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Tonight I finished work at 10.00pm and went to pewsey to go to the carnival - There had been an accident with a young male so there was no access to the public :mad: ... so I head home (Swindon)

I go from pewsey to marlborough where I come to a roundabout - There is a police car to my right who flashes me to go ahead :o not bothered really at this point... So I head out off marlborough towards Swindon at the speed Limits as per normal...

I get about 3 miles out of marlborough and there is this wierd light from the car behind - not a blue light but like a camera phone... At this point im like - Oh great they are checking my car... :o Once again not bothered - Nothing to hide...

With that get to outside where I work on a Sat - on come the blue lights... I pull over and get out - here was the conversation::

Lady PC - 'Hello Sir - have you been drinking?'

Me - 'No - Is there a problem?'

Lady PC - 'Yes - We have run a check on your vehicle and it seems that you have no Insurance'

Me - 'I think there has been a problem, This is my new car I have had it two days and Its got honda insurance for one week until the 23rd off this month then im insured with the post office from that date onwards...'

Lady PC - 'Where is it you work?'

Me - 'Erm not to appear rude or blunt in anyway but your stood right next to it - and I served you fuel earlier... Remember??'

Man PC - 'Oh hello - I remember you... Sorry about this'

Me - 'Its ok Sir Nice to see you - Would you like to see my cover notes and car documents?'

Man PC - 'No thats alright thanks - Have a good night'

:confused: :confused:

1. How am I insured with Honda for this week and the law have no Records....

2. Why start with 'Have you been drinking' when both officers knew where I worked and what time I finished???

3. I think due to the male PC knowing me I didn't have to show my documents ect but its more a concern about how honda and the law don't talk to each other..

Help - Sorry for the long post...Many thanks

Rob

Hmm seems odd - must admit that's worth checking with Honda perhaps.

Wierd - but I've had similar a few times years ago - both private and private-hire driving (out at 3am 'What are you doing ?' - 'My job', Doh :rolleyes: , big stickers on the car etc).

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Hmm seems odd - must admit that's worth checking with Honda perhaps.

Thats the thing - I have all the 'Paper work' in my car... Its all signed and legal...

Could this mean they couldn't actually find a Proper reason to pull me over :eek:

Rob

insurance companies are supposed to update the police insurance database, some of them dont..... when I renewed mine recently, they stated some 'terms' as to how they 'should' ( not law i may add) keep everything upto date on the police database...

you were VERY lucky...... I'm sure you are insured, but the police have taken AND CRUSHED peoples cars for not being on their database, and this is NO lie.... and these people in question HAD insurance, but were just not on the database.....

I love the fact that the police can crush dodgy cars that arn't insured, but it needs to be foolproof, mistakes MUST not happen..... this year my insurance changed on a sunday... I mad SURE with my current insurers that my reg number was on the police database before that date....

You might just find if it's temporary insurance cover that it's not made its way onto the database and when your proper one kicks in, it will. The "have you been drinking" is probably just a standard approach - maybe they thought your driving was a tad erratic, or a bit suspicious if you were sticking to the speed limits....

Was it a traffic car that pulled you, or a panda car?

Chris

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You might just find if it's temporary insurance cover that it's not made its way onto the database and when your proper one kicks in, it will. The "have you been drinking" is probably just a standard approach - maybe they thought your driving was a tad erratic, or a bit suspicious if you were sticking to the speed limits....

Was it a traffic car that pulled you, or a panda car?

Chris

Proper Full Blown 'POLICE LETTERS, BLUE LIGHTS and a Honda Accord...'

My driving for once wasn't erratic - I stated I saw the police in town on a round about Im not about to drive like a loony with them behind me am I??

Thanks for all the posts - but like I stated to them - I have all my documents on me... Would you like to look??? There reaction is what made me think that they were just pulling me over for the sake off it... :(

Rob

It takes up to a week for the database to be updated, then iirc it takes up to a month for the police to then update their systems (so basically police system is already 1 month out).

The drinking question is a normal question, they asking you this as they have stopped you on suspicsion of driving under the influence or no insurance, ifd your insurance was ok i can guarntee they would have used the drinking one as the reason for a stop, something i use to experience lots of times upto 5 years ago when i gave up djing and use to get tugged on the way home at up to 4am in the morning.

If you want to wind them up without being subtle, always answer the "have you been drinking sir?" with yes and when asked how much either say a few pints and leave it or ask them how many pints is a pot of tea ;) if you said a few pints, wait till you are breathilzed and say "do strawberry milkshakes show up on that officer" :rofl: if they have ago at you for wasting their time then point them back to "have you been drinking" and "how much" as most often they forget to ask if it was alcoholic ;)

Could this mean they couldn't actually find a Proper reason to pull me over :eek:

Rob

Quite possibly.

Another incident - friends had come over, removed parcel shelf (I forget reason). Went to pub. Had 1 pint, came home, had coffee, cakes. Friends left.

Realised they'd left shelf so I hot-tailed it after them.

I was trapping - ended up 30 miles on and still hadn't caught them.:confused:

Anyway, got the 'run on' some lights in Leeds so went in 2nd lane and scooted through. Car on inside lane (virtually identical) didn't like it (though totally legal). He proceeded to overtake me on the wrong side of the bollards further down and then turned off at the next roundabout.

1 mile further on I got blue lights.

'Have you been drinking ? Phew, smell that.'

I was not amused. Told them I'd had 1 pint two hours before etc. 'OK, give me the breathalyser'.

Blinks. Hands me the bag - phew, talk about blow and blow.

I handed it back, could have sworn he was trying to 'stretch' the green portion.

'Well, be careful, Sir'.

I dropped off my friend's parcel shelf - they weren't at home. :confused:

Driving back realised the Bobbies must have seen the looney overtake me.

Arrived home, friends rang up - they'd taken another route home - had got home 15 mins after I'd left :( :eek:

As I said I had been travelling some :eek:

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If you want to wind them up without being subtle, always answer the "have you been drinking sir?" with yes and when asked how much either say a few pints and leave it or ask them how many pints is a pot of tea ;) if you said a few pints, wait till you are breathilzed and say "do strawberry milkshakes show up on that officer" :rofl: if they have ago at you for wasting their time then point them back to "have you been drinking" and "how much" as most often they forget to ask if it was alcoholic ;)

Thats good :rofl::D

I had just done an 8 hour shift tho.. and seen both officers in that space off time -

It like.. 'Yes officer... I had 1 x Pint diesel and 2 x Pints unleaded' :o

How about when they come in tomorrow asking - So whats that - you just put unleaded in your diesel car... ;) see how they like it

To be fair, no matter what the regs say, the police don't need a proper reason to pull you over. If they want to pull you over they will. I find it hysterical that "sticking to the speed limit" counts as "suspicious"...in the words of Alfie "if they ain't got you one way, they got you the other"...

What really annoys me is the number of people you see on the roads late at night at weekends who are CLEARLY ****ed, it's all you can do to avoid them, and how many of them get caught?

My driving for once wasn't erratic - I stated I saw the police in town on a round about Im not about to drive like a loony with them behind me am I??

Exactly! So driving "carefully" ... possibly a bit too carefully .... might arouse suspicion, especially if you're not on their database!

Chris

i did the above with an ex of mine when we were seeing each other, she couldnt beleive it, but knew straight away i was on a wind up as she did see me drink a pint glass full of milkshake before we left the house (there is a long story for drinking so much milk back then).

I did get a bit of ear ache from her after we got away, but she did see the funny side and the copper was (in a rare moment) quite amused with it.

Sussed

I think it was sucking on the Baby Soother whilst you were driving that gave them 'cause for concern' :D

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Exactly! So driving "carefully" ... possibly a bit too carefully .... might arouse suspicion, especially if you're not on their database!

Chris

Fair play - Like its stated in the above post 'If they want to pull you over they will find a reason' looks like its going to be a long week :D

(Lets see how many follow me to the meet on friday at Newbury) :rolleyes:

Rob

(there is a long story for drinking so much milk back then).

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Oooh er, is that something to do with compatibility with penicillin, then ? :rolleyes:

i had a panda car follow me for 10 miles this morning, he certainly didnt like my advance style of driving and from the look of his he certainly hadnt been on any police driving course :lol: would have loved to been pulled by him and give him a lecture about the 2 second rule at 50mph ;)

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i had a panda car follow me for 10 miles this morning, he certainly didnt like my advance style of driving and from the look of his he certainly hadnt been on any police driving course :lol: would have loved to been pulled by him and give him a lecture about the 2 second rule at 50mph ;)

I must be honest - The panda car that followed me was on my **** the whole way - When the blues came on I did slam on my brakes and pull over instantly...

I did find out one thing that the Officers didn't like - after they turned around to leave I asked them to state their badge number and name....

Just looked at my cover note - Everything is 100% ok as I thought. I will phone both honda and the Post office tomorrow to make a slight hint about this and see if they can explain anything to me...

Rob

(there is a long story for drinking so much milk back then).

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Oooh er' date=' is that something to do with compatibility with penicillin, then ? :rolleyes:[/quote']

nope, i was a skinny runt that could eat burgers and chocolate till the cows came home with out putting anyweight on and i needed to put weight on if i wanted to get anywhere using weights down the gym (gym only lasted a few weeks) now its the other way round i want to get rid of the excess body mass ;)

nope' date=' i was a skinny runt that could eat burgers and chocolate till the cows came home with out putting anyweight on and i needed to put weight on if i wanted to get anywhere using weights down the gym (gym only lasted a few weeks) now its the other way round i want to get rid of the excess body mass ;)[/quote']

Knew I'd got ya there - that you'd have to come up with a plausible explanashun :D

I was original weakling, 'matured' at 15, was in choir till then :eek:

Worked out then using Bullworker, used to spoon in Marvel, went up against school fitness freak (used to wallop me 15 - 0 at Badminton), worked for Brother-In-Law weekends and holidays on veg stall (before fork lift trucks etc).

Didn't drink then, either (hic, so apols for shpellings).

1 yr on, got to beat school fitness freak at Badminton on regular basis.

Later worked in veg and retail grocery trade for a good while - used to pick people up and rest them on crook of my arm for good few minutes, dead-lift two sacks potatoes straight onto shoulder etc.

Now, am really really gonna have to have life-change, seriously overweight, blood pressure up etc :thumbdwn:

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Knew I'd got ya there - that you'd have to come up with a plausible explanashun :D

I was original weakling' date=' 'matured' at 15, was in choir till then :eek:

Worked out then using Bullworker, used to spoon in Marvel, went up against school fitness freak (used to wallop me 15 - 0 at Badminton), worked for Brother-In-Law weekends and holidays on veg stall (before fork lift trucks etc).

Didn't drink then, either (hic, so apols for shpellings).

1 yr on, got to beat school fitness freak at Badminton on regular basis.

Later worked in veg and retail grocery trade for a good while - used to pick people up and rest them on crook of my arm for good few minutes, dead-lift two sacks potatoes straight onto shoulder etc.

Now, am really really gonna have to have life-change, seriously overweight, blood pressure up etc :thumbdwn:[/quote']

What are you trying to say?? - Briskoda is bad for your health?? ;):rofl::D

Rob

What are you trying to say?? - Briskoda is bad for your health?? ;):rofl::D

Bad for the health of your wallet. :rolleyes:

You have to remember that no reason is needed to pull you over, its probably a good job they pulled you up to have a check and asking people if they've been drinking a Sat night is quite common.

I remember following a BMW and pulling into a drive after it, poor woman was a little shocked at 4 of us bundle out of a van when all she had wrong was a brake light out and was driving kinda badly! Gotta check if they have had a drink eh?

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You have to remember that no reason is needed to pull you over, its probably a good job they pulled you up to have a check and asking people if they've been drinking a Sat night is quite common.

I remember following a BMW and pulling into a drive after it, poor woman was a little shocked at 4 of us bundle out of a van when all she had wrong was a brake light out!

Fair play - Like I said 'Its their job.. Rather nice to see them doing it'. It turns out the honda first week insurance isn't actually sent off untill today :mad: ...

So the details they had do seem correct apart from I had the policy sat next to me which clearly states that Im insured untill the 26th for untill 15.00pm

I'll tell a nice little story of a driving instructor friend of mine (BSM Corsa at the time) in Sheffield, he was following a traffic car, that was consistantly driving 10 mph below the speed limit, for a few miles, getting bored, and getting late..... came to a right turn (marked in the road with normal road markings for a seperate lane, with the normal hatch (surrounded by a broken line) before the arrow leading you into the lane, pulles into the hatches as soon as possible, passed the police car, and turned right (at higher than normal speed, but well under control, and well within the speed limits)

the police car immediately changes course and follows him....

next road is a national speed limit road, with corners that have reccomended speed limits on signs on approach......

instructor (always a bit of a 'lad') was driving to the max of his considerable ability (always within the speed limit) and very soon was pulled over by the traffic car (Of course the traffic car knows the BSM car is properly maintained (less than six moths old) properly insured , taxed ect.....

comes up to instructor.. "do you know why we've stopped you sir?" "no" he says... "well firstly I didn't like the way you passed me throught the hatched area of that right turn lane...." instructor- "would you like me to show you the paragraph in the driving manual (now "safe driving for life") where it says you may enter a hatched area surrounded by a broken line provided you can see it's safe to do so... i have it in my door pocket.. ? , and I didn't like the way your lack of progress was going to make me late, that would fail you a driving test you know?" copper "also what did the sign say about the speed limit in that last corner? do you remember? 40 mph, you were doing 50mph..." instructor- " that is a recommended speed limit shown in a white box, if it was an enforcable speed limit it needs to be in a red circle, you are wrong about the speed limit on that corner being 40 mph, its actually 60 mph, as this is a national speed limit road.... and my speed was fine for the current road conditions and abilities of my car, and myself as a driver, I know you have no evidence of dangerous or reckless driving, you know I have proper insurance tax ect, the car is new, you have already made me late by your lack of progress on the five miles previous, if you want a driving lesson to correct your errors, phone up and book one, it costs £21 an hour, your are not getting anymore fo free..... you are either going to arrest me, or I'm going to drive away now..." (all in very quiet assured reasonable tones)...

stunned look from policeman, with just silence following, as he starts his car back up, and drives away! lol...

:rofl: :rofl: swear this is true ;)

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