Hey all,

 

As above really, I am bouncing between a Racingline engine and DSG map or a Revo engine and DSG map. I had a quick search but couldn't find specific answers.

 

Racingline have 3 dealers within an hour and a half of me. Revo have a dealer in Plymouth, 10 mins up the road and another 1 hour away.

 

My main issue is I would prefer a proper dyno applied map and these local 'dealers' for both appear to just provide flash services.

 

Am I expecting too much? Is a dyno applied map needed? 

 

Any experience on either map on a stock 220ps TSI VRS DSG?

 

Thanks for any help,

 

Doug

RL and revo both have done extensive research and regardless of dyno applied or not the cars files will be sent back n forth to the RL & REVO software guys to tweak for your car and very often test out on the road which is better than dyno. Always nice to have a rolling road before and after tho. Tvs is also a really nice tune especially for the dsg 

8 hours ago, Esseesse200 said:

RL and revo both have done extensive research and regardless of dyno applied or not the cars files will be sent back n forth to the RL & REVO software guys to tweak for your car and very often test out on the road which is better than dyno. Always nice to have a rolling road before and after tho. Tvs is also a really nice tune especially for the dsg 

Thanks for the reply, It makes sense they would do it under real world conditions and load. But it is nice to see what the curve is like. If I'm honest, I'm not chasing power but driveability. I love the DSG box for everyday driving but there is tweaks that I think can be made. 

 

I'll check our TVS, what's different about their DSG tune?

13 hours ago, Dooge said:

Thanks for the reply, It makes sense they would do it under real world conditions and load. But it is nice to see what the curve is like. If I'm honest, I'm not chasing power but driveability. I love the DSG box for everyday driving but there is tweaks that I think can be made. 

 

I'll check our TVS, what's different about their DSG tune?

They are dsg specialists. Conversions, repairs mods etc but their tunes have a lot of features like life extender, optimised shifting points and smoooooth is an understatement. Just makes the car so easy to drive 

@Esseesse200 which tvs dealer did you use?

There's one in Bognor Regis and one in Farnborough, both equal distance from me.

 

On 29/11/2022 at 09:27, RoddersUK said:

@Esseesse200 which tvs dealer did you use?

There's one in Bognor Regis and one in Farnborough, both equal distance from me.

 

I used clp tuning up in the north mate 

Ah, miles away haha.

Looking at TVS and their remap standards are alot different to most of the big ones. 

 

I did price up APR, Revo, Racingline and TVS Performance for stage 1 ECU and TCU maps, Revo was just the cheapest both pre-black Friday and without because they offer £200 off when both ECU and TCU is bought together.

 

-Revo - £576 ECU + £478.80 (Inc tax) - £200 is £854.80

-APR - £529.85 - £662.33 ECU + £662.33 (Inc tax - I can't find an accurate price online) is £1192.18 at cheapest and £1324.66 at most expensive. 

-Racingline - £1020 for both (Inc tax - for vehicles with GPF's)

-TVS Performance - £858.96 for both (Inc tax - converted from Euros on their website, this is for their stage 2 software)

@Doogeare you saying TVS standards are better or worse?

9 hours ago, RoddersUK said:

@Doogeare you saying TVS standards are better or worse?

No opinion as I've not used them, I just notice that everyone's stage 1 remap is approx 300+ and then you normally get stage 2 which is a small jump with supporting mods, maybe to 325 and stage 3 is often bigger turbo territory and looking at 380+. 

 

TVS have a stage 1 which quotes a 30hp gain and a similar amount of torque. This is unusual in the big names of remapping but could be known as an 'economy map' through cheaper flash mappers. Often done with the sole reason (from what I understand) to smooth out torque curves and enable better economy whilst delivering a marginally better driving experience. 

 

When talking about modifications its generally recognised that anything that's worth less than a 10% gain in power/torque won't be felt very easily. So 30hp on a car that's already rather at close to 220hp is only just above a 10% gain.

 

Then they have stage 2 which is equivalent to everyone else's stage 1. Nothing wrong with doing it this way and makes things a bit more accessible.

Celtic Tuning at Quintrell Downs Cornwall I recommend.

 

They have dealers across the country and also mobile fitters (or at least they did) I used a local dealer for a remap and their main base for an emissions rollback when I was in the area and I would highly recommend them.

On 05/12/2022 at 12:48, Dooge said:

Looking at TVS and their remap standards are alot different to most of the big ones. 

 

I did price up APR, Revo, Racingline and TVS Performance for stage 1 ECU and TCU maps, Revo was just the cheapest both pre-black Friday and without because they offer £200 off when both ECU and TCU is bought together.

 

-Revo - £576 ECU + £478.80 (Inc tax) - £200 is £854.80

-APR - £529.85 - £662.33 ECU + £662.33 (Inc tax - I can't find an accurate price online) is £1192.18 at cheapest and £1324.66 at most expensive. 

-Racingline - £1020 for both (Inc tax - for vehicles with GPF's)

-TVS Performance - £858.96 for both (Inc tax - converted from Euros on their website, this is for their stage 2 software)

Racingline also offer discounted prices when both are bought together. . 

 

Their ecu and tcu stage1 is £801-ish on awsome gti(prices are blanketed regardless of dealer) if bought as a package. . Which was recently £640 in the black friday deals. . 

 

I'm guessing the price you have their is for separate ecu and tcu maps added together with over 1k? 

 

I priced them up recently and also phoned awsome to make sure in the package you could also get the gpf specific maps, which I was told yes. .

 

It is a bit confusing that gpf specific maps are listed separately and not mentioned as part of the package.

5 hours ago, J.R. said:

Celtic Tuning at Quintrell Downs Cornwall I recommend.

 

They have dealers across the country and also mobile fitters (or at least they did) I used a local dealer for a remap and their main base for an emissions rollback when I was in the area and I would highly recommend them.

Celtic Tuning have been on my radar too. Back in the old days they had a reputation for being a bit spiky as maps go but I think it's all greatly improved.

 

3 hours ago, vrs'burks said:

Racingline also offer discounted prices when both are bought together. . 

 

Their ecu and tcu stage1 is £801-ish on awsome gti(prices are blanketed regardless of dealer) if bought as a package. . Which was recently £640 in the black friday deals. . 

 

I'm guessing the price you have their is for separate ecu and tcu maps added together with over 1k? 

 

I priced them up recently and also phoned awsome to make sure in the package you could also get the gpf specific maps, which I was told yes. .

 

It is a bit confusing that gpf specific maps are listed separately and not mentioned as part of the package.

Yeh, I couldn't find an actual map for a 220PS VRS. I found one for a 245 but that was factoring in the GPF so figured it would be more expensive due to probably more coding or tweaking to ensure the GPF is happy. And yes, it was their ECU and TCU tune together, but the Awesome GTI site didn't show the discount. 

 

Racingline's 'shop' site is down atm so Awesome GTI was the only place I could find a price