I know there has been a few threads regarding the tip but can you notice difference in performance!!

Regards Dave.

Dave , I've thought long and hard about this question .................and I still haven't got a clue what you are talking about :confused:

Nope, me either! :confused:

TIP = Turbo Inlet Pipe. Aparently the OEM is quite restrictive in its airflow and replacing it with an aftermarket one improves airflow into the turbo significantly. Cant remember if it improves lower or higher in the RPM, but it does help.

Aha! Got you now.

It would help, as it doesn't kink as badly as the OEM one, so lets more air through if I remember correctly from a converstaion with Jon.

A friend of mine showed me some intersting data today on the inlet system of the 1.8T engine.

It showed extensive research into where losses were in airflow etc from the air intake to the turbo.

There was a 33% drop in between the intake and the start of the filter, and a std filter seemed to work brilliantly as there was only a 3% reduction in flow before and after that.

The rest was inbetween the air mass meter and the turbo. the gauze on the MAF accounted for a large bit of that and when removing it a large gain was found. The rest wa down to the 'elephant trunk hose' as its sometimes called that goes onto the turbo.

Looks like thats where the problem is. I'll see if I can get hard copy on the data and post it up

Ross

Dave,

I'm still "testing" but as I explained to Chris (ChrisH) my perception of what would be achieved by the TIP has be blown out of all proportion.

I reckon for me to noticed anything I would need my map tweaked to take the TIP into consideration.

The last time I noticed a big difference in performance was when I had the boost controller fitted and the map then took into consideration the Milltek dp/cat and CAI.

Was going to have another tweak but I'll think I'll wait for the FMIC before doing it.

I think in retrospect perhaps fitting the Samco TIP would have been better as it complete all the way from the MAF down to the turbo....heard its a bit of a b**ger to fit though.

Good info from Ross....I've also heard that the OEM filter is pretty good.

I was going to purchase the TIP & CAI but now not sure with the tip,are both

items worthy of doing are they value for money

Regards.

I think in retrospect perhaps fitting the Samco TIP would have been better as it complete all the way from the MAF down to the turbo....heard its a bit of a b**ger to fit though.

I fitted one on an S3 yesterday and it wasnt to bad, just need plenty of new clips. The Samco hose costs about

All things are relative.... if you improve one section of the airflow around an engine you need then to improve the next most restrictive... equally the higher the boost you run the more restrictive an item can be in relation to a stock car. TIP is not a prob at 180hp or even 210 but when you hit 230-240 and up then the stock item will hold you back... as does the IC or the head... or the turbo... etc.

I was going to purchase the TIP & CAI but now not sure with the tip' date='are both

items worthy of doing are they value for money

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CAI....ABD guys swear by this....definately louder especially for hearing the DV. I have a Dynatwist quieter and does give better low down response.

I think ultimately I may go back to OEM airbox and get a Green filter panel replacement.

TIP....I think with the responses you have got so far with your RS you probably won't notice a great deal from fitting the TIP. If you had the map tweaked to take it into consideration then you'd probably notice something. A lot of the performance Gurus have said that a map tweak you be noticeable. So you'd probably get around 250bhp....not bad really.

After this....it depends how much money you want to spend.

The OE filter is the only filter box you will ever need just drop a high flow filter in or keep cleaning the stock one, loads cheaper no agg with MAF, been there....etc.

Don't bother with the FMIC unless you are going to run silly boost (above 1.3Bar) or you're on track all the time, not worth the money, been there....etc. Get a water spray kit, vent the back out through inner arch.

If you're going to spend loads go the coilover route, KW3's with linear springs are very good, 0 - 60 & 1/4 will improve noticeable and cornering is out of this world with the right tyres, been there....etc.

Or best of all be a Modabstainer. :P

Or best of all be a Modabstainer

Am I the only dyslexic here who keeps on reading this as Mobadstainer?

Am I the only dyslexic here who keeps on reading this as Mobadstainer?

Nope. I have that problem too, Q!

I have that problem too, Q!

Denis, being an elderly gent like yourself I can see how bad stains could be a problem.

Am I the only dyslexic here who keeps on reading this as Mobadstainer?

I keep reading it as Des taking us for a bunch of mugs and expecting us to believe his car is standard

I keep reading it as Des taking us for a bunch of mugs and expecting us to believe his car is standard

Well I'm not a mug and I don't believe for one minute that his car is standard. I will be bringing my fine tooth comb to Bruntingthorpe to give his car a good going over.

Well I'm not a mug and I don't believe for one minute that his car is standard. I will be bringing my fine tooth comb to Bruntingthorpe to give his car a good going over.

Denis, I'm impressed I didn't realize you had any use for a comb any more.

Des,

He has to keep the Dogs looking smart

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He has to keep the Dogs looking smart [/quote']SWMBO says that comment is so true.... :(

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He has to keep the Dogs looking smart [/quote']

Arr, that'll be it then.

Have fitted a green filter in the OEM box and it does make a difference, probably because the old one was full of crap!

Interesting thing is, as part of the tavia4x4 fix, Horners are fitting a revised turbo inlet pipe.

A friend of mine showed me some intersting data today on the inlet system of the 1.8T engine.

It showed extensive research into where losses were in airflow etc from the air intake to the turbo.

There was a 33% drop in between the intake and the start of the filter' date=' and a std filter seemed to work brilliantly as there was only a 3% reduction in flow before and after that.

The rest was inbetween the air mass meter and the turbo. the gauze on the MAF accounted for a large bit of that and when removing it a large gain was found. The rest wa down to the 'elephant trunk hose' as its sometimes called that goes onto the turbo.

Looks like thats where the problem is. I'll see if I can get hard copy on the data and post it up

Ross[/quote']

So if one removes the gauze either side of the MAF (and gauze isn't really the word for it, it somewhat heavier gauage than this implies), does this up set air flow past the MAF and cause all sorts of false sensor readings, or is it a recommended mod. On the face of the gauze looks like it reduces the cross section area by about a quarter. What do other people think?

Lee

I don't know this for a fact, but I would assume that the gauze is there to protect the MAF sensor, which a mechanic friend of mine who works in a VW garage says is very sensitive and easily damaged (a common problem, he reckoned).

Would it therefore be a dodgy idea removing the gauze?

Isn't the gause for straightening the airflow?