2 hours ago, Alasdair1 said:

I put my reg into parts in motion website and found that my 1.2 was solid. I think the DMF clutch discs have no springs in them .  Not sure of the 1.6td. I know the 1.9tdi had a DMF. Your garage will need one or perhaps two new hub nuts as well. The ones on my MK1 can only be used once. I also had to cut the bottom ball joint off mine as the retaining nuts were turning when trying to remove them from the wishbone. 

Alasdair

I've looked in a number of places and can't get a definitive answer about what type of flywheel is on my car. If it is DMF then this probably means that the clutch replacement is going to be a lot more expensive.  In which case I might just go for master cylinder replacement and hope that is the problem.

21 hours ago, Salopshire said:

I've looked in a number of places and can't get a definitive answer about what type of flywheel is on my car. If it is DMF then this probably means that the clutch replacement is going to be a lot more expensive.  In which case I might just go for master cylinder replacement and hope that is the problem.

I had a quick look and I see what you mean. Is yours a MK2 or a MK3 as they changed in 2014 also seems to be a few 1.6td engines with different power output. Whats the reg and I will have a look or try puting the reg into www.PartsInMotion.co.uk and see what comes up. Had a 1.9tdi that clutch went but the DMF was still fine. Garage checked dmf and replaced clutch and it ran for another 50000 miles until our postie totalled it. There are solid flywheel conversions for around £200 but not sure which one for your car. If you get the master cylinder done it might work for a while but I reckon at the mileage a new clutch may be needed in the future. 

Alasdair

Edited 8 December, 20241 yr by Alasdair1

19 minutes ago, Alasdair1 said:

I had a quick look and I see what you mean. Is yours a MK2 or a MK3 as they changed in 2014 also seems to be a few 1.6td engines with different power output. Whats the reg and I will have a look or try puting the reg into www.PartsInMotion.co.uk and see what comes up. Had a 1.9tdi that clutch went but the DMF was still fine. Garage checked dmf and replaced clutch and it ran for another 50000 miles until our postie totalled it. There are solid flywheel conversions for around £200 but not sure which one for your car. If you get the master cylinder done it might work for a while but I reckon at the mileage a new clutch may be needed in the future. 

Alasdair

Thanks once again for your help. I believe my car is a MK2 - reg no: PX14UWH. I'll see what the garage comes back with before I decide what to do.

2 hours ago, Salopshire said:

Thanks once again for your help. I believe my car is a MK2 - reg no: PX14UWH. I'll see what the garage comes back with before I decide what to do.

Had a look and as usual multiple options. Try https://vehiclelifetimesolutions.schaeffler.co.uk/en-gb/catalog  Scroll down to where it says numberplate. Click and change to VIN  then enter VIN in the next box and it should tell you which clutch you need or at least some options. From looking there seems to be 10-2010 and after 11-2010 when using numberplate. As far as I know DMF clutch disks dont have springs.

Hope this helps. I used it to find the clutch for my MK1 1.2

2 hours ago, Alasdair1 said:

Had a look and as usual multiple options. Try https://vehiclelifetimesolutions.schaeffler.co.uk/en-gb/catalog  Scroll down to where it says numberplate. Click and change to VIN  then enter VIN in the next box and it should tell you which clutch you need or at least some options. From looking there seems to be 10-2010 and after 11-2010 when using numberplate. As far as I know DMF clutch disks dont have springs.

Hope this helps. I used it to find the clutch for my MK1 1.2

I did look at that website and entered my VIN but it was still confusing - a number of options listed. I think I'll just leave it to the garage to sort out.

2 hours ago, Salopshire said:

I did look at that website and entered my VIN but it was still confusing - a number of options listed. I think I'll just leave it to the garage to sort out.

I know what you mean. Mine had 4 listed with upto and from dates and vin numbers. Even ended up contacting LUK but in the end I removed old one first and then ordered parts after measuring old one. Reckon leaving it to the garage is the way to go. They or their parts supplier should be able to work out what parts are needed. If they order the wrong part then its down to them. Hopefully they will sort it out for you. 

Alasdair

You could remove the starter and visually check which flywheel is fitted, you might need an angled mirror or USB camera, you would also need to have pictures of reference examples of each flywheel viewed from the side.

 

If someone knows that the difference cannot be seen with the pressure plate in situ please say so!

11 minutes ago, J.R. said:

You could remove the starter and visually check which flywheel is fitted, you might need an angled mirror or USB camera, you would also need to have pictures of reference examples of each flywheel viewed from the side.

 

If someone knows that the difference cannot be seen with the pressure plate in situ please say so!

I'll suggest that if the garage come back to me and say that they can't find out for certain what type the flywheel is. If they have to remove the gearbox to check I'll be sort of committed to having everything replaced - when, if it is a DMF, I think I'd just opt for a master cylinder replacement first.

4 hours ago, Salopshire said:

I'll suggest that if the garage come back to me and say that they can't find out for certain what type the flywheel is. If they have to remove the gearbox to check I'll be sort of committed to having everything replaced - when, if it is a DMF, I think I'd just opt for a master cylinder replacement first.

 

It won't be the master cylinder so you'll be wasting that money!

6 hours ago, sepulchrave said:

 

It won't be the master cylinder so you'll be wasting that money!

That's interesting, and the mechanic that I spoke to didn't think it would be either - but do you think it will be the slave cylinder then?

1 hour ago, Salopshire said:

That's interesting, and the mechanic that I spoke to didn't think it would be either - but do you think it will be the slave cylinder then?

 

No I don't, I think you need a new clutch. I believe that the 1.6 TDI has a DMF btw, not what you wanted to hear but happy Christmas anyway!

10 minutes ago, sepulchrave said:

 

No I don't, I think you need a new clutch. I believe that the 1.6 TDI has a DMF btw, not what you wanted to hear but happy Christmas anyway!

Ok, thank you - and a happy Christmas to you. I'll probably go for the clutch then, and just take the hit.

Your reg number gives this part number for the flywheel - 028 105 269 B

Judging by the image (if representative) on this page, I think that isn't dual mass, but I'm no expert. Flywheel 1.6TDI, 1.9TDI Sachs 028105269B

40 minutes ago, Breezy_Pete said:

Your reg number gives this part number for the flywheel - 028 105 269 B

Judging by the image (if representative) on this page, I think that isn't dual mass, but I'm no expert. Flywheel 1.6TDI, 1.9TDI Sachs 028105269B

Seems to be a bit of a minefield, best to leave it to the garage I think.

That part number can be relied on. Thought it might help.

Having said that, the ETKA page also says "Before parts order, physical inspection of old part necessary" 

 

So yeah, leave it to the people who'll do the work.

Edited 9 December, 20241 yr by Breezy_Pete

Update on this clutch problem. Got the car back today, clutch and slave cylinder replaced. It was a solid flywheel. Total cost £550.

1 hour ago, Salopshire said:

Update on this clutch problem. Got the car back today, clutch and slave cylinder replaced. It was a solid flywheel. Total cost £550.

 

Good result.