Public charging & the difficulty of using existing chargers and hubs is an issue for many and one not being addressed quickly enough.

It is getting attention from some in the media now. 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67726590

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-59549298

 

Pictures is at a Hub in Dundee where there is room, a canopy for cover in bad weather or even very sunny conditions.

The cables might help many,  the screens on the chargers still not great for wheel chair users or maybe others, not so tall etc. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 26 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

I have seen a few reviews that have pointed out the good charge stations that have properly considered disable and some reviews how other charge stations have clearly not properly consider disabled drivers but the focus has been pretty much only about wheel chaired drivers and nor about other disabilities

 

At the Gridserve Mega stations there are reportedly Gridserve people on hand to help in all sorts of ways which is nice but we have a long way to go to have plenty of them around.

Perhaps TESLA will do some of this, perhaps have students doing some helping out at the larger sites to provide general help. 

 

11 hours ago, Rooted said:

Public charging & the difficulty of using existing chargers and hubs is an issue for many and one not being addressed quickly enough.

It is getting attention from some in the media now. 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-67726590

 

http://bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-59549298

 

Pictures is at a Hub in Dundee where there is room, a canopy for cover in bad weather or even very sunny conditions.

The cables might help many,  the screens on the chargers still not great for wheel chair users or maybe others, not so tall etc. 

 

 

 

 

Strange, but this disability angle was one of the very points that JayEmm on Cars made in the video I posted yesterday, if anyone watches it again, pay close attention to around the 14:00 mark in the video where he raises that question. I found that there were a good number of very valid points he raised which need, again as he mentioned, urgently need addressing, including the need for ideally home charging, which is as I have repeatedly stated, is not available for a large proportion of the population throughout the UK along with price regulation.

That would be because he is a journalist and will have been reading the same stuff on EV,s and disability as I have read.  He has discussed it the same as the BBC journalists and those for the Sun, Record and the other Journals and Publishers.  Motoring journalists have the same sources.   It is not like there are many subjects within. Motoring.  Head for thinking, feet for dancing and articles written because that is how you earn your living.  But I am reading the results of the surveys I have participated in over the last year or more from various organisations.  I am part of the forums and fill in the additional questions that come in every few months on the experience with the different public charging networks.   I never heard of anyone bothering about the difficulties of the filling up of ICE vehicles other than on Disability Forums and in Lifestyle MAgazine / Notability,s publication.  Also the WAV vehicles, costs and availability is an issue.  Also the pathetic Range of EV,z / small batteries in the Light Commercial /mpv,s that are available.  

Edited 27 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

OK, all the same he is the first YouTuber I have come across that has dared to go against what the others do. He has brought those issues further into the glare of public scrutiny which has to be a positive thing, right? 

 

As to the issues with refuelling of ICE vehicles by the disabled, the situation is not as bad and apart from stations such Asda with their at pump ones, there is assistance at most stations but it does take a few minutes to arrange. This I know because my Eldest sons girlfriend is also a registered disabled driver. 

@Graham Butcher sorry but really do you know what it is to be a wheel chair user or maybe limbless, leg or arm and use filling stations.   As to the eldest sons girlfriend and not knowing her situation it might not be where she has no friends, family or carers or assistors.    There are places without supermarkets and filling stations with staff that do assist at pumps.       This is the issue really. People need to see how lots of others lives are.   There are disabled politicians.  But then they have Travel assistance if only by not having to pay out of their own pocket.  Then they might have family and friends who are disabled.  So we go back to not all disabled people do have social circles.   

Ps.  What is a Registered Disabled driver?   I have never heard of that term.   You get PIP DLA maybe.  You might get a Blue Badge.  You might qualify for VED exemption and exemption of LEZ for non compliant vehicles if VED class disabled.  You might have had a Green Card and Registered Disabled.    Many Disabled or Infirm do not get benefits, get on the Notability Scheme or want to lease from them. 

By registered disabled driver, I mean she is disabled, needs crutches and has a blue badge and a disabled parking bay outside of their house, of course. 

Edited 27 December, 20232 yr by Graham Butcher

49 minutes ago, Rooted said:

@Graham Butcher sorry but really do you know what it is to be a wheel chair user or maybe limbless, leg or arm and use filling stations.   As to the eldest sons girlfriend and not knowing her situation it might not be where she has no friends, family or carers or assistors.    There are places without supermarkets and filling stations with staff that do assist at pumps.       This is the issue really. People need to see how lots of others lives are.   There are disabled politicians.  But then they have Travel assistance if only by not having to pay out of their own pocket.  Then they might have family and friends who are disabled.  So we go back to not all disabled people do have social circles.   

That is the point that Jayem was making was it not? Yes maybe there is not enough help on hand at some filling stations, but considerably more than there is at recharge points is there not? 

 

I think you're shooting the messenger here rather than agreeing with him. 🤔

2 hours ago, Rooted said:

Ps.  What is a Registered Disabled driver?

 

No such thing as registration any more, or being a 'registered' disabled person.  There were registers, which came about as part of the Disabled Persons Employment Act of 1944.  This required Local Authorities (in England - can't vouch for Scotland) to maintain a register of disabled people in that LA area.  This is where the old Green Card system came from that you mention.  I was 'lucky' enough to have started work when 'reserved employment' was a thing - I could've been a lift operator or car park attendant 🙄.  Registering was not mandatory, and the registers themselves were wildly inaccurate (often having 5% or less of those registerable).  Without an 'I am not disabled' register, it was recognised that having a register was discriminatory in itself, and the relevant Act(s) were repealed when the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 came in 1996.  Registration continued to be recognised until 2001, but is no longer.  Curiously, a number of Local Authorities still maintain a register (of disabled people, not disabled 'driver's), when there's no expectation or requirement to do so (there are some people who continue to want their disabled person's 'card').

 

Gaz  

Edited 27 December, 20232 yr by Gaz
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15 hours ago, Rooted said:

That would be because he is a journalist and will have been reading the same stuff on EV,s and disability as I have read.  He has discussed it the same as the BBC journalists and those for the Sun, Record and the other Journals and Publishers.  Motoring journalists have the same sources. 

In what way do you say he is a journalist, is because he is a YouTuber or what? I'm not aware of him being a journalist in the published sense of the word, unlike Clarkson for instance? 

 

As far as I know, James Martin used to be a cameraman on the Car Throttle channel (maybe still is?). But he is a massive car enthusiast and decided to start his YT channel about 7 years ago and has driven/tested many different models over the years including EV's and has no axe to grind one way or the other about EV's apart from the concerns that he has already stated in the video.

 

So to me, he is just another YouTuber with a passion for cars and maybe a little more clued-up than some of the others and as such does not have to rely on clickbaits as much to get views as his channel has running for a while and is thus more established.

To me that is a motoring journalist be it in print or film.  Maybe he has a Press Pass for events. Ask him.

Writer (with no script / videographer / broadcaster / publisher / presenter, editor, producer. 

 

 

Here he is anyway, just being a Vlogger / Youtuber and covering matters important to some.

Including Disabled and charging EV,s.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited 27 December, 20232 yr by Rooted

Thanks for the link, I really enjoyed that as computers are also another thing I like, as indeed are watches, which he mentioned that many car people are also into. It was also refreshing to hear him talk about the first few years of doing YouTube where he actually said that some months he only made about £100 a month and so was far from breaking even. That again confirmed what I had seen from some other YouTubers on the electronics side, which is another thing I quite into and possibly the world's biggest electronics forum which I'm part of has discussed the earnings of the YT channel, which was also very low in the early years.

 

In reality though, he is just like the other YouTubers I follow, it started out as a passion and slowly grew into becoming a full time thing, and they are all (motoring ones at least) passionate about cars of all types, none of them are fully fledged journalists having come from a media degree or similar, they are in my view on the edge of journalism and one or two have slowly begun to get invites from manufacturers to attend the launches new models etc.

 

 

There are many points being made that are fair enough. Important stuff.

There are things being discussed many places with agencies and various authorities about the issues covered & BEV,s are certainly not suitable for all and maybe not suit those with disabilities be them drivers or passengers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some ridiculous comments being made to the vid by those without a clue.  Also ones from the more informed. 

 

 

Edited 4 January, 20251 yr by Ootohere