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This might well account for poor state of UK roads, when is a toll road not publicly displayed as a toll road?

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Just watched this video and if true (no reason to doubt otherwise) then this just highlights the problems of poor decisions our politicians make and how much they manage to squirrel away from the public purse in the long term, preventing other more important uses of the public money. I'm not saying that any politician benefits directly from these decisions, but I suspect that many have had their ears bent back by some of the well known think tanks, which are nothing more than lobby groups for already wealthy clients looking to become even wealthier, in my opinion. Any thoughts on this?

 

 

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  • Graham Butcher changed the title to This might well account for poor state of UK roads, when is a toll road not publicly displayed as a toll road?

Bloody scandalous - they’ve kept these nice little earners quiet haven’t they…….

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Correct, that's why I don't trust a word they say, look at what is happening now. Then think about the claims of air pollution, price of electric etc, can you trust them to tell the truth? 

23 hours ago, Graham Butcher said:

Correct, that's why I don't trust a word they say, look at what is happening now. Then think about the claims of air pollution, price of electric etc, can you trust them to tell the truth? 

I don’t listen to a single politician about air pollution and the likes of “climate change” when they go ahead and approve building houses on fields, it literally doesn’t add up.

 

That guy done a video about my local motorway, good laugh he is 👍

It answers the question another Vlogger asked about cameras and speculating on what and why. 

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22 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

It answers the question another Vlogger asked about cameras and speculating on what and why. 

Not sure what your saying here?

'Geoff buys cars' is a vlogger that speculates on cameras and their purpose.  You do know who I mean do you not?   

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What has that got to do with video about the A1M? 

It is about roads elsewhere as well where the general public pay for private public partnerships for traffic on roads in England.   What had it specifically to do with MK3 Skoda Superbs?

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8 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

It is about roads elsewhere as well where the general public pay for private public partnerships for traffic on roads in England.   What had it specifically to do with MK3 Skoda Superbs?

Well it looks like I accidentally posted in the wrong section, oops, sorry.
 

The video that Geoff Buys Cars posted is completely on a different topic to this one and there is absolutely no connection between the two as you should know, if you watched the video, did you? I already know that you no longer watch Geoff's video, which is a real shame, as you will discover when the system rolls out, and also just what the system is capable of.

I watched the video posted when first on you tube.  Interesting.  Public private funded partnerships.  Your pay per mile you posted about as well might well come.  And seat belt cameras, mobile phones, as well as the ability to automatically slow vehicles with the latest technology fitted.   So much tech about and the cost of transport private or commercial.   Someone has to pay, or get caught out infringing UK laws. 

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28 minutes ago, Ootohere said:

I watched the video posted when first on you tube.  Interesting.  Public private funded partnerships.  Your pay per mile you posted about as well might well come.  And seat belt cameras, mobile phones, as well as the ability to automatically slow vehicles with the latest technology fitted.   So much tech about and the cost of transport private or commercial.   Someone has to pay, or get caught out infringing UK laws. 

Well if you watched the video, 5 days ago when it first came out, then you will of course also be aware of the total cost to the taxpayer over the length of the contract is many tens of times more than it would have cost the taxpayer if the government had "borrowed" the money in the first place. Add in the extra costs on all the hedge funds funded roads and there is a massive great sinkhole that the public money is going into and explains why our roads are crumbling to bits.

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ehem

Please refer to this I posted way back on the 30th July.....................

 

 

@Graham Butcher Scottish Labour and lib Dems in Scotland did the same with the likes of the Skye Bridge and hospital car parks etc.  The contracts ended up being bought back after their financed amount was paid many times over so yes I know the waste of money.  Hospitals, schools etc are still being paid back 10,s of times over.    These roads payments are from the Westminster treasury and the UK road users and non road users are paying.     Scotland has to pay for roads and bridges and not the General UK purse. 

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@Ootohere well, that was the whole point of my posting that video, and also of I think fair to say, much the same with @Winston_Woof posting as well. This is why I look for other alternative motives when ever the governments of the world propose things that are going to directly affect just about everybody. It pays to follow the money trail if you can and that often reveals some dubious connections and goings-on. I'm not conspiracy theorist who wears a tin foil hat, and there are plenty who are, like those that think that 5G network is a weapon of mind control, or LEDs are also another weapon etc. I just believe that is not wise to just swallow what the narrative is hook line and sinker. 

England kept voting in parties that are incompetent as they are.  Scotland does the same with their governments but get landed also with the Westminster government as voted in by RofUk.      The Skye Bridge was the most expensive toll road in Europe.    There is corruption and waste everywhere because of politicians and others that can not run their own lives but run countries.      Any change due any time soon?     Are the Labour government going to break the contracts and buy out those to that hold all the cards,?     Will the people revolt?   Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland have lovely stretched of road EU funded.   Just stretched.  Fancy walls, sculptures and unnessery crap obviously.   Money was plentiful for the few.   For haulage of fish, timber etc, sometimes crawler lanes or passing places, but expensive ones. 

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It's symptomatic of the short termism in western governments. they need to show return or improvement within a 4yr cycle so consideration of a 10-50yr cost is very rarely considered.
For a politician better to get the road built now for nothing then to borrow £200M, even if it'll cost billions over decades. the long term is always someone elses problem.

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