Hi guys with the mods below what sort of bhp do you think ill have my map is a generic chipboost one and he said it would be around 205 bhp with the map.

Hi guys with the mods below what sort of bhp do you think ill have my map is a generic chipboost one and he said it would be around 205 bhp with the map.

My guess 206bhp

205hp sound's about right for the modifications you've listed and a decent remap.

A turbo back exhaust, and a FMIC, would see you at about 215-220hp. And that's basically the K03s maxxed out.

i was hoping id have about 220 bhp now with my mods and remap the v flow induction i hoped would give me a bit,il have to put it on a rr.

have a look see what you think guys

http://www.evoms.com/marketplace/viewproduct.asp?productid={99610546-5637-4D6A-AFF0-0FDC07600E4B}

Mine went up to 216bhp with a remap alone.

......and we've been through this before,lol. de-ja vous!

rhys57, ive learnt there's no point asking your question as unless all the people telling you what they got use the same rolling road you can get a big variable in quotes for flywheel power (upto 25bhp!), some of em are really out there and frankly although "proven" on a rr are bull.... instead if you really must compare use the wheel bhp figures, its the only one that counts and they seem to be more consistant results between rolling roads.

cheers.

RR power figures are nothing more than a giggle to be honest, use a RR for nothing else than having a laugh with friends and seeing if the car is setup properly in terms of boosting, AFR etc and use the buttdyno for power readings

RR power figures are nothing more than a giggle to be honest, use a RR for nothing else than having a laugh with friends and seeing if the car is setup properly in terms of boosting, AFR etc and use the buttdyno for power readings

My local garage has rotatest equipment that bolts on to the hubs thus removing tyre slip etc, and as long as the gear ratios ar available prety accurate readings can be had

how does the way the car interacts with the measuring device make any difference? it doesn't change the fact that a RR can be altered by adjusting air temps and pressures or using the wrong loading settings or the fact that "flywheel" figures are made up by a computer making a best guess?

wheel figures are the only semi useful ones but then they are pretty useless.

how does the way the car interacts with the measuring device make any difference? it doesn't change the fact that a RR can be altered by adjusting air temps and pressures or using the wrong loading settings or the fact that "flywheel" figures are made up by a computer making a best guess?

wheel figures are the only semi useful ones but then they are pretty useless.

You might be interested in reading the info at the following link, yes rolling roads can be accurate

Torque Developments International ; Tuning / Performance Specialists / Upgrades / Power / Dyno

Indeed the hub mounted dynos are about the best engine in car devices you can get.

rolling roads can be very accurate - on the same car/engine PE were, apparently, within single figures of the engine dyno at Prodrive

think what bengie was on about was the fact that the results can (easily) be altered by the operator. a printout with certain variables tippex'd out is not to be trusted...

exactly, as above they can be accurate but they can also be made to read virtually anything the operator wants

like reading under before they remap and over afterwards to make them look better, its a sad fact but easily done :(

You might be interested in reading the info at the following link, yes rolling roads can be accurate

Torque Developments International ; Tuning / Performance Specialists / Upgrades / Power / Dyno

followed and read teh link but with that RR you can still change air temps etc and the loading to tweak results.

i dont think anyone was saying they're all inaccurate, i assume there's plenty of reason to use em for professionals with nothing to gain from manipulating numbers, simple fact of the matter is as bengie says, they can and are manipulated to give the punters something to quote on forums and down the pub.

take matchmakers dyno printout, there's no way that an octy fwd will produce 231bhp at the fly with those mods... the manipulation can be seen in the extremely high transmission losses, (expect 25-20bhp for fwd or lower)...54bhp is bullpie

HOWEVER the 179bhp at the wheels is about right for the mods...

2 cars with 179bhp at the wheels, 1 with a dyno measured at the fly of 300bhp the other 180bhp... both would come across the line at the same time.