Hello,

2019 1.5 SE

I heard particle filters were fitted to some newer petrol engines but was surprised to see this in the owners manual.

Does this model have such a thing ?

Thank you

I think particulate filters were phased in from late 2017 to mid 2018 (exact date varies by engine model).

 

It's not like a diesel PF that injects fuel and does regenerations at intervals, petrol ones get hot quickly and exhaust gases pass through it, and it is cleaning continuously.
 

The only thing you will notice is when you start the car, it idles faster for first 2-3 minutes until it is upto operating temperature.  Idles nearer 1250 rpm then settles back down to nearer 900rpm

 

 

Edited 1 December, 20232 yr by SurreyJohn

This should be in the owners manual.

Maybe someone can confirm of in theirs since 2018. 

Hello Rooted, Thanks for your reply.

That is the page I saw which alerted me to this issue. I also noted that it said that, as with diesel cars, short stop start journeys are not good for petrol cars either with this filter. As I've just changed to petrol from a Yeti diesel to avoid regen issues this isn't good news.

Time will tell.

SurreyJohn, thanks for your reply,

Higher revs at start up would explain why the car doesn't slow down as expected in traffic.

I've just bought this car to replace Yeti diesel as people say diesels are not good for short start stop journeys and they're right as constant active regens were getting to be a pain.

To read that these cars are not suitable for this driving either is a bugger. How many people do any other type of driving, especially in a city where most journeys are short stop start and idling in traffic.

That leaves the choice of earlier euro 5 without PPF or hybrid, full EV.

Only just bought this so time will tell if this is, as you say, less problematic as a DPF.

Hey ho

 

14 minutes ago, arthurmo said:

Hello Rooted, Thanks for your reply.

That is the page I saw which alerted me to this issue. I also noted that it said that, as with diesel cars, short stop start journeys are not good for petrol cars either with this filter. As I've just changed to petrol from a Yeti diesel to avoid regen issues this isn't good news.

Time will tell.

 

In all my time on several forums I have never seen a post about issues with a GPF. I don't think you need to be concerned.

1 minute ago, Routemaster1461 said:

 

In all my time on several forums I have never seen a post about issues with a GPF. I don't think you need to be concerned.

Thank you for your reply.

That's reassuring to hear, appreciate it.

@Routemaster1461  do you want a link to those that had GPF issues, especially during COVID lockdown.  Fabia MK3 section high RPM question and in the Octavia MK3 section.  1.0 TSI,s.  First ones sold.    Do not expect to hear much about issues with cars over 5 years old until they are 5 years old.   Or some people will have no issues, or just not notice. 

Yet to hear of the cost of replacement GPF,s at Skoda main dealers.   Basically because if you ask at a Service Desk the staff might have not a clue what you are talking about.  And if they ask people that know they will say don't worry they are for life.   True.  Life as long as they last untill they might need replaced.  Just like DPF,s but cheaper.     So how much cheaper,?  Silence.  

4 hours ago, Rooted said:

@Routemaster1461  do you want a link to those that had GPF issues,

I would like that link please.

I thought GPF was American and PPF here.

Same thing.   as is OPF.

 

Use keywords in a search engine.

 

btiskoda gpf

 

 

 

Edited 2 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

Did a search and didn't find anyone who'd had an issue with a blocked one.

Just really p****d off that going to petrol to avoid constant DPF issues I'm confronted with GPFs not suitable for short start stop journeys either.

Seems manufacturers are puppets of net zero regs.

Thanks for all the replies

 

22 hours ago, arthurmo said:

Higher revs at start up would explain why the car doesn't slow down as expected in traffic

This sounds like a different problem - not filter-related- especially if it's happening beyond the first minute or two from cold start; in my opinion.

6 minutes ago, arthurmo said:

Just really p****d off that going to petrol to avoid constant DPF issues I'm confronted with GPFs not suitable for short start stop journeys either.

 

For what it's worth, I think you're worrying over nothing. I tend to do mainly short journeys, and I've not had any issues so far in either of the Kodiaqs that I've owned. I had a diesel Octavia before that - was doing long journeys when I got it, but then started working from home, and by the time I got rid of it, it was trying to do a re-gen more often than not because of the short journeys.

 

As an aside, VAG are starting to take the **** with their 'advice' on how their cars should be driven - a friend with an ID.4 was told he should only charge it to 80% under normal circumstances, and if he charges it to 100%, to make sure he uses it to <80% within 12 hours of it finishing charging. No idea if Enyaq owners are told the same, or if this was one dealer talking rubbish.

2 hours ago, Breezy_Pete said:

This sounds like a different problem - not filter-related- especially if it's happening beyond the first minute or two from cold start; in my opinion.

Hey, thanks for your reply.

I have a feeling that it is as SurreyJohn says. This only happens when the car starts and for the first 5 minutes or so.

Being an auto the higher revs means the normal creep and hold is affected.

2 hours ago, Yogi-Bear said:

 

2 hours ago, Yogi-Bear said:

 

For what it's worth, I think you're worrying over nothing. I tend to do mainly short journeys, and I've not had any issues so far in either of the Kodiaqs that I've owned.

God bless ya, that's just what I wanted to hear 🙂👍

Very early days so.....

Really doesn't help when the owners manual states "not suitable for short start stop journeys"

Thanks

There is nothing about blocked GPF,s just how to deal with them if you think they might be getting that way or you notice odd behaviour.  High RPM is anti stall. Also heating up the Catalytic Converter, and now it can be the GPF.    Let's get to them being fitted to Skoda's for 7 years to see how things go with over 6 year old doing short journeys and lots of cold start short journeys. 

On 02/12/2023 at 10:23, arthurmo said:

Did a search and didn't find anyone who'd had an issue with a blocked one.

Just really p****d off that going to petrol to avoid constant DPF issues I'm confronted with GPFs not suitable for short start stop journeys either.

Seems manufacturers are puppets of net zero regs.

Thanks for all the replies

 

Just noticed this thread.

I've had my car 4 years now.

I potter around like an old man (because I am an old man), and my 2019 car has just over 20K miles on the clock, so I'm doing a tiny 4K miles a year.

I haven't had so much as a hint of a GPF issue. I notice the increased RPM on start-up for about a minute, something like 1200rpm that settles down to 800-900rpm.

 

I too was worried about having a GPF, having made a reluctant change from diesel to petrol to avoid the DPF issues.

But as it happens, I have not regretted the change to petrol at all. There have been no downsides to it, bar poorer MPG, mitigated by cheaper fuel.

The improved smoothness, quietness and ability to rev to 6K without running out of puff at 4.5K, while still providing good low-down torque have been a delight.

Really, don't worry about your GPF. Worry about the silica bag in your coolant instead. 😋

Young days yet and not short cold starts in a cold place.  The rpm higher is as it has been with TSI,s and catalytic converters since long before GPF,s.    Never heard or read yet of anyone with a Skoda since 2018 or any VW model needing a replacement GPF which is a good thing.   Let's hope that goes on for many years beyond 6. 

We've been dealing with vehicles with GPFs for a few years now, at work.  Some VAG, but also Ford and Stellantis.  Haven't had a problem in about 10,000 vehicles now, if that gives the OP any comfort?  As others have said, petrols run at such high exhaust temperatures normally, that regens just aren't the issue that they are with lightly-used diesels.  As they're wheelchair-accessible vehicles. some of them do absolutely tiny annual mileages, and many of them only do short runs.

On 02/12/2023 at 10:23, arthurmo said:

Did a search and didn't find anyone who'd had an issue with a blocked one.

Just really p****d off that going to petrol to avoid constant DPF issues I'm confronted with GPFs not suitable for short start stop journeys either.

Seems manufacturers are puppets of net zero regs.

Thanks for all the replies

 

No, it's important to distinguish between two separate environmental problems here.   DPFs and GPFs are to do with air quality.  Reducing the amount of particulates we're having to breathe.  Respiratory problems like asthma, etc. 

"Net Zero" is about reducing greenhouse gasses to try and help with climate change.

On 20/05/2024 at 10:00, EnterName said:

 

Really, don't worry about your GPF. Worry about the silica bag in your coolant instead. 😋

 

Oh my days, never heard of a GPF but resolved that here. Now, never heard of a silica bag in the coolant 😖

Thank heavens for this site I'm now up to speed on this strange gizmo too.