Nothing...

Surely if more air is in the engine then more fuel will be burnt quicker? Or is not the case until the higher revs?

Use the zip tie to pull the small pipe away from the side of the intake pipe - if you fail to do this, the pipe will wear over time!

Can i just say to tho who havent done this part might want to do it otherwise your pipes will end up like this :rotz:

Does anyone know how much of a difference it makes without a re-map?

Very little, definitely not worth the cost of £60+ in my view. Save the money and get something better - possibly a second hand whiteline anti roll bar or something. That'll improve speed better (cornering speed anyway) than this intake.

Does anyone know how much of a difference it makes without a re-map?

I ran a pd160 on my pd100 combi for a week before it was remapped, I found the car to be stronger everywhere.

I thought it was worth every penny, but then I bought it at the lower price before the ******** at Seat started taking the ****.

I ordered mine today, and give or take a few pennys, it is costing £80.

But having done a similar mod to my last car (that shares the same engine) i'm expecting some worthwhile improvements.

Hopefully the parts will arrive on saturday and i can let people know.

I don't understand something. The pipe is bigger so more air flows, but the hole in the box (where the air filter is) is still the same size... so how can more air get in ? and how does the engine rev-up better?

On the first point, the standard intake pipe is NARROWER than the inlet to the air box. I'm not sold on the freer revving myself, though... :rotz:

has anybody ever done a rolling road with before and after print outs ?? as this would prove once and for all if they are worth the money or not ??

Was thinking of doing this down impossible this weekend if mikes got the time !!

I don't know, but we'd love to see your results.

Ideally it's be great to see an before and after RR on an un-remapped car, then before and after on the same car after a remap.

Rolling road figures are dry facts, they don't show the feel of more mid-range torque that I have experienced.

If they don't work ... if anyone of you skeptics wants to sell one?

lol

I think they do improve revability (new word for the day!)

It worked on my last car - Seat Ibiza PD130, it just makes the car breathe a bit easier...

Personally i've not seen a big enough difference to justify the cost.

Revs don't seem much different.

MPG may have increased slightly, but not by any huge amount.

Car doesn't seem to accelerate any faster.

I think the turbo is slightly louder (whistle) but that could be placebo.

I doubt its harming the car in any way, and if the 160PD engine it was designed for has one as standard, then there must be a good reason for it, so a remapped vRS with similar power must benefit in the same way... i'd just like to know the benefits.

I think if you drive flat out everywhere you won't feel a difference ... try driving a gear higher everywhere, or rolling on in the same gear ( yes, it's possible! ) and you will feel it.

It's a torque thing IMHO

Anybody had problems with it rubbing on the gear shift thing underneath the intake??

It does on mine :(

Could anyone do me a favour please, and measure the airbox hole?

I don't know if it's round or rectangular, and i can't get to one at the moment.

However, if its round could you measure me the diameter? and if rectangular etc, could you measure me the perimeter? These dont have to be mental accurate, just ballpark

Thanks!

INteresting find - I take it this will fit to any 1.9TDi Engine - like the one in my Fabia estate? Want to do other mods, inc remap/ filter change, but fear it may have been fiddled with already (the computer severly underestimates MPG etc - I understand this can be a syptom of ecu meddling?)

here you go people to PD160 air intake will make a difference but only very slightly.

What made a difference on my car was a intercooler and k & N induction kit. Oh also with a stage 2 superchip along with big Tarok 312mm brake disks and pads on the front wheels and bigger tyres and wheels to go with it all, cost so far let me see £5,000 about that scarry, but now the car goes extremely fast and has brought a smile to my face just like the day I bought it new. Oh I installed a blueflame complete exhaust system today as well. Extremely, I mean extreamely fast!!!

I ordered mine today, and give or take a few pennys, it is costing £80.

But having done a similar mod to my last car (that shares the same engine) i'm expecting some worthwhile improvements.

Hopefully the parts will arrive on saturday and i can let people know.

Your car looks really cool, how did you get your lights so dark?

Has anyone else done anything more to modify their car than me?

As I have also renewed my wheel bushes on the front wheel and I am sick of my high performance breaks sqeeking all the time. As last time the sqeeked the bushes had gone causing the wheel to wobble under breaking and causing squeek!

Has anyone else done anything more to modify their car than me?

Quite a few actually, according to your post you don't have a hybrid yet

Your car looks really cool, how did you get your lights so dark?

Thanks mate. There is more info about it in the project section (there is a link in my signature). I don't want to hijack the thread and take it off topic

I don't understand something. The pipe is bigger so more air flows, but the hole in the box (where the air filter is) is still the same size... so how can more air get in ? and how does the engine rev-up better?

from an aerodynamic perpective- yes the OEM intake is narrower, but as the intake widens to the intake of the box the air speed is reduced, therefore the air flowing into the cylinders is at a slower airspeed as well. Volumetrically speaking with a bigger intake, the more air can flow threw the intake pipe with no reduction in speed (under the assumption that the pipe is of constant diameter) in this respect the air entering into the cylinders is cooler, more dense and more freely flowing. so with cooler, denser air flowing into the cylinder more air can enter (volumetrically) and such more power produced (more free revving). But i can't see it being anymore than maybe 1-2 bhp.

ideally what you want is an enclosed high flow filter (pipercross viper kit etc) with ducting to fresh cold air, high flow filters are very good at filtering air and allowing it to flow into the inlet plenum but when left exposed in the engine bay all they do is such in warm/hot air from the engine bay, if anything REDUCING performance!

HTH's

Edited 18 September, 200916 yr by omega0684

Just looking to purchase these parts for my car, but the cost for the pipe is stupid!

Has anyone actually managed to just use the trumpet piece, and make up a pipe themselves? Isnt the end square? Just thinking of giving this a go, and if I cannot get it to work then will have to stump up for the proper part.

Si.