Fellow Skodians, I would like your help:

 

1) I have an old type key with a separate alarm remote control with only 2 buttons something like this:

 

 

and I want to make it foldable with a control together like this one here:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I put another brand (better alarm) for example a Viper

 

 

can that controller easily be "copied" to the (aftermarket) folding one?

 

2) For sure don't have a button for the trunk, to raise the trunk is a matter of the construction of the car or the ability of the alarm?

I have seen brands with they remote control with this capability

https://d.scdn.gr/images/sku_images/022199/22199607/20180913162517_ad8bd3d1.jpeg

Can that kind of alarm work alongside with my car?

 

Also i have seen folding ones with 3+1 buttons like this one here:

 

 

Can i have (with a different alarm system) a key like this for my Felicia?

 

PS: I don't want keyless entry or start the car from distance.

There is no better alarm than the original laser line 989 if they could be combined in one key though that would be nice

5 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

and I want to make it foldable with a control together like this one here:

Yes, I'm in the process of doing this (although I've been doing this on and off for 2 years and still not finished it)

The only thing is that I've used a cheap Chinese system, very similar to this one https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150967239571 

Also a warning that these cheap "HAA" key blades will eventually snap, so will need changing for better quality blades.

 

4 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

can that controller easily be "copied" to the (aftermarket) folding one?

Generally the alarm system has a learning mode to learn the signal from new/additional keys/key fobs (but again that is the Chinese types) It

depends if this "better type" of alarm system allows this or not.

Just thinking, if you have the instructions for your current system, you may be able to have it learn the signal from new key fobs.

Don't forget you would need to buy new blank immobilizer chips to put in the new folding key, and then have them copied/coded from old keys.

10 hours ago, R_U_AFA said:

Don't forget you would need to buy new blank immobilizer chips to put in the new folding key, and then have them copied/coded from old keys.

 

I don't want to take the risk, i will go to a local Locksmith for this task

Example: https://keystation.co.uk/car-keys-parts/conversion-cases?srsltid=AfmBOoq4lWz6O1gNd-G5dEag0CsHSdvuaBTlgA-T9g5SwId7Ie1Vf_q5

so in case of something goes wrong in the future to to know who to turn to.

 

11 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

There is no better alarm than the original laser line 989

 

To raise the trunk is a matter of the construction of the car or the ability of the alarm?

Some key fobs can also open the hood (bonnet in english as @nta16 says), this also is from the car characteristics or from the alarm?

1 minute ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

To raise the trunk is a matter of the construction of the car or the ability of the alarm?

no it cant be since those are cable operated on our cars

1 hour ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

no it cant be since those are cable operated on our cars

 

Oh, so there it goes away the No2. 😪

Your alarm is this?

https://oil-stores.gr/laserline-diairoymenos-syn-mos-aytokinitoy

2 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

no it cant be since those are cable operated on our cars

 

You can mount an electric motor to actuate the lock to operate it with the remote. Or add a mechanism to unlock the truck with the rest of the car (which Is what I did since Skoda decided to use the second button on the remote in the most useless way possible)

Edited 2 September, 20241 yr by Papez

2 hours ago, Papez said:

You can mount an electric motor to actuate the lock to operate it with the remote. Or add a mechanism to unlock the truck with the rest of the car (which Is what I did since Skoda decided to use the second

Yes, I've done this aswell, but unlock with just the trunk button.

 

If you look at the truck release mechanism it has 2 locations for the release cable to fit (it depends on if it's LHD or RHD which one is used, and it's just a case of using the non used location for your chosen release method)

I must admit there was quite a bit of extra work involved in getting this feature working for not much in return, because I've stopped locking the trunk with the key now anyhow.

45 minutes ago, R_U_AFA said:

 I've stopped locking the trunk with the key now anyhow.

 

When you lock your car with the alarm the trunk does not lock too?

The way I have it set up, then No, not mechanically.

It's hard to explain. There is a difference to consider between the trunk being "shut" and being "locked"

Basically if I press the trunk release button on the folding key, it replicates what the release cable at the side of the drivers seat does.

So if you imagine the trunk can be locked with the key so no-one can open the trunk by pressing the button where the key fits (as normal with any Felicia/favorit)

Now

Pressing the trunk button on folding key fob "pops" the trunk the same way the release cable does.

 

Pressing the trunk release button on the key fob again now does nothing, because it trunk is now ajar.

 

Now the trunk door needs to be physically shut.

 

The trunk is now "shut" and "locked" (so long as the key position in the trunk door hasn't changed)

 

During this process I haven't mentioned at which points the alarm is armed or disarmed to make it more simple.

 

So

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

When you lock your car with the alarm the trunk does not lock too?

It just locks,1x drivers door, 3x passenger doors. And monitors if there is unauthorized opening of the trunk.

18 hours ago, R_U_AFA said:

It just locks,1x drivers door, 3x passenger doors. And monitors if there is unauthorized opening of the trunk.

 

The lock in the trunk's button is always vertical and not horizontal in purspose.

I lock the car via alarm's remote control, 4 doors hood trunk are locked, if you push the trunk's button nothing will happen.

If someone manage to open any of these plus the tailgate (aka 5th door here in GR) the alarm sounds.

If i lock the car via key and the lock is vertical then the tailgate can not be open, if i turn the key and let it horizontal then any one can push the button and open the tailgate.

Many times in the car wash i forgot the lock vertical and as the Pakistanian employee has opened all the doors he tries desperately to open the tailgate but no matter how he pushes the button nothing happens, then i point to him the lever to pull it.

 

I don't know those aftermarket folder keys are durable as the stock?

I there any possibility to crack after few months of use?

 

Edited 3 September, 20241 yr by D.FYLAKTOS

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

don't know those aftermarket folder keys are durable as the stock?

The Chinese ones are rubbish.

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

there any possibility to crack after few months of use?

Yes, they will eventually snap, it happened to me.

Better quality ones are available, and can be swapped over.

 

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

lock the car via alarm's remote control, 4 doors hood trunk are locked, if you push the trunk's button nothing will happen.

Mine is the same as this, with the exception that hood isn't alarmed, and there is a motor to actuate the trunk release mechanism when trunk button pressed(pressing trunk button also disarms alarm).

 

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

i turn the key and let it horizontal then any one can push the button and open the tailgate.

This is the way I leave the car now, it allows thieves to open trunk to see there is nothing to steal, and saves them smashing a window.

Edited - now a redundant post. 

Edited 3 September, 20241 yr by nta16

11 hours ago, nta16 said:

YOU want to modify your description of anyone at a car wash

 

Where is the problem?

The majority of car wash stores here are foreigners mainly with Pakistani and some Sikh employees, gently people and good work.

I am customer to them for years, no complaints.

 

13 hours ago, R_U_AFA said:

and there is a motor to actuate the trunk release mechanism

 

Bought it new or it's a donator from other car?

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

Where is the problem?

The majority of car wash stores here are foreigners mainly with Pakistani and some Sikh employees, gently people and good work.

I am customer to them for years, no complaints.

This is a UK English language site, the shortened version of the word is a very offensive bigoted racist slur in the UK also used by very violent extreme right thugs and organisations.

Take out the judgemental words like bigoted, racist, extreme right thugs and you are left with a contraction of someones nationality which some may take offence at being used, if the person taking offence is a Pakistani and the words are spoken to him then knowing the context and the way the words are spoken they can make that judgement.

 

@D.FYLAKTOS I do not consider you a racist, a bigot or a far right thug for using a  once widespread contraction of a persons nationality any more than I would take offence if you called me a Brit, on the other hand I could understand you being offended by someone telling you not once but 3 times what 'you want to" do.

Edited 3 September, 20241 yr by J.R.

10 minutes ago, J.R. said:

I would take offence if you called me a Brit

 

Did you know that there is difference between the words Hellas and Greece?

If you say or write "Hellenic" someone can be offended and ask you to correct?

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

This is a UK English language site, the shortened version of the word is a very offensive bigoted racist slur in the UK

 

Did you know that the gesture "talk to the paw'' that even kids do in USA to their parents in my country is an insult and the other guy in the street can slam or punch you?

Also you can end-up in jail from a lawsuit or in court Marshall.

 

It's absolutely impossible for a non-Greek to know all these and i can not blame him.

 

Did you know that till 90's you couldn't say "hey man,  hello man, yo man, what's up man, good morning-good night man" etc to a Black guy in USA? They consider it as offensive because you were White and you didn't had the "right" to say "man" to him?

__________

 

By the way except the car wash my tailor is Bangladeshi and the guy which fixes the mobiles-tablets of the family is Pakistani, also the majority of food delivery that pass from me every day are from these 2 countries.

That doesn't mean i have an obligation to them.

Don't be confused by my troll who has only turned up to have a go at me via you and not to meaningfully contribute.  I don't expect you to know all about the UK and the English language which is why I advised you of the meaning of the word you originally used before you edited to the full version.  I am sure by now you have looked up the UK English meaning and use of the shortened word.

 

I have never suggested that you are bigoted with your use.  You may or may not know of the recent troubles in the UK, those of us that actually live in the UK will obviously stand more chance of knowing more about this and I can absolutely without any doubt assure you that the word you used was, and AFAIK still is, used as a racist slur in the UK from what is called "casual racism" particularly with the older generation but also institutions and without any casualness by those brought up with ignorant prejudice and far right racist thugs and organisations.

 

With your interest in language, in the UK one of the most popular English foods is "a curry" with take-away "Indian" curries being very popular but the "Indian" take-away "curry house(s)" (restaurants) are actually IIRC 80%(?) actually Bangladeshi.

 

29 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

That doesn't mean i have an obligation to them.

Sorry I don't know what you mean.

 

I was only trying to help you I can't know your intentions but having exchanged a few posts and know your age and what you've put on this site advise you in a direct and positive manner that you picked up on if not initially fully understood or perhaps even liked but you picked up on it.  I perhaps wasn't in the best mood having already had to put up with more trolling from my personal troll elsewhere on the site.  I can only speculate why he so persistently trolls me, for a long time now, but I know he wouldn't want me to crash and die as then he would have to find someone else to pick on. 😁  Such a shame as he very often has very good information and advice to give and only occasionally turns nasty on other posters.

 

@nta16 forget "the other guy", no longer harassing us in the Felicia sector.

 

Next week i will go with my spare key to a local famous locksmith to make a folder key to test it, for sure would be less "gingly" than the key+remote control that i have.

7 minutes ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

@nta16 forget "the other guy", no longer harassing us in the Felicia sector.

Yes but he's been replaced for me by the not so new guy and it's getting very old and very wearing, I am sure if he lived in the UK and we meet face to face. he would be far more restricted in what he would say or put but probably whinge about not being able to do so to "all and sundry".  😁

 

"Enough already" (which I thought was Irish) of the man, I leave you to your remote key.

 

18 minutes ago, nta16 said:

Yes but he's been replaced for me by the not so new guy and it's getting very old and very wearing

 

Oh, we have "a new kid in town" ?

I thought that "the other guy" was the only problem.

 

Let's hope that the new key would be a quality one and not cheap Chinese.

I will buy an extra battery for it "just in case".

Don't worry he's only for me, you will have to find another if you really want another one.

 

Personally I think what you had in the very first photo of this thread is the best compromise but I am biased as I don't like remote locking fobs, I like keyblades only, in mechanical locks.

 

With my wife's previous car the folding blade of the remote fob broke and my wife insisted on a replacement and on the 2015 Fabia the remote fob just stopped operating and using the "emergency" keyblade in the hidden door lock set off the car's alarm, replacements were expensive and required further installation work or procedure that had to be paid for.  I could have got the part and work done for a lot less on the Fabia but as I have seen even good quality professional have a rare problem with getting the VW computer programs to accept the new parts I wasn't risking it as if there was a rare event and much more expensive parts and work were required it would be on VWŠkoda to resolve, I have limited faith in computer programs, particularly from car manufacturers, bad enough in other products. 

 

To me It is just adding complications to possible go wrong.  Even a mate's Honda S2000, one of the most reliable cars going the (UK added) alarm went wrong after about 13 years, that was the only thing to play up on the car until about 18 years of age when a hazard switch had to be replaced.

 

Edited 4 September, 20241 yr by nta16
spelling

 

Bad news.

One locksmith said ''No", the other said that they key must had on it the lock-unlock buttons to create a copy (which means ''No'') and the third said that it's a ''not guaranteed" task.

 I must go with the car to his shop and then will make a try and the possibilities are 50-50.

I am very disappointed.