Hi there,
I've recently bought a second hand skoda karoq, 2019, 1.6 TDI.
now it's winter time and I need to change the tires.
at the moment this size  215/50R18 tires on the car. 
I want to buy  new  all weather rim and tires. which brand and size do you recommend.
I'm am a new driver and to be honest I have not much experince with driving with different size of tires.
sidenote: I'm a family man and safty of the family is the most option that I think about :). 
I appreciate you if you share your thoughts and recommendation with me.
Cheers
 

Hi, I have just fitted 4 x Vredestein Quatrac Pro 215/50 R18 W to my Karoq SEL. Done about 500 miles on them so far in Wet and cold weather. So far very happy with them.

I used to live in Oberammergau and had a 4x4 Karoq Scout then. Fitted the same tyres (but 19 inch) which were very sure footed in all the snow we had during the winter. Also happy at speed on the Autobahn and in Croatia in the summer.

They are legal for winter use and a little cheaper than Goodyear and Michelin equivalents.

I would stick to the same size (215/50 R18) to avoid any problems with your insurance company. 

 

The best all-season tyres in that size according to Tyrereviews.com would be the Goodyear Vector 4Season Gen 3 and Michelin's CrossClimate 2 or CrossClimate 2 SUV. 

 

Continental's AllSeasonContact 2 and Bridgestone's Turenza 6 All Season also have good reports but aren't available in that size yet.

 

Chris

Hey @CJJE,
Thank you for you suggestion,
when I bought the car, there were 4 summer tire, size 215/50 R 18 and 4  winter tire 215/60 R 16,  I changed it yesterday due to snow here.
I drive with it for 1 days and driving with it sounds more comfortable for the passenger and steering is softer than 18 inch.
this is the topic that put me on more confusing.  to be honest driving with 18 inch tires on  Karoq 2019 1.6 TDI was a bit rigid. particulary on Bumps and potholes.
I'm attaching the photo that I took today. 16 inch sounds small, isn't that? 
I've got confused that which tire is the optimum option. chatGPT is syaing maybe  215/55 R 17,  but I prefer to hear more with people that have higher experince in driving and specially driving with skoda karoq. 

Cheers,
 

Hi @Rupertthebear,
Thanks for you sharing your experince, do you have the same car, karoq  1.6 TDI, isn't 18 inch tires rigid on that? have you tried something smaller for experincing more comfortable driving?

Cheers,

Hi @Rupertthebear,
Thanks for you sharing your experince, do you have the same car, karoq  1.6 TDI, isn't 18 inch tires rigid on that? have you tried something smaller for experincing more comfortable driving?

Cheers,

Mine is a Karoq 1.0 TSi manual. I just went for the same size tyres as didn’t want to get new rims as keep the all seasons on all year around.

I'm happy with 17" wheels for summer and 16" for winter tyres.
Mind that 16" rims require low-profile balancing weights, the front brakes are so close.

 

 

Edited 5 December, 20232 yr by agedbriar

Hi Josif,

 

I missed that you are in Germany where many drivers switch between summer and winter tyres on different wheels. 

 

The 16 inch wheels with a deeper profile will certainly be more comfortable than the 18 inch, and as long as the circumference of both tyres is similar you should be fine. the website Tire Size Converter will let you compare the two tyres. I think that there are also German websites that list the approved wheels and tyres for cars, and that you need to comply with these requirements to be legal. Apart from that, the use of bigger diameter wheels with lower profile tyres is largely a fashion-led drive to 'improve' their appearance and disregard their comfort. 

 

Auto Bild have excellent tests on all-season tyres, and the ones I listed before seem to come out top with them. 

 

You may also find the German Karoq forum of interest - Skoda Karoq Forum – The German-speaking Karoq Community

 

Chris

 

 

Edited 5 December, 20232 yr by CJJE

4 hours ago, CJJE said:

would stick to the same size (215/50 R18) to avoid any problems with your insurance company.

 

There are several different tyre sizes on the vehicles homologation certificate, the use of any of them can not be questioned.

 

My tyres are 215/60/16 and the winter wheels which I doubt I will even bother with this year are 205/55/16, there is a 5% circumferential difference between them yet they are both shown on the homologation certificate, with the built in speedo error my speedometer and odeometer under-read by nearly 10% when using the winter wheels.

3 minutes ago, J.R. said:

 

There are several different tyre sizes on the vehicles homologation certificate, the use of any of them can not be questioned.

 

My tyres are 215/60/16 and the winter wheels which I doubt I will even bother with this year are 205/55/16, there is a 5% circumferential difference between them yet they are both shown on the homologation certificate, with the built in speedo error my speedometer and odeometer under-read by nearly 10% when using the winter wheels.

Yes, I had read that was true in Germany, and from what you say in France too. But I had wrongly assumed that Josif was in the UK where we don't have homologation certificates (as far as I am aware) so we need to fir the same size as that supplied by the manufacturer to avoid our insurance companies increasing our premiums for modifying the car. We also very rarely need to fit winter tyres, and when we do then we need to tell our insurance companies to avoid them voiding our policies.

 

Chris

You absolutely do have them, it is required for first registration, most of the time they do not make their way to the first owner but VAG will supply it FOC on request.

 

All the "I must tell my insurer if I fart" nonsense is getting a bit repetitive now 😒

In Slovenia, the dealer hands the homologation certificate over to the first owner and we are supposed to have it along when driving.

It lists all the approved rim/tyre sizes.
 

Edited 6 December, 20232 yr by agedbriar

We run a 2020 Sportline 1.5dsg on 19in CrossClimates. Previously had these fitted on a Subaru Forester and LR Freelander and never had a problem. I accept that in SELondon we don’t see depths of snow that others might experience in other parts of the country, but am still very happy with the CCs in all weathers. Bought ours through Camskill about 4 months ago and had my local guy fit them. On offer at the time with a cashback offer from Michelin

On 05/12/2023 at 23:01, CJJE said:

Hi Josif,

 

I missed that you are in Germany where many drivers switch between summer and winter tyres on different wheels. 

 

The 16 inch wheels with a deeper profile will certainly be more comfortable than the 18 inch, and as long as the circumference of both tyres is similar you should be fine. the website Tire Size Converter will let you compare the two tyres. I think that there are also German websites that list the approved wheels and tyres for cars, and that you need to comply with these requirements to be legal. Apart from that, the use of bigger diameter wheels with lower profile tyres is largely a fashion-led drive to 'improve' their appearance and disregard their comfort. 

 

Auto Bild have excellent tests on all-season tyres, and the ones I listed before seem to come out top with them. 

 

You may also find the German Karoq forum of interest - Skoda Karoq Forum – The German-speaking Karoq Community

 

Chris

 

 

Thanks Chris, I'm in Germany but I'm not speaking German  . this is the reason I asked the question here.
In Berlin is not very much of snow and all weather tires will works will changing tires is expensive ( 40-50 euros each time), 
I'm still doubful about the size,  should I go for 17 inch or 16 inch for all season or keep 18 inches?

 

Hi Josif

 

I don't speak German either, but find the auto-translate function in my browser (Edge) works very well, with only minor mistranslations of technical jargon or idioms.

 

Chris

9 minutes ago, CJJE said:

Hi Josif

 

I don't speak German either, but find the auto-translate function in my browser (Edge) works very well, with only minor mistranslations of technical jargon or idioms.

 

Chris

:D:D . Usually do the same ;), but sometimes it would be easier to ask stuffs in English base communities/forums.

7 hours ago, Josif said:

...should I go for 17 inch or 16 inch for all season or keep 18 inches?

 

If you want the cheaper steel rims, then they are only available in 16"...at least in the standard Karoq 6Jx16 ET43 rim size.

 

However, if you want alloy rims then you can look at both 16" and 17" sizes.
 

6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 alloy rim (from Karoq)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-nanuq-16-karoq/p/57A071496A+8Z8

 

Continental AllSeasonContact 2 215/55R17 94V (Euro label B B 70dB)

https://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s8825p220589/Continental_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Continental_Conti_All_Season_Contact_2_215_55_R17_94V_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_B_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_70dB

 

7Jx17 ET45 5/112 57.1 alloy rim (from Karoq)

https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/alu-kolo-ratikon-17-karoq/p/57A071497C+8Z8

 

Edited 19 December, 20232 yr by Carlston

5 minutes ago, Carlston said:

If you want the cheaper steel rims, then they are only available in 16"...at least in the standard Karoq 6Jx16 ET43 rim size.

 

However, if you want alloy rims then you can look at both 16" and 17" sizes.

beside the price, I more looking for your recommendation that which size you recommend more. chatGPT is saying 16 inch more comfortable but the handling is not good as enough and 18 inch  .
is there anybody here that has 16 or 17 inch with  all seasons and happy with that?

Cheers
 

My Karoq 1.0 DSG came with Turanzas on 17" wheels that weren't in my view as bad as some people find for noise and ride.  i changed last year to 16" wheels with Hankook Synerguy 4S2 All weather tyres as they seemed highly rated all round in 2022 in more than 1 tyre comparison test review.  If anything i found the handling a little sharper with the new 16"wheel/AWtyre combo.  Anyway the 2023 all weather tyre tests are now in and here's a rather lengthy summary I'm afraid

 

AutoExpress magazine

They liked the Hankook Kinergy 4S2 best in the previous 2 years, but now relegated to 5th place.  The overall rankings were as follows, but it should be noted that the overall scores in the top 6 were close.  The Hankooks & Pirelli were marked down due to their worse rolling resistance, which the mag says translates into a 2% less economy, i.e. about 1mpg maybe - hardly a factor in my view.
1st Goodyear Vector 4Seasons Gen-3
2nd Vredenstein quatrac
3rd Michelin Cross Climate 2
4th Firestome multiseason GEN 02
5th Hankook Kinergy 4S2
6th Pirelli Cinturatos All Season SF2 ( a tyre that hwas seemingly out of production last year but now back in revised form

 

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-24-Tyre-Reviews-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Michelin;    2nd Goodyear    3rd Hankook

 

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Auto-Bild-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Michelin;    2nd Continental AllSeasonsContact 2    3rd Bridgestone Turanza All Season 6    6th Goodyear    7th Hankook    Pirellis not tested

 

https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/2023-Auto-Zeitung-All-Season-Tyre-Test.htm
1st Goodyear    2nd Michelin    3rd Hankook

 

I suspect Hankook have changed the compound formulation yet again, aiming for long life in tests possibly moderately at the expense of snow performance and noise/comfort.  The tyres I bought were likely this more recent brew, sadly, though I'm still pleased with them.  These days I seem to be doing only 6,000miles per annum, (a few years ago was more than double this) so going by what Autobild expect the tyre life to be, my Hankooks should last 6 or 7 years.  I may want to change them sooner, depending on what's available in a few year's time.

 

Turning to noise and ride comfort, AutoExpress assessed noise inside the car (where my Hankooks they reckon aren't now near top), the Pirellis were very good in this regard with Goodyear & Vredenstein not too far behind.  Tyre reviews also assessed comfort inside the car (combined ride/noise rating) the Goodyear top this time but Hankook & Michelin a close (ish) 2nd.  The other 2 reviews only measured noise outside the car which is of little guide to internal cabin noise levels.  However Auto Zeitung separately looked at comfort, presumably meaning ride and here the Pirellis were an easy 1st with Michelin 2nd & Hankook 3rd.

 

The Pirellis have in previous years been rated as very good for comfort and it's good to see that after a break and now in slightly revised form, they still are class leaders herer and not bad all round too, pity they weren't available last year when I was buying, I'd have likely gone for them.

 

It would seem that you can't go too wrong with the Cross Climates though, with their overall strengths and few weaknesses - as many people have commented in this forum.  I should note however that I had Cross Climate 1s on my previous Yeti and they were very prone to getting stones and pebbles stuck in the sipes, which I found annoying, whereas my current Hankooks don't seem to suffer this.