing the sale, silly little things can make as well as break a sale or make up for any other awkwardness.   Also remember you are selling the car not buying the buyer, you don't have particularly like them, don't be false but do be courteous, there are two parties to the deal you can walk away from it but so can they.

 

Oh, no, sorry I've no idea what's it's worth but if you want to sell it I'd suggest you don't hang about and get it advertised as soon and as widely as possible, don't forget locally too, but don't sell to anyone you know and never family as they always want something for nothing and blame you for all the mistreatment they give the car.

 

Good luck.

 

Edited 30 July, 20223 yr by nta16
wrong context

20 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Has had money spent on it - that's impressive and helps with a sale but might not add that much value to the more experienced buyer.

 

Got a big fat ****ing booklet thing to confirm that. - that's always impressive especially if in strict order of some sort (reverse chronological perhaps) and the whole thing is presented well, better to have loose pages in clear plastic pockets/envelopes.  Some with be very impressed if you colour code the booklet to the car and you have separate sections for MoTs and other history.

 

"Angry" sounding three pot engine - not a description I used in any advert or description as it sounds like it might be knackered, unless it means something different to younger folk and you only want to sell it to them.

 

Handles well. Rear beam clamps, soon to have front console bushes polybushed - careful with this as it might suggest you drive the car hard, and there are good bushes and ****-poor bushes available no one knows all the names so I'd leave it at rebushed if you want to include this and leave the potential buyer to ask for more detail if they want.

 

Something is clunking (WIP) and  (WIP) - both you really want sorted before any test drives

 

Driver's seat padding is a bit poor - that's a shame, you've got the good impression of clean door shuts, driver's or front seats, steering wheel and gear knob make a good impression on a better presented car like yours.

 

Service history... - you make up for with your extensive big fat booklet, make it a section in that, will look better as a part of something bigger than a slim volume of its own.

 

You can tone down dents, scratches and key marks with paint and polishes and not presenting the car highly polished like a new car at a dealership, reasonably clean is fine with even a slight layer of dust as this is a used car despite many expecting it to be brand new others will be pleased to see it has all its doors and painted the same colour.

 

Mild surface rust on rear sills - use something like Kurust to at least stop (slow down) the rust on show, you can then leave it as it is or touch-up paint over, both will show up so you're not hiding anything or pulling a fast one, leave with just Kurust (as with some of the others?).

 

So if you're a vain and shallow buyer who obsesses over cosmetic ****e, then this is not for you - don't alienate or put off any potential buyers, let them decide the levels and standards they want, if they have objections you can work out then do so, any potential purchaser that is really willing to buy is worth thousands of those that haven't contacted you.

 

Highlight what's important to the buyer not you, what's important to you may not be to them and the other way round, they may just tell you or you can ask questions or pick up on what they say.

 

Personally I wouldn't have any personal stuff in the car for the sale photos, (again a clean engine bay and boot deck impresses many, shiny under the wheel arches might be a step too far though.  Any car stuff in the photos a buyer may expects and sales can be lost over silly little things particular with something as personal to many/some as a car, if the car mats or anything isn't going with the car don't include them in the photos to avoid confusion.  Plus it give you the opportunity if you want to throw such stuff in as a sweetener to swing the sale, silly little things can make as well as break a sale or make up for any other awkwardness.   Also remember you are selling the car not buying the buyer, you don't have particularly like them, don't be false but do be courteous, there are two parties to the deal you can walk away from it but so can they.

 

Oh, no, sorry I've no idea what's it's worth but if you want to sell it I'd suggest you don't hang about and get it advertised as soon and as widely as possible, don't forget locally too, but don't sell to anyone you know and never family as they always want something for nothing and blame you for all the mistreatment they give the car.

 

Good luck.

 

 

Cheers for the feedback, Nigel. The official advert will definitely not be like that. That's just for presenting honestly for valuation purposes etc.

 

Likewise for the photos, new ones of the emptier car will be taken before sale ad goes up. I'm in no rush for it to go as the replacement won't be ready for a little while. I've got a lot of time to put things right too.

 

I'll maybe provide a more detailed response in the morning to each individual point you've made here as it's rather late now.

unfortunately its worth what someone will pay for it...

but it should still be a good little bangernomics bus for someone.

 

have a look at some ads for cheap ones, and expensive listings and gauge yours for where it falls between the quality / age / price brackets.

 

 

1 hour ago, mac11irl said:

unfortunately its worth what someone will pay for it...

but it should still be a good little bangernomics bus for someone.

 

Pretty much. Ideal runaround/shopping car as well.

 

1 hour ago, mac11irl said:

have a look at some ads for cheap ones, and expensive listings and gauge yours for where it falls between the quality / age / price brackets.

 

I've been trying that but prices are all over the place. I'm aiming between £1,300/£1,400 I reckon.

Secondhand prices have gone crazy so you should be able to pocket a few bob.

24 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

Secondhand prices have gone crazy so you should be able to pocket a few bob.

 

Hoping so. Low mileage seems to be what would help it to sell as everyone seems to go "ermahgerd low mileage" these days regardless of how a car may have been looked after.

Prices have gone really crazy but if you're replacing the car with a higher priced car then you are not benefitting unless you get it below its present value.

 

Lease and extended lease cars have been returning, my neighbour collects them, there was a period where they didn't, the change of registration month is here soon, cost of living, home energy price rises, possible(?) interest rate increase  - you don't want to be buying or selling on the wrong sides of the changes.  Who knows lower priced cars may hold their values for a while as people look for cheaper cars but many will also be looking at increasing mpg because of the recently highlighted and high fuel prices even if the prices are coming down.  It could be 1974(?) all over again.  😄

24 minutes ago, nta16 said:

It could be 1974(?) all over again.  😄

 

Except it's more like 1976 but with terrible music...

My wife still listens to a lot of 70s pop music she says both years were good for music, but she wouldn't have a clue about today's pop music

 

'74 was the introduction of 60 and 50 mph speed limits to save petrol.

 

'76 was the long hot summer but being young I didn't really notice, I've no idea bout cars then as I was still too young to drive but you expected to get a reasonably decent old banger for about £100, and the cars were all old bangers then, even the newer or new ones.