I have seen there was a very similar post to this a few years ago but I'd like to know if people do get their gear oil changed.

 

I have a 2020 Octavia with a 7-speed transmission.  So that makes it s dry clutch system.  Can I therefore forget about changing the oil or is it best to do it?  When I was buying my car (in 2021) I found some info from Skoda that recommended a DSG oil change every 40k/4 years.  It had a cost of £215 from a Skoda dealer.  Do I need this?  Should I go elsewhere to get it cheaper?

 

My gears appear to be slightly misbehaving at the moment and I had thought it might be the oil, until I did some research here.  Nothing I can put my finger on, but not as slick as usual.

 

Your thoughts and suggestions are much appreciated.

@erehwon13 having a 7;speed DSG does not mean it is a DQ200 dry clutch.  There are wet clutch 7 speeds fitted to 2.0 TSI or TDI,s or AWD.  So what engine have you. 1.5 TSI or a 1.6 TDI?     No oil change needed if you have a DQ200 and there are 2 oils.    If you have a DQ381 then the service guidelines are at 80,000 miles. But £215 is a price from a few years back.  And I would not wait till 80,000 miles. 

Edited 21 August, 20241 yr by Ootohere

Good point about engine size. I had forgotten about that bit.  I have a 1.5 TSI.  So definitely no oil change then.

Thanks for your help @Ootohere

Ignore the official advice and get the oils changed, both transmission and mechatronic @ 40k. Having seen the state of the oil from my DQ200 it is certainly worth doing.

£215 is not a bad price but a good indy would likely do it a bit cheaper.  

 

Edited 21 August, 20241 yr by Gammyleg

Thanks @Gammyleg.  I think I might well do that.

Helpful Thread!

I bought my 2016 Skoda Octavia L&K hatch (2.0L, DQ250 - 6 Speed DSG) from Northampton Marshall Skoda at 51,000 miles. Being my first Skoda, I relied on the dealership’s claim that their VW-trained mechanics had serviced and maintained the car according to the manufacturer's guidelines.

 

As the second owner, I later discovered that despite the previous owner always servicing the car at this dealership, they had never changed the DSG fluid, which should have been done at 40,000 miles according to service intervals. They didn’t mention this when I bought the car, possibly to save themselves £100-£200.

 

The following year, during a service at the same dealership, they finally informed me that the DSG fluid needed changing. Fortunately, I hadn’t driven much due to the COVID-19 lockdown. I learned more about Skoda service intervals through this forum and have since avoided that dealership.

 

Now, with my car at 80,000 miles, I’m getting the DSG fluid changed again, but this time at a local garage. They asked me to supply the DSG fluid and filter parts.

 

I found a good deal on Amazon: Castrol Transmax DUAL (6L) and febi bilstein 44176 (filter + ring) for £95. Has anyone here used these products before? Any feedback/opinions??

Edited 9 October, 20241 yr by Chathura

49 minutes ago, Chathura said:

 

Possible match but for some reason the Castrol spec misses the 'A2' ref at the end of the specification. Not sure if that's is an issue or not.

Edited 9 October, 20241 yr by Gammyleg

2 hours ago, Chathura said:

Now, with my car at 80,000 miles, I’m getting the DSG fluid changed again, but this time at a local garage. They asked me to supply the DSG fluid and filter parts.

This rings warning bells for me and I recommend caution.

This is just my opinion, but I would take it to a garage where the mechanics are able to source their own parts for the gearbox service.

It's not a particularly complicated or difficult job, but it does need to be done absolutely correctly, and it sounds like your local garage are not entirely confident they know what they're doing, but have decided it should be easy enough and there's a decent margin in it. Any subsequent problems they can blame on you for supplying them with the "wrong" oil or filter.

32 minutes ago, EnterName said:

This rings warning bells for me and I recommend caution.

This is just my opinion, but I would take it to a garage where the mechanics are able to source their own parts for the gearbox service.

It's not a particularly complicated or difficult job, but it does need to be done absolutely correctly, and it sounds like your local garage are not entirely confident they know what they're doing, but have decided it should be easy enough and there's a decent margin in it. Any subsequent problems they can blame on you for supplying them with the "wrong" oil or filter.

 

They actually can source the parts. As an option, they allow customers to bring those if customers have preferences.

 

Once I myself got the engine oil changed to the correct specification by them when a different garage had used slightly a wrong spec (5W-30 instead of 5W-30 LL). Therefore, they asked me to bring the right products if I prefer that option when I want to change Transmission fluid. 

 

After my experiences with the Marshall Skoda Northampton dealership garage, I realised that I cannot always trust someone just because they are well-known as the specialists. If the so-called "manufacturer trained mechanics" do not know when to change the DSG fluid or Timing belt, I don't even know what are the products that they actually use. In those places, I have to just leave the car and come home and wait until they say "it's ready". The good thing with this local garage is that I can ask anything and everything is very transparent. I have the peace of mind knowing that the products with the right specifications have been used.

Edited 9 October, 20241 yr by Chathura

2 hours ago, Gammyleg said:

Possible match but for some reason the Castrol spec misses the 'A2' ref at the end of the specification. Not sure if that's is an issue or not.

 

They just confirmed to me that the extension A2 is the code for the 1 litre package; but the G 052 182 is the actual product specification.

27 minutes ago, Chathura said:

They actually can source the parts. As an option, they allow customers to bring those if customers have preferences.

 

Once I myself got the engine oil changed to the correct specification by them when a different garage had used slightly a wrong spec (5W-30 instead of 5W-30 LL). Therefore, they asked me to bring the right products if I prefer that option when I want to change Transmission fluid. 

Okay, fair enough. 👍

47 minutes ago, Chathura said:

 

They actually can source the parts. As an option, they allow customers to bring those if customers have preferences.

 

Once I myself got the engine oil changed to the correct specification by them when a different garage had used slightly a wrong spec (5W-30 instead of 5W-30 LL). Therefore, they asked me to bring the right products if I prefer that option when I want to change Transmission fluid. 

 

After my experiences with the Marshall Skoda Northampton dealership garage, I realised that I cannot always trust someone just because they are well-known as the specialists. If the so-called "manufacturer trained mechanics" do not know when to change the DSG fluid or Timing belt, I don't even know what are the products that they actually use. In those places, I have to just leave the car and come home and wait until they say "it's ready". The good thing with this local garage is that I can ask anything and everything is very transparent. I have the peace of mind knowing that the products with the right specifications have been used.

I'd get in writing that the products you have supplied are are correct and if anything goes wrong they can't say the wrong products were supplied.

18 minutes ago, ords said:

I'd get in writing that the products you have supplied are are correct and if anything goes wrong they can't say the wrong products were supplied.

 

Agree, but I'm not sure by who.  I think @EnterName 's first comment about caution still stands.  Not from the fluid as it's a DQ250, so G052 182 is correct, but for the filter and ring as any failure either in the product or installation could be neatly side stepped with a don't look at us, you supplied it.  I think there's a difference between '..they allow customers..' and '..they asked me to bring the right products..' - do they doubt their ability to get it 'right'?  If they can source the parts, why are they asking the customer to, other than to put on the invoice 'fitted customer supplied parts' or words to the effect of?

 

I'm such a suspicious old git! 🙄

 

Gaz

 

Edited 9 October, 20241 yr by Gaz

59 minutes ago, Gaz said:

 

Agree, but I'm not sure by who.  I think @EnterName 's first comment about caution still stands.  Not from the fluid as it's a DQ250, so G052 182 is correct, but for the filter and ring as any failure either in the product or installation could be neatly side stepped with a don't look at us, you supplied it.  I think there's a difference between '..they allow customers..' and '..they asked me to bring the right products..' - do they doubt their ability to get it 'right'?  If they can source the parts, why are they asking the customer to, other than to put on the invoice 'fitted customer supplied parts' or words to the effect of?

 

I'm such a suspicious old git! 🙄

 

Gaz

 

I'm with you on this, @Gaz.

There may be different suppliers of the correct oil and filter & other seals etc., but there seems no point in supplying them yourself when your garage should be able to supply the correct items themselves.

Something's not quite as it should be, there. Either you trust your garage to do the job right, or you don't.

Personally, if I didn't trust my garage, I'd  go elsewhere. I wouldn't feel comfortable if I felt I needed to oversee them and ensure they used the right parts.

I can't imagine the mechanics at the garage are over the moon about it, either.

1 hour ago, Gaz said:

 

Agree, but I'm not sure by who.  I think @EnterName 's first comment about caution still stands.  Not from the fluid as it's a DQ250, so G052 182 is correct, but for the filter and ring as any failure either in the product or installation could be neatly side stepped with a don't look at us, you supplied it.  I think there's a difference between '..they allow customers..' and '..they asked me to bring the right products..' - do they doubt their ability to get it 'right'?  If they can source the parts, why are they asking the customer to, other than to put on the invoice 'fitted customer supplied parts' or words to the effect of?

 

I'm such a suspicious old git! 🙄

 

Gaz

 

Get it agreed by the garage doing the job.