Servicing - Definitive Answers

[Dranny]

Hi all

 

My 2022 Kamiq is on 10900 miles, 1 year 11 months old. It needs servicing.

 

It's a lease car, due to go back soon, so I want to service it properly but not do too much.

 

This is where the fun begins. Dealers and independents all seems to recommend different.

 

Pollen filter? Brake fluid? Do these NEED doing, or is it a simple oil service?

 

I've looked for servicing data but all I see is forum posts and copies of Skoda servicing advertising. I even contacted Skoda UK who told me to speak to my dealer.

 

So, does anyone have a definitive on what needs doing at the 2 year point?

 

Thanks.

[Ootohere]

Welcome.

Follow Skoda Advice if you want to actually spend money and do it properly then.   

If you use an Independent i would expect that they need to be one that can put the Service on the online system.

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How many miles has it done?

 

If it has not been serviced in the 2 years then a Oil & Filter & Inspection service is due at 24 months or 18,000-20.000 miles.

 

Brake Fluid has been changed to @ 2 years, it was at 3 years first.  Not compulsory.

Pollen filter is at 2 years.  Never been Compulsory. 

 

It is a crazy price for the Dealer doing the pollen filter, just do it and keep the receipt.

 

That is the Fixed Service Regime. The Difference with Flexible / Variable will be that the Oil Service at 1 year was not done.

 

[Dranny]

Cheers @Rooted

 

This is what is so confusing! 🤣

 

You say the pollen filter isn't compulsory but show a diagram where it's listed as a service item on 2 years rather than maintenance.

 

Same with brake fluid being 2 years, when diagram says maintenance at 3.

 

I'm easily confused to begin with 🤔🤣

[Winston_Woof]

why not ask the leasing company what service they expect to be carried out ?

[Ootohere]

@Dranny I showed a Skoda Chart that is the guidance.   You say you want to service it properly.

 

Not a definitive guide there, because there is just the T&C,s you have signed up to that matters.

 

There are Service Plans where all is not done and Skoda Approved Used Cars with Full Main Dealer Service Histories that have not had everything done to the Recommendations, Guidelines, Spec or Schedules.

[Dranny]

Needs to be serviced in line with manufacturers requirements.

 

Getting said requirements is the difficulty.

[Winston_Woof]

well if you can't find a definitive answer how can the leasing company ;o)

[Ootohere]

They can if they want do what you can. 

Ask the Dealership / Approved Repairers to print out what your car shows for @ 2 years.

 

That will be OIl Inspection Service, it might have Pollen Filter on it, it might have Brake Fluid, but that can probably be treated like AC Service.  Not required actually, just advised.

 

Extended Scope is first at 3 years. 

Edited 22 April by Rooted

[marineboy]

I’ve just made an appointment with Skoda dealer for my first service, which will be at 10k miles and 2 years. I was asked re pollen filter and brake fluid change and declined both. Pollen filter you can change yourself in 5 minutes. Re brake fluid, I had my previous Golf for 9 years from new.  When the warranty expired I got it serviced at a long established and well respected independent garage. I asked re brake fluid changes and the proprietor said he would do it if I wanted but he had never changed the fluid on all the cars he had ever owned and regarded it as unnecessary. When I sold the car after 9 years and 70k miles the brake pedal feel and braking performance were as good as new. But it’s your money and your choice. 

[Ootohere]

@marineboy  Not the OP,s car though.  So the owners had them accept the T&C,s.

 

As to Brake Fluid and feeling as good as when new.   Yes that might well be true when the brakes are not used hard, maybe on hill roads with spirited driving maybe not on Alpine Passes in High Summer.  (That refers to something VW puts in advice on Oil usage).

 

Many might not notice any brake fade or overheating of brakes / brake fluid and poorer brake performance, UK max speed limit on Single Carriageways being 60 mph.

What can happen is the XDS /XDS + might inhibit / disable it,s self, just as it can with track use.

[Allesandu]

On 22/04/2024 at 20:15, Dranny said:

 

You say the pollen filter isn't compulsory

Pollen filter is you health and clean air in the car.

Take a look at yours one and you will be unpleasant surprise due to it dirty condition.

I change the pollen filter by myself every year.

[Ootohere]

Or maybe a pleasant surprise at 11,000 miles in 24 months.  Location location location.

 

It is easy and cheap to replace.   Easy at dealerships where they might just replace.

 

DIY you might want to clean / wash the area after vacuuming any Stoor (Dust / grot), disinfect. 

 

Some come out clean enough that a good shake, and a vacuum or blow through with an airline is enough.    Cheap skates.

[MickA]

I've just bought my Kamiq, so far it's brilliant but with a few niggles. The aircon to me didn't seem to be putting out very cold air, sorted with my local aircon man. He found it necessary to top the gas up slightly and also found an electrical connection had become disconnected, all back to working well. I should have checked the pollen first too, now changed for £10. The original (don't think ever changed from new) was really manky and black. 

Car was serviced in February by a Skoda dealer then whoever had it traded it in. See one of my other posts re brake pad wear, I just need to refresh the front pads/discs now, ordered some Brembo parts.

 

One question I've not found an answer to, which engine oil do I use? Is it 5w 30 or 0w 40, I'll be changing it annually myself after probably 6-7k miles?

[Ootohere]

@MickA  If a TSI you can use VW504 00 / 507 00 for Fixed servicing or Variable, so likely 5w 30 FS III or 0w 30 FS III.

Or for Fixed VW502 00,   5w 40 FS or if you find any 0w 40 FS.

 

If i TDI it is VW 504 00 / 507 for Fixed or Variable.   VW507 00  being what is required.

[MickA]

29 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

@MickA  If a TSI you can use VW504 00 / 507 00 for Fixed servicing or Variable, so likely 5w 30 FS III or 0w 30 FS III.

Or for Fixed VW502 00,   5w 40 FS or if you find any 0w 40 FS.

 

If i TDI it is VW 504 00 / 507 for Fixed or Variable.   VW507 00  being what is required.

 

That's what I was going to settle with until....

I read on and it's recommended...

0w 20 LL IV to VW spec 508.00 VW 509.00, that's Castrol Edge  or Mobil 1.

I used 5w 30 in my 1.2tsi SEAT (Castrol LL) to VW spec and was all set to go for the same in the petrol Kamiq.

Confused.com.

Don't know what's been used previously, no details apart from it's have services. The manuals no help, only mentioned an alternative if you need top ups, not actually what should be in there🤔

 

Edited 28 April by MickA

[Ootohere]

That is not backward compatible.   If you do not say what engine or year your car is then giving answers is not so easy. 

 

Rapid.

Pre 2018 you are not wanting VW508 00 / 509 00,  & not with a 1.2 TSI, or a 1.0TSI pre GPF. 

 

Petrol Kamiq very likely is VW508 00 / 509 00. 

 And as for Fixed Service they do not tell you.  But it need not be long life oil.

 

VW508 00 / 509 00    0w20 FS IV comes from many many oil producers other than Castrol, Quantum / Fuchs. Mobile. & approved by VW Group.

 

 

Edited 28 April by Ootohere

[MickA]

48 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

That is not backward compatible.   If you do not say what engine or year your car is then giving answers is not so easy. 

 

Rapid.

Pre 2018 you are not wanting VW508 00 / 509 00,  & not with a 1.2 TSI, or a 1.0TSI pre GPF. 

 

Petrol Kamiq very likely is VW508 00 / 509 00. 

 And as for Fixed Service they do not tell you.  But it need not be long life oil.

 

VW508 00 / 509 00    0w20 FS IV comes from many many oil producers other than Castrol, Quantum / Fuchs. Mobile. & approved by VW Group.

 

 

Thanks for the info

I think I've got it now but just for clarification....

I've got a 1L 85kw petrol Kamiq.

Understand all petrol Kamiqs take the same oil.

So 0w 20 of whatever brand (I'm going for Castrol Edge) to VW spec 508.00 509.00.

[Ootohere]

The chart is there showing what they recommend then for a 1.0 TSI and if yours is 2019 on it shows what they say about using VW504 instead of VW508.

If you did use VW504, or if i did i would use 0w 30 FS III. 

 

Go Castrol Edge if you want. 

 It is not what UK main dealers might use these days. They might use Quantum which comes from Fuchs. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 28 April by Ootohere

[MickA]

58 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

The chart is there showing what they recommend then for a 1.0 TSI and if yours is 2019 on it shows what they say about using VW504 instead of VW508.

If you did use VW504, or if i did i would use 0w 30 FS III. 

 

Go Castrol Edge if you want. 

 It is not what UK main dealers might use these days. They might use Quantum which comes from Fuchs. 

 

 

 

 

So why would you use a 0w 30 when it's clear here to use a 0w 20?

https://tps.trade/oil-search

[nta16]

50 minutes ago, MickA said:

So why would you use a 0w 30 when it's clear here to use a 0w 20?

If it is 0W-20 then VW's trying to get another nth degree of (pretend) mpg.  VW engines are more on the badger's arse end of refinement, a new Toyota might use 0w-8 (don't try that in your VW but you'd probably see even better mpg on the car's computer figures).

 

All databases and sources of information have errors and omissions including those from the manufacturers and off the internet, do check and cross reference any information you get with if possible two other reliable sources of information.  Database errors and omissions are often copied from one place to others and further errors and omissions can be added. 

 

If I was more concerned about mpg than how long the engine lasts as I wasn't keeping the car for however long it might be capable of lasting (engine/car) then I might use 0w-20 and if I was really concerned about mpg and having the engine last a bit long I might use a very good 0w-20 (probably not the Castrol, though many would disagree).

 

If I was more concerned about the engine lasting a bit longer and not so concerned was the nth degree of mpg figures (real or not) I'd use a very good quality 0w-30 or a very good quality 5w-30 possibly even the Castrol.

 

I personally (others will disagree) don't worry too much about the VW ever changing oil number like 5-wotever approval but there will be loads of oils meeting the approval or VW number anyway if you're worried about such things or a VW fan then just make sure the oil meets VW's (ever changing) (current) approval.

 

It's your car, your choice you can decide, there's lots of oils available, if the 0w-20 is correct and you want the full loyalty stamps for a 0w-20 get the one with the car group in the name - Castrol EDGE Professional LL IV FE 0w-20 (VAG) Fully Synthetic Engine Oil.

 

 

4 hours ago, MickA said:

Confused.com.

VW = Very Wirr (German for confused)  😁

[nta16]

On 22/04/2024 at 18:33, Dranny said:

Needs to be serviced in line with manufacturers requirements.

 

Getting said requirements is the difficulty.

As put already VW make things very confusing, if you go to the Dealerships for the Oil & Inspection Service that will give you the service plus they will look for any other chargeable work they can find (required or possibly not, required soon or perhaps in the more distant future) so that covers anything anyway, they do "free health checks" whenever they can whenever the car is in there for whatever reason anyway - and these "free health checks" look for any other chargeable work they can find (required or possibly not, required soon or perhaps in the more distant future) so that covers anything anyway,

 

Most think an engine oil change is a (whole) car service, including those at lease companies.

 

 

On 22/04/2024 at 17:01, Dranny said:

My 2022 Kamiq is on 10900 miles, 1 year 11 months old. It needs servicing.

Yes at 109k-miles it might need some stuff doing. 😁

 

[sussamb]

10900 isn't 109K

[SurreyJohn]

@Dranny  Generally with a lease car you can hand it back few days early and avoid having to do the service.  The lease rules normally say it can be showing a  service countdown advance warning reminder (due in X days or Y miles), but not Service now or Service.

 

The basis is must be serviced when due, if not yet due then don't have to have done a service prior to handback.

 

 

Edited 29 April by SurreyJohn

[nta16]

7 hours ago, sussamb said:

10900 isn't 109K

Sorry, I should 've went to SpecSavers, twice I read that as 109000.  Doh!

 

 

7 hours ago, SurreyJohn said:

@Dranny  Generally with a lease car you can hand it back few days early and avoid having to do the service.  The lease rules normally say it can be showing a  service countdown advance warning reminder (due in X days or Y miles), but not Service now or Service.

 

The basis is must be serviced when due, if not yet due then don't have to have done a service prior to handback.

 

 

Great point, I never thought of that for one.