Hi All,

 

I hope that everyone is well.

 

I’ve got a question and if somebody is able to help with some advice that will be great.

 

I had an Octavia Mk II 2020 1.6 diesel and as well as the standard wheels I also had an additional set of steel wheels on which I had winter tyres fitted.  I’ve now sold that car and have replaced it with a Mk III Superb 1.5 petrol.  

 

What I’m wondering is how can I figure out whether or not the wheels with the winter tyres that I used on the Octavia could be used on the Superb or not.  I’m wondering whether different sizes of wheels and maybe even different disc brake sizes for example could cause issues?

 

The steel wheels that I used on the Octavia has winter tyres on and the tyre size is 205/55 R16 H.

 

On the Superb the size of the tyres that came with the car are 215/55 R17.

 

If there is a way to work out whether the wheels & winter tyres that I used on the Octavia are compatible with the Superb that will be great.

 

Many thanks to anybody who can help!

 

Cheers, John

 

 

The Octavia MK2 uses 205/55R16 tyres fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET50 rims.

 

The Octavia MK3 uses 205/55R16 tyres fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET46 rims.

 

The Superb MK3 uses 215/60R16 tyres fitted to 6.5Jx16 ET41 rims.

 

Outside diameter

205/55R16 631.9mm

215/60R16 664.4mm

 

Therefore, 215/60R16 has an outside diameter 5.1% bigger than 205/55R16. So if you use 205/55R16 instead of 215/60R16, the outside diameter of the tyres will be too small.

Check wheel-size dot com the wheel/tyre size calculator ... put the details in and it will tell you the rolling circumference/speed diff/speedo mis-read etc, etc ... make your mind up from there.

Hi Carlston,

 

Thanks for your message and for the information.  Did this relate to if I was just using the Octavia's 205/55 R16 H tyres and trying to put them on the Superb's rims?    If so my apologies as I should have explained myself better.  When I had the Octavia I had the standard alloy wheels that the car came with and every winter I used to take the alloy wheels with tyres still on completely off the car.  and store them.  Then I'd put on the other set of steel wheels that I had which had the winter tyres on.

 

Therefore when I sold the Octavia I still have the spare set of steel wheels with the 205/55 R16 H winter tyres fitted on them.

 

So my intention, if they'd fit, would be to again in winter take the Superb's alloy wheels & fitted tyres completely off the car and replace them with the steel wheels that have the winter tyres fitted on them.

 

 

Hi TruckbusUK,

 

Thanks for your message and I'll take a look at that website.  From what you've said I'm assuming therefore that there could be potential knockon issues for the car calaulating speed & distance correctly if I use a different sized wheel tyre.

 

I'm wondering how places where the fitting of winter tyres is compulsory handle this becuase do they always just use the same rim and replace just the normal tyre with a winter one or if changing the entire wheel do they have to try and ensure that the replacemrnt whee/ & tyre is of the same size as the one removed?

 

Thanks again for the help!

 

Cheers,

 

John

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Truckbus UK,

 

So if I look at the wheel size.com website ( https://www.wheel-size.com/size/skoda/superb/2022/#trim-15-tsi-eudm-148  ) if it says the following are these the only Tyre and Rim sizes that I can use on my Superb?

 

Tire	Rim
205/60R16 92V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/60R16 95V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	6.5Jx17 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	7Jx17 ET40	2.3 / 2.1
235/45R18 94W	8Jx18 ET44	2.4 / 2.2
235/40R19 96W	8Jx19 ET44	2.4 / 2.2

 

 

I'm guessing (but I could be wrong) that perhaps the snowflake means a reference to winter tyres.

 

Also I can look at my tyres and check the size but I've no idea what size my steel rims are and is there anyway to find this out or do you have to measure them?  Or should there be somewhere on the rim itself where this is written?

 

Many thanks,

 

John

 

 

 

 

Also this follows on from the info that Carlston reference but I've just looked at the info on the wheel-size website for the 2012 Octavia 1.6 diesel versus the Superb 1.5 petrol and it shows the following:-

 

For the Octavia:-

 

Skoda Octavia 2012 1.6TDI

– Generation: Mk2 A5 (1Z) [2005 .. 2012]

– Power: 103 hp | 77 kW | 105 PS

– Engine: 1.6L, I4, Diesel

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm

– PCD: 5x112

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts

– Wheel Tightening Torque: unknown

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5

– Trim Production: [2009 .. 2012]

Tire	Rim
195/65R15 92H	6Jx15 ET47	2.1
205/60R15 92H	6.5Jx15 ET50	2.1
205/55R16 91H	6.5Jx16 ET50	2.3
225/45ZR17 91W	7Jx17 ET54	2.5

 

 

And for the Superb:-

 

Skoda Superb 2022 1.5 TSI

– Generation: III B8 (3V) Facelift [2019 .. 2023]

– Market: EUDM

– Power: 148 hp | 110 kW | 150 PS

– Engine: 1.5L, I4, Petrol

– Options: Active, Ambition, Style, SE, SE L, SportLine, SportLine Plus, L&K, Executive, Business

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm

– PCD: 5x112

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts

– Wheel Tightening Torque: unknown

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5

– Trim Production: [2019 .. 2022]

Tire	Rim
205/60R16 92V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/60R16 95V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	6.5Jx17 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	7Jx17 ET40	2.3 / 2.1
235/45R18 94W	8Jx18 ET44	2.4 / 2.2
235/40R19 96W	8Jx19 ET44	2.4 / 2.2

 

 

 

 

Hi, use this section of the site https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/, 

a diff or a couple of mm (=/- 10mm) will make very little difference on the rolling circumference and as a knock on little diff to the speedo reading info.

Similarly a difference offset (ET) of a couple of mm will make little difference. to the spacing of the tyre in the wheel well.

 

Your existing wheels will have all the info stamped on the wheel, usually around the hub or on the back face somewhere, so you can just type it in to the calculator.

 

The snowflake is indeed indicating winter tyres.

2 hours ago, John-S said:

Thanks for your message and for the information.  Did this relate to if I was just using the Octavia's 205/55 R16 H tyres and trying to put them on the Superb's rims?    If so my apologies as I should have explained myself better.  When I had the Octavia I had the standard alloy wheels that the car came with and every winter I used to take the alloy wheels with tyres still on completely off the car.  and store them.  Then I'd put on the other set of steel wheels that I had which had the winter tyres on.

 

Therefore when I sold the Octavia I still have the spare set of steel wheels with the 205/55 R16 H winter tyres fitted on them.

 

So my intention, if they'd fit, would be to again in winter take the Superb's alloy wheels & fitted tyres completely off the car and replace them with the steel wheels that have the winter tyres fitted on them.

 

The outside diameter of 205/55R16 is too small for the Superb MK3.

 

Have you considered using all-season tyres all year round, such as Michelin CrossClimate 2 ?

 

Edited 30 September, 20223 yr by Carlston

@John-S You will find the rims will physically fit (they use the same bolt hole spacing and centre bore, however the ET should be nearer 41 on the Superb (this is a centre line offset and determines how far out a wheel is), 9mm from 50 to 41 is tolerable but a few mm more different than optimum

 

For the tyres the Superb is a bigger car and needs the bigger diameter overall. The Octavia mk2 205/55 R16 which have outside diameter of 632mm.  But the Superb mk3 should have wheels of about 668mm.  A few mm difference doesn’t matter (tread wear changes it few mm), but 36mm (5.4%) is too much (and car would be 18mm lower).   If your tyres have a weight rating of 91 could also be in trouble as lowest certified rating for Superb is 92 

 

So really would be better advertising and selling the existing set and buying replacements.
I think (but I haven’t checked clearances) could keep existing rims, but change the tyres to 215/60 R16 95V tyres 

 

 

 

I have put mark 2 2005 vega wheels on the superb tyres size 205/55/16. the superb runs on 18” wheels. The spare is a 205/55/16 also. They fit fine because it’s not a V6 with big brakes. The only thing is, they look silly because of the offset business, superb wheels stick out more so fill the arches better.  Picking the right wheels if in the market is therefore key 

11 hours ago, TruckbusUK said:

Hi, use this section of the site https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/, 

a diff or a couple of mm (=/- 10mm) will make very little difference on the rolling circumference and as a knock on little diff to the speedo reading info.

Similarly a difference offset (ET) of a couple of mm will make little difference. to the spacing of the tyre in the wheel well.

 

Your existing wheels will have all the info stamped on the wheel, usually around the hub or on the back face somewhere, so you can just type it in to the calculator.

 

The snowflake is indeed indicating winter tyres.

 

 

Hi TruckbusUK,

 

Thanks for the link and I used that calculator to compare the current Superb tyres of 215/55 R17 to my spare set of Octavia Winter tyres of 205/55 R16 H.  I'm not sure if the link to the results will work but I'll try to post & share it below:-

 

https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=215-55-17X7ET40&wheel2=205-55-16X6.5ET50&fcl=50mm&wcl=30mm&scl=50mm&sr=0mm

 

There were some positives and some negatives but I was going to ask what are real safety concerns & deal breakers in that it definitely shouldn't be done and what was more of a cosmetic & asthetic issue in terms of how the car looks.

 

But I think that some of the additional posts have sort of superseeded those thoughts because the feeling seems to be not to use the Octavia winter tyres on the Superb.  What I will need to do is check my spare rims and see if I can locate the size of the rims to see if bigger tyres could be fitted on the existing rims I think.

 

Thanks again for all the help and advice!

 

John

 

Hi Carlston, SurreyJohn and gav_is_con,

 

Thanks for your advice!

 

I think that I will now sell the previous Octavia steel sheels and winter tyres as at least that can offset the cost of any new ones.  I could look at some all season tyres but when I had the Octavia I found that having the winter tyres on a spare set of steel wheels putting them on in the late autumn and then swapping back in spring worked okay for me and tyre wear was spread evenly over the two plus I always had a spare (the Octavia didn't come with a spare wheel and neither did the Superb).

 

If I do go down the route of getting a new set of spare rims with winter tyres fitted given everything that has been said about issues of fitting smaller tyres and rims compared to what the car comes with should this influence what new winter tyres I buy if I go for some again and switch wheels/ tyres as I used to with my previous Octavia?

 

For example the table below says that I could get a 205/60 R16 tyre.  But given that I'd be removing 215/55 R17 tyres should I only be looking to replace with 215/55 R17 winter tyres?

 

I'm just wondering because I think that if I am going to buy new steel rims with winter tyres on it will be chealer to buy a new set of steel wheels in 6.5Jx16 ET41 with 205/60 R16 tyres on them as opposed to buying a new set of steel 7Jx17 ET40 rims with 215/55 R17 winter tyres.

 

Thanks again for all the help and advice!

 

Cheers, John

 

koda Superb 2022 1.5 TSI

– Generation: III B8 (3V) Facelift [2019 .. 2023]

– Market: EUDM

– Power: 148 hp | 110 kW | 150 PS

– Engine: 1.5L, I4, Petrol

– Options: Active, Ambition, Style, SE, SE L, SportLine, SportLine Plus, L&K, Executive, Business

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm

– PCD: 5x112

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts

– Wheel Tightening Torque: unknown

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5

– Trim Production: [2019 .. 2022]

Tire	Rim
205/60R16 92V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/60R16 95V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	6.5Jx17 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	7Jx17 ET40	2.3 / 2.1
235/45R18 94W	8Jx18 ET44	2.4 / 2.2
235/40R19 96W	8Jx19 ET44	2.4 / 2.2

 

 

 

TBH, Bridgestone, Goodyear and Nokian (I've used them all) do excellent all-season tyres, slightly softer sidewalls than summer tyres so they work better in cold weather. IMO you would probably be better off selling what you have from the Octy, and putting all season boots (unless you really need full winters) on the Superbs original wheels unless they are diamond cut, in which case get a big, big loan to get them refurb'd every couple of years, esp as diamond cut are eye watering to refurb IME.

 

🤪

BRISKODA.  Adverts.

Cheap to sell just need to get Freedom Light, and good for Wheels & Tyres for sale, usually by BRISKODA Members / Skoda enthusiasts. 

11 hours ago, John-S said:

I think that I will now sell the previous Octavia steel sheels and winter tyres as at least that can offset the cost of any new ones.  I could look at some all season tyres but when I had the Octavia I found that having the winter tyres on a spare set of steel wheels putting them on in the late autumn and then swapping back in spring worked okay for me and tyre wear was spread evenly over the two plus I always had a spare (the Octavia didn't come with a spare wheel and neither did the Superb).

 

If I do go down the route of getting a new set of spare rims with winter tyres fitted given everything that has been said about issues of fitting smaller tyres and rims compared to what the car comes with should this influence what new winter tyres I buy if I go for some again and switch wheels/ tyres as I used to with my previous Octavia?

 

For example the table below says that I could get a 205/60 R16 tyre.  But given that I'd be removing 215/55 R17 tyres should I only be looking to replace with 215/55 R17 winter tyres?

 

I'm just wondering because I think that if I am going to buy new steel rims with winter tyres on it will be chealer to buy a new set of steel wheels in 6.5Jx16 ET41 with 205/60 R16 tyres on them as opposed to buying a new set of steel 7Jx17 ET40 rims with 215/55 R17 winter tyres.

 

koda Superb 2022 1.5 TSI

– Generation: III B8 (3V) Facelift [2019 .. 2023]

– Market: EUDM

– Power: 148 hp | 110 kW | 150 PS

– Engine: 1.5L, I4, Petrol

– Options: Active, Ambition, Style, SE, SE L, SportLine, SportLine Plus, L&K, Executive, Business

– Center Bore: 57.1 mm

– PCD: 5x112

– Wheel Fasteners: Lug bolts

– Wheel Tightening Torque: unknown

– Thread Size: M14 x 1.5

– Trim Production: [2019 .. 2022]

Tire	Rim
205/60R16 92V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/60R16 95V	6.5Jx16 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	6.5Jx17 ET41	2.3 / 2.1
215/55R17 94V	7Jx17 ET40	2.3 / 2.1
235/45R18 94W	8Jx18 ET44	2.4 / 2.2
235/40R19 96W	8Jx19 ET44	2.4 / 2.2

 

 

205/60R16 are slightly undersize on the Superb MK3. One of the owner's manuals only mentioned 215/60R16 and 215/55R17 tyre sizes for use with snow chains.

 

215/55R17 tyres have an outside diameter 2.4% bigger than 205/60R16.

 

wheel-size.com do often make mistakes, so do check your owner's manual.

 

Edited 1 October, 20223 yr by Carlston

I use octavia pictoris alloys on my superb with the correct size tyres but because the offset is different I use a 12mm spacer. Tyres are nexen winguard sport 2

@John-S here is the link to Skoda wheels catalogue, might be worth looking at the Superb section, then trying each of the names on an online Google shopping search (other brands available), or e bay etc.   Might find something at a good price.

 

https://www.skoda.co.uk/_doc/639a0118-4da5-446b-a786-86e1f789b57b
 

references to III or IV are mark 3 or mark 4 (do not confuse with hybrids)