Hi,

 

Had new tyres on yesterday and saw the state the discs and pads are in. Car has done 55k miles so was expecting pads to be worn out but the rear discs, in particular, look bad; one has cracks in afew places.

 

Was looking at some options at Euro Car Parts.

 

I presume I have 256mm front/230mm rear (1.2 TSI 90, 185 R15s) as they look about those sizes if I get the tape measure out.

 

Options seen to be Eicher/Bosch/Brembo/Pagidvand ATE.

 

Out of those, I'd probably choose Bosch for both discs and pads but are they any good? I heard Pagid no longer make/they're just a brand but is this the case? 

 

Thanks in advance for advice 

Ok, so I think this sticker is supposed to tell me which brake options I have via PR codes.

 

I think the 1KT means 230mm rear discs but the front discs come up as 1ZE to 1ZG, which doesn't appear on the sticker.

 

Did I get an oddball factory set? 

Front brake PR code is rarely if ever on the sticker.

Measure, or message me with VIN.

 

23 hours ago, briscaF1 said:

Out of those, I'd probably choose Bosch for both discs and pads but are they any good? I heard Pagid no longer make/they're just a brand but is this the case? 

Fitted Bosch discs and pads all round this summer along with new fluid. The difference was massive, although the brake fluid was 3.5 years new and contained a special blend of algae. 

 

Getting the ABS to kick in isn't a problem and they do stop the car very well, but seem to lack precision (there's a fair amount of pedal travel after the initial grab before much else happens). Not a complaint, rather an observation and something that can easily be adjusted to. 

 

Agree the factory discs are poor, one of my rears warped around 30k. 

2 hours ago, well****ed said:

Fitted Bosch discs and pads all round this summer along with new fluid. The difference was massive, although the brake fluid was 3.5 years new and contained a special blend of algae. 

 

Getting the ABS to kick in isn't a problem and they do stop the car very well, but seem to lack precision (there's a fair amount of pedal travel after the initial grab before much else happens). Not a complaint, rather an observation and something that can easily be adjusted to. 

 

Agree the factory discs are poor, one of my rears warped around 30k. 

My rears have delaminated so are in a real state. They need swapping out asap.

 

When you say the difference was massive, is that a good massive or bad massive? 🙂 I'm assuming good.

 

The fluid is original in mine so probably could do with a swap, too. 

 

I'm not planning on doing any Frank Kelly antics so I'll just be happy if they stop the car when required without needing two feet on the brake pedal, and last about as long as the factory items, without the delamination 😳

1 hour ago, briscaF1 said:

last about as long as the factory items, without the delamination

If you want your brakes to last then:-

Remove, clean, relubricate and refit yearly in the autumn.

My 2016 Fabia III is at 75K miles and brakes are just over half worn with no lamination on the disks.

 

Thanks. AG Falco

13 minutes ago, AGFalco said:

If you want your brakes to last then:-

Remove, clean, relubricate and refit yearly in the autumn.

My 2016 Fabia III is at 75K miles and brakes are just over half worn with no lamination on the disks.

 

Thanks. AG Falco

 

That's good going...! 

 

I live in a pretty hilly area so in think mine get a bit of stick. The Focus I had beforehand did about 55k on the original front discs and pads but I think they were in a better state than those on the Fabia; the Focus had drums on the back, too 

22 hours ago, briscaF1 said:

Focus had drums on the back

My 2009 Fiat Panda at 133 K miles is still on its original rear brake shoes!

Not enough handbrake turns. 😄

 

Thanks. AG Falco

1 hour ago, AGFalco said:

My 2009 Fiat Panda at 133 K miles is still on its original rear brake shoes!

Not enough handbrake turns. 😄

 

Thanks. AG Falco

 

Every time it snows, the handbrake is given a thorough test 😉 

Just recently I fitted rear brake pads and discs to my wife's 2015 1.2 90, (185/60 r15) car at 57k-miles the discs were called 230mm.  I used the Pagid brand (name?) for both pads and discs as that's what I put on the front a few years ago and they seemed OK in use.

 

"Pagid is an OE brand of TMD Friction, and part of the Nisshinbo Group – the world’s biggest manufacturer of brake friction, and a truly global partner for the automotive industry." - https://pagid.com/about-us/

 

For front brakes I put up a thread in the Guides section (but forgot to put it was for a 2015 Mk3 1.2 TSI SE car) -  

 

 

For the rear ("230 mm") brakes of my wife's 2015 Mk3 1.2 TSI SE I needed 13 & 15 mm spanners, Torx T30 driver and borrowed a mate's rewind tool with suitable end plate,  There was not a need to remove the caliper carrier cradle to get the old discs off and new ones on, a H7 hex would have been required if I had needed or wanted to.

 

The disc are held by one T30 headed short screw, on the back one of these screws had already fell out but the other side was in so tight I wished I had loosened them before removing the caliper and pads so my tip would be to loosen these off whilst you can still apply the handbrake or other easy bracing.

 

I also personally recommend using (two) screw-in wheel hanger fitting/removal alignment guide pins when removing and refitting each road wheel.  Normally only one is used but two is better. One or two of these could help prevent getting a back pain from the silly VW wheel bolts instead of fixed wheel studs (guess how I know this).

 

Rear Pagid pads included new (thread-lock applied) screws.

 

Replacing the discs & pads is a very dirty but uncomplicated job but being brakes needs to be done thoroughly and properly, don't worry about any macho boasting of how quick it can be done rather allow multiples of time to do the job thoroughly and well, plus Sod's Law you'll find other stuff that you should do whilst you're there.

 

Hope some of this helps and applies to your model.

  

Edited 20 September, 20232 yr by nta16