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Mk 3 skoda fabia 2019 1.0 TSI estate, replaced the drop links on this car a few weeks ago with uprated meyle units due to a slight knocking on certain bumps in the road that has now gone but while working on the car noticed that the wishbone rear rubber bush has a slight split in the rubber, not yet crcked or pulled away from the metal but will need changing in the next 6-12 months, on my mk2 I replaced these type rubbers a few times with splitting but found that a seat cupre solid bush fitted and when these wee fitted lasted many years compared to the dealer bush with the 2 vent like holes so was wondering is there a solid bush that is available for this arm perhaps that VW  use for a sports model that would also fit this type of arm on my fabia any help would be appreciated thanks

You can fit the polyurethane ones.

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Poly bushes are useless they do not last and performance is rubbish tried them on my old MK2 Fabia threw them away and then fitted Seat Cupra solid bushes improved handeling and lasted 5 years untill car was written off by uninsurured driver only noticed slight vibration if you were going slow in a high gear but who drives like that, was looking for a solid rubber one instead of these with holes in the sides they are not listed for this model but some times peole know what others to fit

I got one replaced under new warranty on my wife’s August 2015 VW Polo at just under the 2 years old point as I had noticed it had a tear in it.

Then a month or so ago I replaced both sides as the original RHS one had the centre metal bush broken free from the rubber, the other side that had been replaced at the 2 year point, looked okay apart from slight cosmetic delaminating.

 

After examining the RHS one, when out/off the car, it’s centre metal bush was tilted and the hole in the rubber had permanently deformed to look “egg” shaped, it had been causing a bit of a knock at times.

 

I’ve just written that so that it can be seen that these mountings can last at least 30,000miles/7 years - depending on use.

 

I had always set my mind on fitting solid versions but was concerned about NVH, I did get. a VAG indie to replace the torn console bushes in my wife’s old 2002 VW Polo and they worked very well that was on a Petrol engined Polo.

 

I’m not at home at the moment so I can’t offer you any part numbers of the solid versions, but I will try to do that tonight.

11 hours ago, Murdockman said:

Poly bushes are useless they do not last and performance is rubbish tried them on my old MK2 Fabia

With car parts (and cars) it depends a lot on the manufacture(r) for the quality, some may be very good and others not.  On other makes of car the bushes may last much longer and not need replacing at this age.  My wife's 2015 Fabia has clunk/knock (and had poor quality factory-fitted front dampers replaced a few years back) but as I've read on here others have replaced a series of parts for the noise to remain so I very begrudgingly put up with it.  MoT time soon so we'll see if there's more expense from lower quality factory-fitted suspension parts.

 

Copied from info that I collected a few years ago when I first looked into buying a tool to press out/press in new TCA rear mounting bushes.

 

"Lemforder list p/n 2111301 for 1J0 407 181, but also list 357801 as a replacement for 6R0 407 181 B which seems to be the “sports suspension” equivalent part, or the Golf R32/Audi TT part 8N0 407 181B, Lemforder list p/n 2713201 same as Meyle HD 100 407 0073/HD or Febi 26535.

Ie, stock bush Polo is 1J0 407 181, stock bush Ibiza Cupra Bush 6R0 407 181 B"

 

I bought my new (voided) bushes from ECP and they were Lemforder but also had the VW Group part number moulded onto them, I did not check if ECP sell the other versions.

 

Edit:- listed for the 2023 Fabia is 2Q0 407 183 B, in the comments field is "60" and the nominal OD of the bushes that I bought and fitted to the 2015 VW Polo 1.2TSI 110PS was also 60mm, so I reckon that this newer version is the same but modified from the original one, to add some confidence to that suggestion, the fixing bolt for the 2023 Fabia is the same as it is for the 2015 VW Polo, so maybe that is another option to stiffen things up and gain more reliability than changing to the solid version - though fitting the solid version is simpler as there is no "rotational" requirements.

 

Another Edit:- maybe give that newer version a miss unless you can confirm that the length of the centre steel bush is the same as for the earlier versions, the ebay pics of the Lemforder equivalent part does make me think that the centre steel bush is longer than the earlier ones.

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12 hours ago, nta16 said:

With car parts (and cars) it depends a lot on the manufacture(r) for the quality, some may be very good and others not.  On other makes of car the bushes may last much longer and not need replacing at this age.  My wife's 2015 Fabia has clunk/knock (and had poor quality factory-fitted front dampers replaced a few years back) but as I've read on here others have replaced a series of parts for the noise to remain so I very begrudgingly put up with it.  MoT time soon so we'll see if there's more expense from lower quality factory-fitted suspension parts.

 

No noise now after replacing the drop links but noticed that the rear wishbone rubbers were starting to slightly split, as mentioned before on my old MK2 i replaced these with a set of Seat Cupra solid bushes which lasted many years until the car was written off hence we boufght this MK3 the old MK2 had the big bushes on the end of the wishbone these are a steel wishbone with the bush horisontal 

Yes, the vertical bushes are easier to replace than the old horizontal ones - well for a DIYer anyway.

They do a full solid version. I did an inspection on a 2012 A1 today and it had original solid bushes.

2 hours ago, Blue8793841 said:

They do a full solid version. I did an inspection on a 2012 A1 today and it had original solid bushes.

Oh yes, the ones I mentioned earlier for Golf R32 and Audi TT are solid as are the Cupra ones.

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Hi all posted a week or so ago about suspensuion bushes, the noise was from the drop links but noticed that the rear bush on the wishbone/control arm was starting to split. Was looking to replace these with the better slid ones like I did on my old MK2 but was not sure about the part numbers for the MK3, I have now sorted the issue with a solid bush from Meyle part number is  Meyle   100 407 0073/HD, these bushes are not listed for the Skoda but for Audi A1  and Audi TT 2012 but they are a perfect fit for the pressed steel arm that's fitted to my 2019 

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1 minute ago, Murdockman said:

Hi all posted a week or so ago about suspensuion bushes, the noise was from the drop links but noticed that the rear bush on the wishbone/control arm was starting to split. Was looking to replace these with the better solid ones like I did on my old MK2 but was not sure about the part numbers for the MK3, I have now sorted the issue with a solid bush from Meyle part number is  Meyle   100 407 0073/HD, these bushes are not listed for the Skoda but for Audi A1  and Audi TT 2012 but they are a perfect fit for the pressed steel arm that's fitted to my 2019 just to add I replaced both sides I did it myself with a kit from ebay universal ball joint kit with various types of sleeves and fittings the car now seems to be better on uneven roads and up to now not noticed any undue vibration at slower speeds

 

 

What surprised me when I removed the mountings from my wife's 2015 Polo with 50,000miles, was, the righthand side mounting, which was a factory fitted original one, the rubber had become very hard, there has been no tearing, but the central metal bush has been permanently deforming the solid rubber at the inner and other side of it, and so had created an oval bore, maybe 4mm clearance side to side/left<>right - well oval at the top and bottom, probably still near enough a circle and a tight fit to that metal bush at half depth point, so plenty free movement available as the suspension moved up and down, and no signs of any tearing - as I had thought would happen, anywhere on that mounting.

 

Edit:- that Meyle part number is still the same as the Meyle part number I included in my pasting further up this thread.

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The newer models have a revised bush with a thicker ferrule, which seems to wear worse than the old type.

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