Can anyone recommend any good all-season tyres for a mk3 Octavia VRS on 19" extremes? I can't seem to find any at all in 225/35/19!

Welcome.

You are going to stuggle to find much or choices in the UK.

Camskill have a choice of one.

 

Maybe someone will know of some. maybe @Carlston

 

 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by roottoot

Yes, I'd seen those, I wanted some CrossClimates but they're only available in 235/35 R19 and I'm not clued up enough on fitment to know if that's ok or not. Annoyingly I only need all-season tyres so I can go to Germany for a single trip, otherwise summer tyres are fine in the south. Irritating that the wheels are an odd width limiting tyre choice (and increasing price!)

I've used maxxis all season tyres & their summer performance tyres within the past, found both good & had decent longevity. I'm new to Skoda, but generally speaking an all season tyre would give you good all year round performance, you'd never gain extreme levels of performance from one during the summer months, compared to the best summer tyre available, well within my experience, anyway. With my particular type of driving style, I'd be happy to settle for good all year round performance levels from my tyres. I've also in the past ran with two sets of tyres, winter & summer. As I live up north & can experience harsh winters.

I have summer tyres fitted to my Skoda right now, but have narrow tyres fitted (relatively speaking), plenty of tyre choice, too. So when I come to replace mine I'll also be putting on all season tyres. When I had the Maxxis all season tyres fitted to a different car they were the Ap2's, happy enough with those for all year round use & from memory I think they also had 9mm of tread from new, which was surprisingly good news . Not sure about the tread depth on the AP'3's from new though. I'd be happy to use either. 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by Phoenixboy

Location location location regarding using Maxxis AP2 all year & then sizes & vehicle will be relevant.

 

Maybe the AP3 are a different kettle of fish. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/382657-maxxis-ap2-all-season-tyres

 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by roottoot

I managed to find some 18" wheels with decent winter tyres so going that way instead. Works out a lot cheaper than a full set of all-weather tyres anyway, and this way I don't need to compromise during the summer months. Would be nice to have a better (and cheaper) selection of tyres available though!

I'm not trying to be deliberately unhelpful, but my answer to the initial question, is no.

 

Looking at tyrecompare (https://www.tyrecomp.co.uk/car-tyres/225-35-r19.htm) there is very little choice in that size - as close to no choice as I remember seeing.

 

I'm currently running Hancook AS2s, in 225/40/18s and I am quite happy with them. The car was initially on 205s, but I wanted all seasons, because there are some circumstances under which I have to make journeys, and I don't have the option of waiting for the weather to get better. Knowing that you give away a little grip in changing from 'Summers' to 'All seasons' my solution was to put a bit more rubber on the road, and that part seems to have worked well.

 

The Hankooks are a bit noisier than the best summer tyre would be, but I'm prepared to live with that. One thing that did surprise me was how good the Hankooks are with respect to wear (I'd guess the same would be true of Michelins, but generally these are not the soft rubber /high wear tyres that I was slightly expecting).

 

 Habitually, I would have used summer tyres and had to change fronts after slightly more than a year. I'm currently on about 20 months, and the fronts are probably a shade over half worn.

 

In an ideal world, I'd have put 17's on rather than 18s, and had a bit more comfort (it isn't bad,but that would have been ideal) but I couldn't find the wheels cheaply.

 

HTH

Jumping into this thread

Looking to change my tyres on my 2017 Octavia Scout. Current 225 / 50 R 17.

 

Looking for something that grip on rough mountain type paths & mud. Not bothered about keeping the speeds down on the motorway so speed ratings & noise are secondary.

 

I have bought Continental tyres of all sizes etc for decades, but anyone here make different recommendation?

 

Thanks

These perform OK if you are not wanting to go to All Terrains.

If you do want All Terrains the size you have is an awkward one. 

 

 There is a thread on robust tyres for a Scout.  It is in the tyre section and i have bumped it for you. 

 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by roottoot

2 hours ago, roottoot said:

Location location location regarding using Maxxis AP2 all year & then sizes & vehicle will be relevant.

 

Maybe the AP3 are a different kettle of fish. 

http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/382657-maxxis-ap2-all-season-tyres

 

I ran a set of AP2's for a couple of years on narrower tyres, 205 55 16's. They performed very well all year round, I live high up within a valley, so we do have deep snow at times. Main reason I used to run with a set of winters & summers, until I found it physically difficult to keep swapping wheels & tyres around on an yearly basis. 

I also like the look of the tread pattern on the AP3's, although I can't vouch for their performance. 

So within my opinion all season tyres were a good compromise. 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by Phoenixboy

1 hour ago, DibDibScout said:

Jumping into this thread

Looking to change my tyres on my 2017 Octavia Scout. Current 225 / 50 R 17.

 

Looking for something that grip on rough mountain type paths & mud. Not bothered about keeping the speeds down on the motorway so speed ratings & noise are secondary.

 

I have bought Continental tyres of all sizes etc for decades, but anyone here make different recommendation?

 

Thanks

Maxxis AP2's are decent, if you could get them within your size & they come with 9mm of tread from new, bonus. 

I was running my 8 mm when new tread Michelin Alpin 6 till last week and they did very well for almost 2 years till i i got a bulge and a tear.

I was going to put on BF Goodrich G-Force winter 2 but i would have had to wait so put on Riken Winters & the 9mm tread seamed like they would be fine.

They were great on flooded roads last week but they are going to have to come off until the snow comes as they have killed the range on my electric car. 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by roottoot

2 hours ago, roottoot said:

I was running my 8 mm when new tread Michelin Alpin 6 till last week and they did very well for almost 2 years till i i got a bulge and a tear.

I was going to put on BF Goodrich G-Force winter 2 but i would have had to wait so put on Riken Winters & the 9mm tread seamed like they would be fine.

They were great on flooded roads last week but they are going to have to come off until the snow comes as they have killed the range on my electric car. 

I think "Riken", are Michelins budget brand, unofficially. I've also used those as winter tyres within the past when I was running with two sets, worked perfectly well for winter usage.

Some Octavia MK3 VRS owners have fitted 235/35R19 tyres to their 7.5Jx19 ET51 X-TREM rims, instead of the standard 225/35R19 size.

 

235/35R19 is a more common tyre size.

 

However, ETRTO recommends at least an 8J rim for the 235/35R19 tyre size as shown in the chart below.

 

ETRTO approved rim widths for passenger car tyres

225/35 7.5-8.0-9.0
235/35 8.0-8.5-9.5

 

Michelin CrossClimate 2 235/35R19 91Y XL

https://www.blackcircles.com/catalogue/michelin/crossclimate-2/235/35/R19/Y/91/m?tyre=42847916

 

225/35R19 or 235/35R19 don't have much sidewall height, so there's a much greater risk of tyre and rim damage when driving over potholes. In the winter when there is snow and flooding, you might not see a pothole. Even in the summer, when driving at speed and in the dark you might not see a pothole soon enough to avoid it.

 

If you want cheap but good winter wheels, maybe consider 6.5Jx17 ET38 steel rims from the Kodiaq fitted with 205/50R17 winter tyres. The Continental WinterContact TS870P have done really well in the latest tyre reviews. Good winter tyres don't just work well below freezing, but below about 7 degrees Centigrade they will start to outperform summer tyres.

 

6.5Jx17 ET38 5/112 57.1 steel rims (from the Kodiaq)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=672860434273997936&rimCode=ALCAR9021

 

Continental WinterContact TS870P 205/50R17 93V XL

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m97b0s635p214354/Continental_Tyres_Winter_Snow_Car_Continental_Conti_Winter_Contact_TS_870P_-_205_50_R17_93V_XL_FR_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Edited 10 November, 20223 yr by Carlston

For the Octavia MK3 Scout, you could use 215/60R16 tyres and 6Jx16 ET43 rims from the Karoq.

 

AT (All-Terrain) tyres are available in the 215/60R16 tyres size.

 

AT tyres work better in the mud than normal tyres, but don't work as well in other conditions. However, tyres are always a compromise. If normal tyres are going to leave you stuck in the mud, then AT tyres could be a good idea.

 

6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 steel rims (from the Karoq)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=1302234084152546416&rimCode=ALCAR6665

 

Yokohama G015 Geolander AT 215/60R16 95H

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m62b0s111p164244/Yokohama_Tyres_Car_Yokohama_G015_Geolander_AT_Yokohama_G_015_-_215_60_R16_95H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB

 

Another tyre and rim size option could be 205/70R15 tyres fitted to 6Jx15 ET43 rims. 15" tyres and rims will only clear the front brake calipers if the front discs aren't bigger than 288mm diameter. The Octavia MK3 might not use front discs bigger than 288mm if the engine power is no more than 150HP, but it's worth checking or measuring the diameter of the front brake discs to be sure.

 

6Jx15 ET43 5/112 57.1 steel rims (from the Octavia MK3)

https://www.mytyres.co.uk/rims/details?vehicleId=502374559312254064&rimCode=ALCAR7755

 

Yokohama G015 Geolander AT 205/70R15 96H

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m53b0s2481p148166/Yokohama_Tyres_Car_Yokohama_G015_Geolander_AT_Yokohama_G_015_-_205_70_R15_96H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_E_Wet_Grip%3A_C_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

Edited 11 November, 20223 yr by Carlston

You can use 16" rims on 312 mm breaks - they are just few mm close to the break calipers, but they fit so it's worth checking. I assume it depends on the rims. OP is with VRS where there is a version with 340mm front breaks on Pre-FLs, I believe. There you can fit only 17" and above, for sure.

 

I'm using old rims from Superb(Mk2?) on which I put brand new Pirelli Sottozero 215/60/16 (Yeti/Karoq tire size). The price was very good compared to the prices for 225/50/17 which is the OEM tire size of the Scout.

 

So a set of old 16"s from eBay or forum with winter tires is also an option, it really depends on how often would you need them. We have a winter here(or we used to have actually 😕 ).

 

For the all-seasons I've heard only good things about CrossClimates and Goodyear's Vectors, but they are expensive and not available in 225/35/19 tire size, but only in 235/35/19. So maybe the Maxxis aren't a bad option for 225/35/19 if your rims are less than 8J, otherwise you may go for more decent brands on 235/35/19.

 

 

 

 

Edited 11 November, 20223 yr by fr1nklyn

6 hours ago, Carlston said:

ETRTO recommends at least an 8J rim for the 235/35R19 tyre size

Exactly why? They used to recommend an 80% rim width of tyre width fitment, and I make mounting a 235 tyre on a 7.5J to give an 81% section.

10 hours ago, KenONeill said:

Exactly why? They used to recommend an 80% rim width of tyre width fitment, and I make mounting a 235 tyre on a 7.5J to give an 81% section.

 

An 80% of the tyre width rule wouldn't take into account the aspect ratio.

 

As you can see in the chart below, the ETRTO approved rim widths vary depending not only on the width of the tyre but also the aspect ratio. As the aspect ratio goes down, the range of approved rim widths tends to go up for any given tyre width.

 

ETRTO approved rim widths for passenger car tyres

205/80 5.0-5.5-7.0

205/70 5.0-6.0-7.0

205/65 5.5-6.0-7.5

205/60 5.5-6.0-7.5

205/55 5.5-6.5-7.5

205/50 5.5-6.5-7.5

205/45 6.5-7.0-7.5

205/40 7.0-7.5-8.0

 

Edited 11 November, 20223 yr by Carlston

11 minutes ago, Carlston said:

As you can see in the chart below

Well yes, but it's now a complex example of proof by assertion.

Thank you to all.

I'll go through this in detail over the w/e

 

Thanks for the Scout thread bump rootroot

Final choice will be Michelin 225/50x17 Cross Climate 2

Chucky enough I think

I have been using Goodyear all seasons fot two years now and can highly recommend them. I have had the Michelin all seasons on my previous car and they were good then but the Goodyears are better in my opinion.