Hi all, hope you had a good crimbo!

I got a single beam HID conversion for christmas, but my concern is if i fit this kit i will have no high beam. As it appears to be a single halogen bulb with 2 filaments in the car already. Is this correct?

I have a 2001 vRS

I cant really be driving around with no high beam..

Thanks in advance

Hi all, hope you had a good crimbo!

I got a single beam HID conversion for christmas, but my concern is if i fit this kit i will have no high beam. As it appears to be a single halogen bulb with 2 filaments in the car already. Is this correct?

I have a 2001 vRS

I cant really be driving around with no high beam..

Thanks in advance

Hi Alex

Probibley not the answer you want, but they won't fit your car, but there is kits around that have the twin filiments, poss you could pay the extra, and get the other kit.

I wonder what kit you have(H7 H2) or what? poss sell them on !

Radiotwo

They will fit as i have had this mod done in the past, however, you will lose main beam.

BUT.

The HID makes up for it - i never missed it or needed to use it EVER.

To pass the MOT though, you do need a main beam, but you can get away with wiring your fogs to the main

get a h4 kit with hi/lo, you get both then, i have it is brilliant!

This is a mod i am also thinking of. From what i can see we need something like this:-

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=280063705870&rd=1,1

Yes thats the right type, but to be honest I would go with a uk source as if their is a warrenty problem you have the issues of returns overseas not to mention the expense. I will try to get some photos of mine with the HID's for you

Well from what i have been reading with the HID's you dont need to use the main beam. Taking into account what manguish said about wiring the fogs into the main beam, i have had a look in the haynes and it looks really easy to do so that would solve the problem of not being able to flash people.

I plugged one of the ballasts/bulbs in the other day and i have to say they do look awesome and are extremely bright!! ill post a pic later with one HID and one halogen for comparison.

The only problem i now have, is where on earth to i put the ballasts? there really is not much space around the headlights in the octy!

I'm interested to know how you guys got on as it's a modification i'm considering doing.

Did you have to modify the bulb holder in any way?

Try this link, Mate of mine bought twin filament H4 which seem to work fine and a piece of cake to fit.VVME LLC Your best Xenon HID light supplier. No cutting or soldering needed just fits in as a direct replacement just gotta find somewhere to locate the ballast's which are about the size of a fag packet.Cheap as chips too and quick delivery.

hi everyone sorry if i have posted in wrong place but i am new to this.

can anyone help me i have a 2003 skoda superb 1.9 tdi and would like to upgrade to hid.

I have found a kit for the price that suites me but am confused about exactly what bulbs they use? well it says h7`s so i emailed the seller to check that the kit uses standard h7 xenon bulbs and found some here eBay.co.uk: SKODA FABIA SUPERB OCTAVIA ultra XENON bulbs H7 55W (item 290051576827 end time 15-Jan-07 16:05:27 GMT)

however the seller says the bulbs cost £50 per pair?

here is the kit eBay.co.uk: XENON LIGHT HID CONVERSION KIT H1,H4,H7,9005,9006,9007 (item 280065386194 end time 08-Jan-07 20:08:06 GMT)

Here`s the big question, does anyone know for sure if i really need to spend £50.00 per pair for replacement bulbs or will theese bulbs at £7.48 be compatable?

any comments would be appreciated.

thanks guys and happy new year in advance

I've got a HID set up in my car, hi-low beam too.

Neon3008, the first bulbs you listed in your question are normal car bulbs with a bit of Xenon gas in them, (as I understand it). The second is a proper HID kit, but I don't know what type of bulb you need for a Superb, may be worth a look in the manual to find out what type are your headlights (H4, H7 etc).

Fitting the ballast resistors on my car necessitated removal of the battery and battery holder to get the ballast resistor box in under the front passenger side light (should be an OEM hole you can use). I also had to remove the washer bottle and drill a small hole behind it so that I could put the box between the inner and the outer arch.

I've got a HID set up in my car, hi-low beam too.

Neon3008, the first bulbs you listed in your question are normal car bulbs with a bit of Xenon gas in them, (as I understand it). The second is a proper HID kit, but I don't know what type of bulb you need for a Superb, may be worth a look in the manual to find out what type are your headlights (H4, H7 etc).

Fitting the ballast resistors on my car necessitated removal of the battery and battery holder to get the ballast resistor box in under the front passenger side light (should be an OEM hole you can use). I also had to remove the washer bottle and drill a small hole behind it so that I could put the box between the inner and the outer arch.

the superb uses h7`s but i guess there are many different h7`s.

dont think i`ll bother i aint paying

The real difference Neon is the fact that HIDs are NOT filament bulbs. All the other so called xenon bulbs you get are filament bulbs and they wont even come close to th eoutput of a HID bulb. The HID bulb creates light by arc-ing power across two points and basically acts like lightening only its constant and very controlled. This is why the bulbs cost so much but bear in mind a filament bulb will last you 200 hours where as a HID bulb will last 2000 hours. Once you have driven a car with HID's you wont want to go back. Also you cannoct just fit HID bulbs into a standard car with out the rest of the setup like the ballasts and wiring loom.

here s a kit fitted to a Fabia of a friend of mine. What bulbs from Halfords look like this!!

but you can get away with wiring your fogs to the main

Rubbish!!

Fogs are too low to be used as main beam. There is a legal minimum height for lights to be classed as headlights. It used to be 24"

Rubbish!!

Fogs are too low to be used as main beam. There is a legal minimum height for lights to be classed as headlights. It used to be 24"

That's what you might expect, but in the Octavia (certainly the 'Mk1') they are actually the outermost lights contained within the headlight unit - so they are the same level as the normal dip/main.

What is important, therefore, is the diffusion caused by the lens. Light dispersal requirements of foglights and main beam are completely opposite. I agree that wiring the foglights up as main beam would be ridiculous. They would not throw the beam far enough up the road to be useful, nor would it pass an MoT in this state as the deflection would not be the same. There seems to be a wide misunderstanding as to the differing uses of driving lights and foglights - I think that's why so many idiots drive around with front fogs on as well as main beam.

I think the answer to the original question is to return them for a correct set or sell them on via eBay or similar and get the correct bixenon kit to get dip and main within one lamp.

There was an interesting article in Auto Express this last week about the legality of aftermarket HID kits.

General gist was that whilst it is not illegal to sell the kits it is illegal :eek: to fit them for on-road use into a headlight not designed to take the HID bulb.

They had a kit fitted to a Renault Megane and the result was way worse than the original OEM headlights. The HID kit was duller and dispersed the beam pattern so much that the vehicle would not have passed an MOT with the kit fitted.

As Promised, here is the photo's i said i would post a while back..

Before:

After:

There was an interesting article in Auto Express this last week about the legality of aftermarket HID kits.

General gist was that whilst it is not illegal to sell the kits it is illegal :eek: to fit them for on-road use into a headlight not designed to take the HID bulb.

They had a kit fitted to a Renault Megane and the result was way worse than the original OEM headlights. The HID kit was duller and dispersed the beam pattern so much that the vehicle would not have passed an MOT with the kit fitted.

What bulbs in the Megane? I only ask because a) mine are brighter and my lights did pass the MOT with the HID kit fitted quite happily, at a Skoda main dealer.

Ive heard a lot of bad press about the info in Auto Express articles, so a cellar of salt is needed.

I was certainly unimpressed with the last group test I saw them do, largely cos they only published their rankings, and not the actual measurements they took.

What bulbs in the Megane?

They used a set from a company called 'Quicksilver' and they look like H4's.

They didn't state if they were single or dual-beam.

I've just taken delivery of a set of H4 Muculloch HID's from America, these have no high beam either and a mate of mine has the same kit in a Golf and has never needed to use the high beam

With regards to an MOT, just unplug the connectors, remove the bulbs and shove some normal ones back in, once you have the ticket in your hand, swap em back!

Sorted!! Thats what I'll be doing!!!!

Found this on a website of a HID seller.

For this reason i'm gona stay well clear :thumbdwn:

Would like some tho :(

Are these XENON HID light systems street legal?

Every country and jurisdiction has its own rules and regulations governing the use of automotive lighting. XENON H.I.D. lighting systems that are supplied with the vehicles from the factory are DOT / E approved. Our kits are also made by the same OEM manufacturers that supply all the major car companies of the world. NO XENON H.I.D. lighting system available from any source is DOT / E approved if installed outside of the factory. These kits are not street legal for use on public roads as they are. As a result, we officially endorse the kit for exhibition and off-road use and will only sell the kit to be used for these purposes. We are not responsible for customers who violate the terms of sale in which they will assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or unintended use other than exhibition or off-road use.

I can get H4 true Dual beam H4 kits. £210 +£8 P&P.

Look at HID KIT LAMP (KDG HID LAMP) who are the manufacturers. If you think HID low beam is good, having them as high beam is wicked, especially if you are going down dark lanes.

these have no high beam either and a mate of mine has the same kit in a Golf and has never needed to use the high beam

With regards to an MOT, just unplug the connectors, remove the bulbs and shove some normal ones back in, once you have the ticket in your hand, swap em back!

Sorted!! Thats what I'll be doing!!!!

However bright they are, if they're properly aligned so as not to completely blind all oncoming drivers, they'll hardly be pointing any distance down the road at all. The road right in front of you might be incredibly clearly lit, but you'll have no idea what's just that bit further ahead...

The difference between dipped and main beam isn't the brightness (55W vs 60W on a standard H4), it's the beam pattern and how they're aligned.

I really don't see how it can be safe driving on country roads with no main beam, however bright the dipped might be...

And, as someone else has said, wiring fogs in instead of main won't help as, even though they're mounted at the same height as the headlights in the Octy, their beam pattern is even lower than the dipped headlights.