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Sportline. Has anyone swapped their 19" wheels to 18"s or 17"s

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As the title says. I know the 19",s wheels are surprisingly comfortable for their size but would like to know if there would be a huge difference in comfort dropping down to either 18,s or 17,s to justify the ££££,s outlay. Any imfo from someone who,s tried it would be very welcome

It’s easy.

 

I run 19” summer tyres and 17” winter tyres on my Kodiaq and I’m sure you can select appropriate 17, 18 or 19 as needed.


Compare the Skoda brochure wheel sizes for all the vehicles and you’ll get an idea.

 

As long as overall diameters are close then your speedo will be good enough.

 

I’ve used this site to check sizes. There are others.

 

https://www.willtheyfit.com/wheels/

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39 minutes ago, BoxerBoy said:

It’s easy.

 

I run 19” summer tyres and 17” winter tyres on my Kodiaq and I’m sure you can select appropriate 17, 18 or 19 as needed.


Compare the Skoda brochure wheel sizes for all the vehicles and you’ll get an idea.

 

As long as overall diameters are close then your speedo will be good enough.

 

I’ve used this site to check sizes. There are others.

 

https://www.willtheyfit.com/wheels/

Is there a big difference in comfort quality  dropping from 19 to 17,s ?

2 hours ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

As the title says. I know the 19",s wheels are surprisingly comfortable for their size but would like to know if there would be a huge difference in comfort dropping down to either 18,s or 17,s to justify the ££££,s outlay. Any imfo from someone who,s tried it would be very welcome

 

The Karoq 4WD size tyres are more comfortable than the Karoq 2WD size tyres because they are bigger, ie. 225/60R16 instead of 215/60R16, 225/55R17 instead of 215/55R17, 225/50R18 instead of 225/45R18, etc.

 

Take a look at the alloy rim sizes on "skoda eshop cz"

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/hlinikove-disky/c/alloyWheels?sort=priceAsc&q=%3AscoreDesc%3AcarType%3AKaroq%2B%282017%2B%29&show=Page#

 

You will see from the above link that the standard Karoq rim sizes are:

225/60R16 6Jx16 ET43 very comfortable

225/55R17 7Jx17 ET45 quite comfortable

225/50R18 7Jx18 ET45 not so comfortable

225/45R19 8Jx19 ET45 uncomfortable

 

If you are interested in ride comfort avoid the 19" option.

 

For best steering precision the 6Jx16 ET43 rim is a bit narrow for the relatively wide 225/60R16 tyre size but does improve ride comfort. Perhaps look at a wider 7Jx16 ET45 rim (from the Superb MK2 and Yeti) for the Karoq 4WD 225/60R16 tyre option.

 

225/55R17 and 225/50R18 fitted to 7J rims will be far more comfortable than 225/45R19 fitted to relatively wide 8J rims. 

35 minutes ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

Is there a big difference in comfort quality  dropping from 19 to 17's ?

 

BoxerBoy has a Kodiaq which have bigger outside diameter tyres. For example, 215/65R17 tyres on the Kodiaq have much bigger sidewalls than 215/55R17 tyres on the 2WD Karoq or even the 225/55R17 tyres on the 4WD Karoq.

 

The Kodiaq is also a bigger car than the Karoq, so it's like comparing a Superb MK3 with an Octavia MK3, ie. it's not a direct comparison.

 

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20 minutes ago, Carlston said:

 

The Karoq 4WD size tyres are more comfortable than the Karoq 2WD size tyres because they are bigger, ie. 225/60R16 instead of 215/60R16, 225/55R17 instead of 215/55R17, 225/50R18 instead of 225/45R18, etc.

 

Take a look at the alloy rim sizes on "skoda eshop cz"

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/hlinikove-disky/c/alloyWheels?sort=priceAsc&q=%3AscoreDesc%3AcarType%3AKaroq%2B%282017%2B%29&show=Page#

 

You will see from the above link that the standard Karoq rim sizes are:

225/60R16 6Jx16 ET43 very comfortable

225/55R17 7Jx17 ET45 quite comfortable

225/50R18 7Jx18 ET45 not so comfortable

225/45R19 8Jx19 ET45 uncomfortable

 

If you are interested in ride comfort avoid the 19" option.

 

For best steering precision the 6Jx16 ET43 rim is a bit narrow for the relatively wide 225/60R16 tyre size but does improve ride comfort. Perhaps look at a wider 7Jx16 ET45 rim (from the Superb MK2 and Yeti) for the Karoq 4WD 225/60R16 tyre option.

 

225/55R17 and 225/50R18 fitted to 7J rims will be far more comfortable than 225/45R19 fitted to relatively wide 8J rims. 

Thanks for that Carlston i,ll have to read through it a few times to get my head around the numbers but i think that will answer my question

 

20 hours ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

Is there a big difference in comfort quality  dropping from 19 to 17,s ?


comfort quality is subjective.

 

I can notice a big difference when rolling on higher sidewall 17s compared with 19s. The higher sidewalls are pretty flexible in comparison. 

 

The 19s are not firm like low profile cars with hardly any sidewall to take the bumps and potholes that are on most of today’s roads.  Heaven help those running on 20 or 21 inch rims.  Plus the ££££ for bigger tyres.

 

My bonus is the DCC suspension that lets me Pik N Mix between 3 suspension settings when added to the 19” summer tyres (shallower sidewalls) and the 17” winter tyres (higher sidewalls).

 

I flip flop drive modes and suspension frequently on every journey.  M-way, speed bump roads, country roads, passengers, my mood - all influence my choices.

20 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

BoxerBoy has a Kodiaq which have bigger outside diameter tyres. For example, 215/65R17 tyres on the Kodiaq have much bigger sidewalls than 215/55R17 tyres on the 2WD Karoq or even the 225/55R17 tyres on the 4WD Karoq.

 

The Kodiaq is also a bigger car than the Karoq, so it's like comparing a Superb MK3 with an Octavia MK3, ie. it's not a direct comparison.

 


The basic principles of selecting different wheel sizes remains the same for any car.

 

Diameter, width, ET offset and tyre profile of course have to be selected with care to ensure a suitable fitting for the vehicle in question.

I ride on 18s in the summer (stock wheels that came with my sportline) and on 17s in the winter

 

I notice a difference in ride comfort when switching between the two (softer ride on 17" . bumps arent as pronounced as on 18" wheels)

 

Since I value comfort over aesthetics, I would never go with 19" wheels..

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1 hour ago, Fux said:

I ride on 18s in the summer (stock wheels that came with my sportline) and on 17s in the winter

 

I notice a difference in ride comfort when switching between the two (softer ride on 17" . bumps arent as pronounced as on 18" wheels)

 

Since I value comfort over aesthetics, I would never go with 19" wheels..

I am having a bit of a job getting hold of a set of secondhand 17 rims. I have even looked for steel rims on mytyres but they only do 16,s which i think would probably look too small. Buying new is a bit out of my price ££££ range what with the cost of 4 tyres as well

I use those steel 16” on mine, look fine. Don’t forget the outside dia is the same. Dont forget that winter wheels are specified to use 16” on car.jjOJjkSDQQGFDLxyeaHX6w.thumb.jpg.a239be15b2c708ca0e7620e5aefd883d.jpg

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My sons old Karoq on its 16” winter wheels

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10 hours ago, Fux said:

I ride on 18s in the summer (stock wheels that came with my sportline) and on 17s in the winter

 

I notice a difference in ride comfort when switching between the two (softer ride on 17" . bumps arent as pronounced as on 18" wheels)

 

Since I value comfort over aesthetics, I would never go with 19" wheels..

Reading into your post Fux about  comfort over aesthetics, the 18,s must tick all your boxes or you would stay on the 17s,

12 hours ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

I am having a bit of a job getting hold of a set of secondhand 17 rims. I have even looked for steel rims on mytyres but they only do 16,s which i think would probably look too small. Buying new is a bit out of my price ££££ range what with the cost of 4 tyres as well

 

The 6.5Jx17 ET38 steel rim from the Kodiaq would fit the Karoq. The offset is only 7mm different, and would move the centre of the tyre 7mm further outwards within the wheelarch compared to the standard 7Jx17 ET45 Karoq rim.

 

6.5Jx17 ET38 5/112 57.1 steel rim

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=672860434273997936&rimCode=ALCAR9021

 

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11 hours ago, Carlston said:

 

The 6.5Jx17 ET38 steel rim from the Kodiaq would fit the Karoq. The offset is only 7mm different, and would move the centre of the tyre 7mm further outwards within the wheelarch compared to the standard 7Jx17 ET45 Karoq rim.

 

6.5Jx17 ET38 5/112 57.1 steel rim

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=672860434273997936&rimCode=ALCAR9021

 

I have limited tyre/wheel knowledge but with them rims and the 215/65/r17 Kodiaq tyres it seems the sensible way to go to me, unless anyone knows different .

 

215/65 r17 tyres are 43mm larger in diameter than the recommended 215/55 r17 tyres suitable for the Karoq, and will cause speedometer error.

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A big thank you to everyone thats taken the time to post. I find it very humbling how you have all just chipped in to help me out with all your knowledge and good advice 👍

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16 minutes ago, Kenny R said:

215/65 r17 tyres are 43mm larger in diameter than the recommended 215/55 r17 tyres suitable for the Karoq, and will cause speedometer error.

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I have 225/45/R19 on at the moment and if i put the 215/65/R17 on it calculates to : Reading at 30mph will be 28.89 and at 60 will be 57.79mph which is not too bad. Better a bit under than over i think

 

 

30 minutes ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

I have 225/45/R19 on at the moment and if i put the 215/65/R17 on it calculates to : Reading at 30mph will be 28.89 and at 60 will be 57.79mph which is not too bad. Better a bit under than over i think

 

 

 

Bear in mind that this is, in theory, illegal. A speedo can legally read high, can't remember by how much, but must not read low.

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1 hour ago, Routemaster1461 said:

 

Bear in mind that this is, in theory, illegal. A speedo can legally read high, can't remember by how much, but must not read low.

Bugga, just when i had made my mind up i,me back to square One again 😀.

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16” with correct tyres work well and probably more choice and cheaper.

Plenty of options at 16” for rims and bonus is this is the specified winter wheel size for Karoq so no warranty or insurance issues.

Mine are slightly more conservative on speedo compared to standard 19” by a couple of mph at 70, which is on the safe side.

Dont forget to tell insurance company. Some charge more as cars with winter tyres fitted may be used in worse weather and be at more risk of damage. Others are ok with it as long as declared.

This is stupid though as some European countries require winter tyres to be fitted during certain periods of the year. This country would be much safer if we all had to have them fitted as well.

My experience with 4x4 cars and winter tyres is that I can manage the conditions even when quite poor, yet the road gets blocked by other cars and particularly articulated lorries which can’t!

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2 hours ago, Routemaster1461 said:

Bear in mind that this is, in theory, illegal. A speedo can legally read high, can't remember by how much, but must not read low.

 

That binds the car maker.
The car owner must only stick to the rim & tyre sizes listed in the homologation certificate regardless of the small speedo reading variations between them.

Non-listed rim & tyre sizes are illegal, speedo reading error probably not being the primary reason for the ban.

 

 

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9 hours ago, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

I have limited tyre/wheel knowledge but with them rims and the 215/65/r17 Kodiaq tyres it seems the sensible way to go to me, unless anyone knows different .

 

Like others have said, the outside diameter of the Kodiaq 215/65R17 tyre size is too big for the Karoq 4x4.

 

If you want 17" tyres rather than 16" tyres, then 215/60R17 would be a good option rather than the standard Karoq 4x4 225/55R17 especially if you are going to use the 6.5Jx17 ET38 Kodiaq rims on the Karoq 4x4.

 

215/60R17 is a common tyre size and cheaper than all of the Karoq 4x4 225/60R16, 225/55R17, 225/50R18, and 225/45R19 tyre sizes.

 

The outside diameter of 215/60R17 is very close to your current 225/45R19 tyre size.

 

Michelin CrossClimate 2 215/60R17 96H

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s8016p208542/Michelin_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Michelin_Cross_Climate_2_-_215_60_R17_96H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

You can see in the chart below, that a 6.5J rim width is ideal for a 215/60R17 tyre size, hence it's highlighted in bold.

 

ETRTO approved rim widths

215/60 6.0-6.5-7.5

 

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On 25/10/2022 at 11:22, JEFF-the-Bowman said:

I have limited tyre/wheel knowledge but with them rims and the 215/65/r17 Kodiaq tyres it seems the sensible way to go to me, unless anyone knows different .

 

The wheel bolts used with all Skoda cars with 5 wheel bolts are the same. So you can use Karoq wheel bolts with Kodiaq rims.

 

M14x1.5x27 wheel bolts WHT001812

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