Drivers door not locking

[Breezy_Pete]

Just now, okmate said:

think i may buy some hex self tapers lol what size you think pal ?

You'd need massive ones if you wanted to use the original holes, if you drill new holes you can use whatever size screws you like.

 

[okmate]

think your right pal, the plot thickens lol

[Breezy_Pete]

Ooh, very recent. 

That suggests the window regulator mech may have failed on the original panel, and the previous owner fitted a genuine new replacement. Possibly forgetting to re-connect the lock before rivetting  it on?  That would be a bad feeling. 😆

Edited 18 August, 2022 by Breezy_Pete
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[okmate]

I will go for that pete lol fingers crossed its just the case of plugging in lol

[okmate]

Hey guys ive had a go today, ive removed the door frame and glass and plugged the connector in to see if it works and hey presto central locking worked great,and the bad side the lock mechanism that that you pull up and down was broken, it connects onto a brass connection that looks like it engages to a cog,but its broken so its a new mechanism, hey how .

 

any idea what the part number is on this ?

[varooom]

I think 3B2 ending 016R

I not on laptop to check if this is correct, bang it into Google and see.

[Breezy_Pete]

Yep 3B2837016R

 

Do you mean the wire bit that the black plastic door pin sits on is the only broken bit? I'd be tempted to do without.

Edited 19 August, 2022 by Breezy_Pete

[okmate]

4 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

Yep 3B2837016R

 

Do you mean the wire bit that the black plastic door pin sits on is the only broken bit? I'd be tempted to do without.

No pete its the pull push mechanism thats snaped away from the main lock ive found a small spring in the door. i would assume the wire lock mechanism is complete on the door lock,this ones broken.

 

will have a search for the door lock on ebay,there seems to be loads off different vechicles that are fitted for this lock 

[okmate]

I put my car details in and it says itwont fit but its the correct part number ??

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164708399776?hash=item265962baa0%3Ag%3AwMgAAOSw-8th6AnC&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoHD3nfUL%2Bnv2kpc%2FWCxD3wEg0nsMPO0mXnqSEgOPDL%2FoAP7WCnuquCm%2FtTBXSuslgCsyrXxXCXiDjSJvVg3fIu6OlqFzSZKpMA%2BIWCzzzjO8wEWnbr8MYcxf6Pl3mjSt%2B8%2FbeUjPvHvowWM48vLR8nD3ivjkdiPtJwNxGkZmadgoYH6%2F4r8phAg5NX5FUEEjji9jNqn4PYL79Xaqjp0eBa0%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR9ius-nWYA&LH_ItemCondition=3

[Breezy_Pete]

When I click on that link it says "you bought this item" and I bought it for the missus's 2005 Fabia to swap out while I was replacing the regulator panel earlier this year, so I would say it's just their info about what cars it will fit that's wrong.

 

 

[Breezy_Pete]

Here's the parts list page where it's shown as the last item 1: door handle, exterior - Fabia(FAB) [EUROPA 2006 year] (7zap.com)

[okmate]

3 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

Here's the parts list page where it's shown as the last item 1: door handle, exterior - Fabia(FAB) [EUROPA 2006 year] (7zap.com)

That link also says transporter so must be the right part thanks pal will get this ordered

[okmate]

Oh forgot to mention,dont suppose you know what part number this would be ? it was held on by cable ties,cant seem to find the part as it wont highlight the number 4 any ideas

 

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2006-453/8/837-837000/

[Breezy_Pete]

Your top photo almost shows the part number I think? towards the top of the image, just a bit too unfocussed to read.

[okmate]

Well i had a look at the part and the new part does have a cut out in the top part so all the tension is on the small bit of steel when the handle is operated seems its a common problem so will add cable ties instead of forking out £30, tight arse i know

[Breezy_Pete]

Always more satisfying to repair rather than replace, in my opinion. 

[okmate]

Well guys after a loveley holiday to cypruss i was back out to fit the new lock,it was a bit of a mare trying to understand where the lock rod was fitted but after several times fitting the door plate back and forth i sussed it in the end,i tested it several times before actually closing the door and it works great,i just need to order the door card plastic connectors before fitting thanks again guys on to the next job 

[raky]

On 19/08/2022 at 15:56, Breezy_Pete said:

When I click on that link it says "you bought this item" and I bought it for the missus's 2005 Fabia to swap out while I was replacing the regulator panel earlier this year, so I would say it's just their info about what cars it will fit that's wrong.

 

 

I am also facing similar issue the seller sent me actuator  3b1837016bc but I think my old part was  3B2837016r same as okmate's. Everything seems work fine with wrong part as expected but only Bowden cable length is shorter by possibly 1-2 cm not sure why,  in okmate case possibly applying to much force may have broken the cable holder because of wrong part.My door was jammed because of excess pull on actuator unlock handle.  

Lesson learned ebay part compatibility  checker cannot be trusted.  

cheers   

raky

 

[raky]

On 19/08/2022 at 16:19, okmate said:

Oh forgot to mention,dont suppose you know what part number this would be ? it was held on by cable ties,cant seem to find the part as it wont highlight the number 4 any ideas

 

https://skoda.7zap.com/en/cz/fabia/fab/2006-453/8/837-837000/

 

Found the root cause of this issue , what happen when we remove actuator which has 2-3mm rubber gasket , this gasket never comes with original actuator sold on ebay so when we fit the new part without 2-3 mm gasket the cable length reduces hence as novice  we push hard the cable to fit in the holder which breaks  holder.. I had success when I ordered 3mm rubber part and made a gasket out fit on actuator cable nicely fitted and all  everything was smooth...  fyi @Breezy_Pete

 

Adhesive Backed Neoprene Rubber Sheet / Squares & Strips in all sizes

Thickness: 3mm

Size: 10 x 10cm

£2.45

Sold by: 

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Hop hit helps somebody.

 

cheers 

 

[TMB]

^ I don't get this. Where does this gasket go? I've never seen one on mine?

[Breezy_Pete]

He sent me this image in a PM when I asked same Lee:

[TMB]

^ Ah, cheers, Pete.

[raky]

 

fyi Lee @TMB

this is how they sell on ebay ... trade secret even my know mechanic was asking me how did i mange to refit again the new actuator he did not share me secret , when I tried to pull the cable it was not reaching so I did research and found that 2-3 mm is short which self cut  rubber seal  had filled the gap and all worked fine,  even I was also about to break the clip by forcibly trying to fit it.  cheers  

 

Edited 6 March, 2023 by raky

[raky]

On 12/10/2022 at 22:59, raky said:

I am also facing similar issue the seller sent me actuator  3b1837016bc but I think my old part was  3B2837016r same as okmate's. Everything seems work fine with wrong part as expected but only Bowden cable length is shorter by possibly 1-2 cm not sure why,  in okmate case possibly applying to much force may have broken the cable holder because of wrong part.My door was jammed because of excess pull on actuator unlock handle.  

Lesson learned ebay part compatibility  checker cannot be trusted.  

cheers   

raky

 

this was seal missing as mentioned in last message... No issue of compatibility both fitted and worked fine "3b1837016bc but I think my old part was  3B2837016r s"

[Breezy_Pete]

Found a part number for this gasket/seal a bit accidentally yesterday while researching a Polo lock part number, it appears also on some Skoda drawings.

 

Cheap (price shown is before VAT) but haven't actually spoken to a Skoda or VW dealer about availability. 

 

I've got some coming via ebay for the convenience but might just grab a few from local dealership if still available, for futureproofing reasons.