32 minutes ago, Jorgeminator said:

10 hour trip on the race track, or what? Just save yourself the trouble and leave it on. You will remove 5x more heat from the engine by turning up the cabin heat a couple of degrees, than taking the cover off 😅

(Edit: I see it's summer over there, but that doesn't affect things too much, the idea is the same)

Just a trip from one city in one state to another.  What??? racing?? for 10 hours?? I don't think so, I'm just an average driver lol going to visit family for Christmas new years.  Ok  thanks 😆 anyway I doubt I will turn the heater on lol 😂. Yeah, nahh.  I'd rather not cook myself as well.🤣

6 minutes ago, LuxoviaRS said:

Just a trip from one city in one state to another.  What??? racing?? for 10 hours?? I don't think so, I'm just an average driver lol going to visit family for Christmas new years.  Ok  thanks 😆 anyway I doubt I will turn the heater on lol 😂. Yeah, nahh.  I'd rather not cook myself as well.🤣

Yep, I wouldn't be turning temps up either!! Where I'm sitting we're at 34C right now, next couple of weeks forecast is to get hotter, it's why we have a/c. The opinions of others may be interesting, but driving to the conditions in ones own region determines best practice. Preserving a piece of plastic under the hood isn't a priority for us at this time of year.

Just on a side note...the turbo is between the engine block and the firewall...uncovered...

 

2 hours ago, SouthernComfort said:

Yep, I wouldn't be turning temps up either!! Where I'm sitting we're at 34C right now, next couple of weeks forecast is to get hotter, it's why we have a/c. The opinions of others may be interesting, but driving to the conditions in ones own region determines best practice. Preserving a piece of plastic under the hood isn't a priority for us at this time of year.

Exactly all good points I totally agree.  👍 

41 minutes ago, ZacDaMan72 said:

Just on a side note...the turbo is between the engine block and the firewall...uncovered...

 

Yes that's true..... Not sure if I'm seeing right but it looks like, you have some type of mesh there or something like that behind the plastic cover over the turbo. What is that I don't have that 

You do not have a Kodiaq vRS or one of the cars with heat reflective material then.  You have what you have sold in Australia.  Spec for that country. 

 

Behind a 2016 2.0 TDI in the UK.  It got some shiny silver material as well. 

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1 hour ago, Rooted said:

You do not have a Kodiaq vRS or one of the cars with heat reflective material then.  You have what you have sold in Australia.  Spec for that country. 

That was an NZ-spec Octavia Mk4 RS...this is an Australian spec one:

 

After looking closer do you have the same as above @LuxoviaRS?

 

I see no cozy battery covers.

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56 minutes ago, Rooted said:

After looking closer do you have the same as above @LuxoviaRS?

 

I see no cozy battery covers.

 

Actually sorry my eyes must have been deceiving me, it's like I was looking at some optical illusion and thought there was a mesh or something covering the turbo. Anyway yes I do have that shiny material.  Oh and yes I've taken the, cover off so ...🫣

Did you check the water temperature on your dashboard before removing the engine cover?
What I'm actually asking is: was this removal really necessary (high engine coolant temp), or was it just a precaution?
I know you guys have some tough summer seasons down there, but I doubt Skoda didn't anticipate it's cars being driven during hot season.

The COOLANT indicated temp at around 90*oC is just approx 90*oC.   Kidology to save people crapping themselves. It could be 95*oC but you need plugged in to be getting readings.

 

Oil Temperature up and down might be of more importance, but than the cars deals with the -20*oC or lower to the 50*oC Ambient temps or higher.

Or the under bonnet temp under scorching sun and dark painted bonnets being even higher than that.

 

Not only does VW Group know about extreme temps high or low, they know about below sea level and death valley, and a very high above sea level.

Then fuel differences / octanes / quality and they de-tune engines in some world regions. 

 

PS

Engine covers.

If they stop stour / dust, salt, sand & drips of condensation from uninsulated bonnets etc getting all over the coils and all that bits of space ready to get messy then they have done their job. From Iceland to the Sahara via the Salt Flats & Pikes Peak.

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1 hour ago, Rooted said:

The COOLANT indicated temp at around 90*oC is just approx 90*oC.   Kidology to save people crapping themselves. It could be 95*oC but you need plugged in to be getting readings.

Fact. My Golf MkIV had its deadzone programmed to 70-108°C from factory. After coding out the deadband, boy was it fun to see the needle dip during engine braking on a cold winter day 😁

 

@LuxoviaRS There's really no need to remove the cover if you're just driving on the highway. I mentioned the race track because that's probably the only place ever where a functioning stock engine would be susceptible to overheating. The radiator is designed to remove tens of kilowatts of energy. If you're in a situation where the radiator is already removing 50kW of heat and you remove the engine cover, a few hundred watts of extra cooling on top of the valve cover is not gonna make any practical difference.

2 hours ago, LuxoviaRS said:

Actually sorry my eyes must have been deceiving me, it's like I was looking at some optical illusion and thought there was a mesh or something covering the turbo. Anyway yes I do have that shiny material.  Oh and yes I've taken the, cover off so ...🫣

 

Shame you still cant see the engine under all the other K-rap!

 

The last time I ever went to the Motor Show would have been around 1992, I tagged along with a coach trip, 2 things stuck with me, you could no longer see the engines of the majority of cars, they all had engine covers plus other random plastic bits covering anything of interest to me, you could not even see the inner wings on many, there was little point in them having the bonnets open to display plastic.

 

Second thing was that Ford no longer sold any executive or larger vehicles the Granada had been dropped and nothing replaced it (the Galaxy arrived some time later), also all the staff and representatives on the stand wore shirts without a tie and no jackets, very informal compared to previous years and all the other manufacturers, a very different selling atmosphere more like talking to a neighbour in their garden, I dont know whether it was the start of a trend or other manufacturers followed suit as it was the last time I had any interest whatever in new cars.

The last car i had with an engine compartment worth giving a wash and brush up to was 12 years old when i got it and it was a Ford engine in a Volvo.

Not the original engine obviously as it went the way of many as they were fussy about the oil they were feed.

 

My Mini Electrics Engine compartment looks more like it has an ICE in there than many a petrol or diesel does thesse days.

 

S60, MINI Electric, Corsa Electric.

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4 hours ago, SkOmk4 said:

Did you check the water temperature on your dashboard before removing the engine cover?
What I'm actually asking is: was this removal really necessary (high engine coolant temp), or was it just a precaution?
I know you guys have some tough summer seasons down there, but I doubt Skoda didn't anticipate it's cars being driven during hot season.

Mine shows 90 all the time. I guess more of a precaution in a way due to it being a turbo and turbos are known to run at higher temperatures. Anyway it's not difficult to put back on. Yes of course 😄

3 hours ago, Jorgeminator said:

Fact. My Golf MkIV had its deadzone programmed to 70-108°C from factory. After coding out the deadband, boy was it fun to see the needle dip during engine braking on a cold winter day 😁

 

@LuxoviaRS There's really no need to remove the cover if you're just driving on the highway. I mentioned the race track because that's probably the only place ever where a functioning stock engine would be susceptible to overheating. The radiator is designed to remove tens of kilowatts of energy. If you're in a situation where the radiator is already removing 50kW of heat and you remove the engine cover, a few hundred watts of extra cooling on top of the valve cover is not gonna make any practical difference.

Ok noted thanks. Yes I agree the radiator does have that role and should be enough. Was just I guess pre-empting trying to reduce the risk of anything untoward occurring. Yes you're most likely right normal highway driving should not offer heat it.  Thanks for your response

@LuxoviaRSDisplay your Oil Temperature, that will  show how hard you are working the engine in whatever ambient temps.

That can go high.  The coolants job is to have it coming back near the 90*oC or so the coolant always shows.

You have more than a radiator, fan, water pump and oil coolers doing rhe job of protecting the engine, turbo, gearbox, there is supposed to be years of trial and error since VW moved from air cooled engines.  As in Beetle & Microbus.

@LuxoviaRS Bear in mind that the posters from UK and elsewhere that are commenting on not having engine covers due to recall have no bearing on you as Aus/NZ have a different spec engine that the recall did not apply to.

^^^ Good that your ones were not, there are others that were.

5 hours ago, Rooted said:

@LuxoviaRSDisplay your Oil Temperature, that will  show how hard you are working the engine in whatever ambient temps.

That can go high.  The coolants job is to have it coming back near the 90*oC or so the coolant always shows.

You have more than a radiator, fan, water pump and oil coolers doing rhe job of protecting the engine, turbo, gearbox, there is supposed to be years of trial and error since VW moved from air cooled engines.  As in Beetle & Microbus.

Yes I do that already I have the oil temp displayed on the virtual cockpit.  Is it the radiator fan I can hear working after the engine has been shut off. Well you would hope so but turbos on small 4 cylinder engines are a relative recent phenomenona.

 

Ok so we in Australia didn't get that engine then, interesting. Which spec engine was it? I don't recall of hearing anything about any issues with covers,  but then and again I wasn't really paying any attention, and if it was in a different state, which it looks like it was I wouldn't have known. 

 

 

Edited 8 December, 20232 yr by LuxoviaRS

1 hour ago, CS363 said:

@LuxoviaRS 

 

50 minutes ago, Rooted said:

^^^ Good that your ones were not, there are others that were.

Oh didn't even know about this.  Thanks for sharing. 

Yes, it's the fan. Small capacity engine turbos have been around for quite some time, by and large they're very efficient. If you've done a fairly fast run it's best to let the engine idle for around 30 secs or so before switching off to help the turbo and engine cool down. It will allow coolant and oil to continue flowing at a reduced temperature and relieve exhaust  pressure built up by the turbo avoiding damage to both turbo and engine.

You get some right nonsense talked.

 

@LuxoviaRSNo idea where you get the idea that 4 cylinder engines and turbo,s are a relative recent phenomeona.

 

?How old are you,

were you born by 1978?

My dad had a BMW turbo which was second had before that.

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