As title says above.

Good for the sport or not?

Just saw this on ITV, I suppose it's his time to hang his driving gloves up. I can't see anyone else being as dominating in the sport with him gone, so I would say it will be good for the sport in terms of competition. however, a star has been lost from the sport, so in terms of marketing / appeal its lost something too?

As title says above.

Good for the sport or not?

:orb_blue:NOT !:orb_sad: WHAAAAAAA :orb_upset

Good thing ........he has done for F1 what Steve Davis did for snooker......boring

Good thing ........he has done for F1 what Steve Davis did for snooker......boring

That

Good, boring guy with no charisma. Funny how Valetino Rossi is doing a similar thing , dominating Moto GP, but he's not boring, he has personality and style. Not many people dislike him!

If you don't agree, watch BBC2 at 4pm today and see for yourselves.

Auf Wiedersehn spoonface.

He's not a human, he's a bloody automaton.

Good riddance.

Good' date=' boring guy with no charisma. Funny how Valetino Rossi is doing a similar thing , dominating Moto GP, but he's not boring, he has personality and style. Not many people dislike him!

If you don't agree, watch BBC2 at 4pm today and see for yourselves.[/quote']

Rossi is a God too, possibly an even bigger God. But he is not what you would call a conventually handsome looking individual. I think that

Auf Wiedersehn spoonface.

He's not a human' date=' he's a bloody automaton.

Good riddance.[/quote']

Well said. He's very talented but arrogant and soooooooo booooooring!!! Guess thats Germans for you!!

Good Bye MS. Now lets get Button into Ferrari

Well I hope you guys saw the Moto GP. Fanbl**dytastic. Makes F1 seem pedestrian. Also confirms Rossi is the Supreme Being.

Arrogant and Boring :confused: In the past as caused as much cotreversy with has interpritation/ adhearing to the letter of the rules so no not boring. Allways goes straight over to his team mate, mechanics, crowds to thank them for their support after the race so not really arrogant. As been seen to break down on several occaisions, most notably on the anniversary of Senna so not an automation, and as done more for driver safety etcthan anybody before him. IMHO for a man who by definition takes his life in his hands and as to place so much trust in his fellow drivers/mechanics then he his probably the finest the sport as ever seen, and considering his position and wealth he could be a lot less 'talkative' or user friendly than he is. IOB That F1 as lost by his retirement and that he was one of the characters of the F1 scene all be it in a different way to the likes of Irvine but a chracter nonetheless

Bad for the sport. (Although it isn't sport anymore). Yes his tactics sometimes have been questionable, but I remember Senna taking Prost out all those years ago and Senna is seen as a legend.

I dont like him. Never have. Too much cheating and getting away with it pi$$ed me off.

Cya later Schu :wave:

Bad for the sport. (Although it isn't sport anymore). Yes his tactics sometimes have been questionable, but I remember Senna taking Prost out all those years ago and Senna is seen as a legend.

Because he's no longer with us.

All the best parts are remembered not the ruthlessness and dodgy tactics that Senna used.

Is he doing a Mansell and trying his hand at something else, or is he retiring from motorsport completely?

Would love to see him do a lap round the TG test track in the reasonably priced car!

Chris

Sounded like he was going to be doing something at Ferrari by the wording of the press release and his susequent interveiw

Rossi is a God too, possibly an even bigger God. But he is not what you would call a conventually handsome looking individual. I think that

and as done more for driver safety etcthan anybody before him. IMHO for a man who by definition takes his life in his hands and as to place so much trust in his fellow drivers/mechanics then he his probably the finest the sport as ever seen,

I would suggest, respectfully, that it's a shame that it took the tragic loss of Ratzenberger and even more tragic death of Senna to give Schuey et al the kick they needed to reform the GPDA and to drive home the importance of driver safety. IIRC, there hasn't been a death in F1 in the last fourteen years.

Coulthard seems to have been more outposken on safety than Schuey, but I'll put that down to media coverage and selective reading rather than lack of activity - after all, the GPDA do elect their own leaders, so for Schuey to be president.......

Yes, he takes his life in his hands and while i agree he's something of an automaton/genius behind the wheel, he's too cold, too calculating. He's demonstrated on more than one occassion that if he can get a points advantage, or prevent someone else from getting one, he considers hitting them or parking the car on the racing line as acceptable. Not sure how easily the "safety" badge sticks in those "racing incidents"

Anyway, I think it's good for the sport - yes, his sheer ability isn't likely to be matched just yet, but F1, while loud and fast, is looking a little tired. New blood is needed

Is he doing a Mansell and trying his hand at something else' date=' or is he retiring from motorsport completely?

Would love to see him do a lap round the TG test track in the reasonably priced car!

Chris[/quote']

From the press report his new "position" will be announced at the end of the season, looks awfully like he will be going into Ferrari management/directorship

I would suggest, respectfully, that it's a shame that it took the tragic loss of Ratzenberger and even more tragic death of Senna to give Schuey et al the kick they needed to reform the GPDA and to drive home the importance of driver safety. IIRC, there hasn't been a death in F1 in the last fourteen years.

Definately a shame but prior to the deaths you mention how many great names where killed each year? The sport needed someone to stand up and sort it out.

Coulthard seems to have been more outposken on safety than Schuey, but I'll put that down to media coverage and selective reading rather than lack of activity - after all, the GPDA do elect their own leaders, so for Schuey to be president.......

So he must have the respect of the other drivers.........

Yes, he takes his life in his hands and while i agree he's something of an automaton/genius behind the wheel, he's too cold, too calculating. He's demonstrated on more than one occassion that if he can get a points advantage, or prevent someone else from getting one, he considers hitting them or parking the car on the racing line as acceptable. Not sure how easily the "safety" badge sticks in those "racing incidents"

Or how much of these incidents as been 'spin' by either the media or sore looser syndrome by the other teams. either way if he had been a 'dirty driver all the way back to his Bennetton days then he would not have been elected by GPDA.....As for cold and calculating then yes, red mist would be dangerous.

Anyway, I think it's good for the sport - yes, his sheer ability isn't likely to be matched just yet, but F1, while loud and fast, is looking a little tired. New blood is needed

F1 needs more than new blood, it needs putting in a sack and giving a good shake. The 'sport' is more politicall then blair and iraq ever could be.

Definately a shame but prior to the deaths you mention how many great names where killed each year? The sport needed someone to stand up and sort it out.

I don't dispute it, merely lament that it took so long for them to get it together.

And I will say now my figures are erroneous.

It's 1994 since any driver died, so that's only 12 years.

And there have been two deaths - both marshalls killed by debris, in 2000 and 2001.

And there have been two deaths - both marshalls killed by debris, in 2000 and 2001.

Unpaid and greatly undervalued by a large percentage of the public:( unfortunately motorsport is dangerous and IMO it is impossible to totaly sanitse the sport from death. I also believe that strangling the manufacturers by the rules surrounding engine size/power and aerodynamics is a step backwards in the same vein as scrapping concorde, but whilst ever it is making billions the sport will continue:O

Well I hope you guys saw the Moto GP. Fanbl**dytastic. Makes F1 seem pedestrian. Also confirms Rossi is the Supreme Being.[/font']

certainly did, best racing I've seen in years! Rossi is a God, but Nicky Hayden is the King of poweslides:rofl:

I think Schumacher is a legend and it will be a big loss, he dominated so much because of his ability and skill. I haven't watched many GP's in the last few years but I think thats due to other changes, also the fact that I suppose theres more drivers paying for the seats and thus there weren't as competitive and spoilt it.

Reading Senna's book while on holidays, he was quite a cold character, they say he wouldn't get close to other drivers...his competitors, if he was friendly he couldn't focus on beating them.

I think only time will show what a great driver he was...you don't know what you had till its gone. I'd like to see him win the championship this year and go out on a high.

Good' date=' boring guy with no charisma. Funny how Valetino Rossi is doing a similar thing , dominating Moto GP, but he's not boring, he has personality and style. Not many people dislike him!

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Regarding comparing him and Rossi, for one I don't think Rossi's antics would be tolerated in F1, hence the reason F1 is so boring. Schumacher would go out and get the job done whereas as a lot of the time Rossi does be playing with the opposition and seeing what he can do and where, hence great finishes as he blows the rest of them away at the end and makes a great spectacle.

If you don't agree, watch BBC2 at 4pm today and see for yourselves.

It was another fantastic race, btw having watched the BBC commentary before I must say the Eurosport coverage make a great race even better

13 years next year since the last very tragic weekend in 1994 when 2 F1 racing drivers lost there lives to the sport they and we enjoy.

History is not on F1's side, the 13 year cycle is coming round again next year.

Lets hope the vast improvements in car safety and the improvements in track safety means the sport does not have a repeat of the tragic 1994 events.

Also keep the thread on topic.

Motorbikes and racing are fantastic, but this is about F1 not MotoGP.