After speaking with Steve (who as done an exceptional job over the last 2 years) he as asked to take a back seat on this one. Taking on board comments in the other thread I have come up with this proposed itinery:

5th Nimes :Translated version of http://www.hotel-imperator.com/

6th 7th 2 nights Cannes:Hotel Cannes Riviera Cannes

8th Baratier:Arcantis Hotel Les Peupliers - Baratier, 05200

9th Crans Montana:Minotel La Prairie - Crans Montana (Valais)

10th Chur:ABC Chur Hotel - Swiss Quality Chur Hotel

11th Bolzano:Four Points Sheraton Bolzano Bozen, Bolzano, Italy - 54 Guest reviews - Booking.com online hotel reservations

12th Zell am see:Gasthof Schutthof hotel, Zell Am See hotels, Salzburg hotels, AUSTRIA hotels - Dilos Holiday World

13th Koblenz:Scholz hotel, Koblenz hotels, Rhineland-Palatinate hotels, GERMANY hotels - Dilos Holiday World

DAY ONE FRANCE

00.00 Dover - Dunkeque

03.00 Dunkerque - Millau 582 miles (Millau Bridge) http://rehmeier.de/wp-content/millau_bridge.jpg

05.00 - 05.15 Petrol stop as required

07.15 - 07.45 Breakfast services between Paris and Orleans

10.00 - 10.15 Petrol stop as required

12.30 Millau

15.30 Millau- Nimes 105 miles

17.30 Nimes

Total 687 miles, approx 10 Hrs driving (This is the longest day )

Overnight

DAY TWO FRANCE

09.00 Nimes - Carpentras 45 miles

10.00 Carpentras - Bedoin 9 miles

10.15 Bedoin - Malaucene 26 miles (Mt. Ventoux, Hill Climb, First raced 1902 ) http://www.frankfeuerberg.com/typo3temp/pics/1_bc260447d3.jpg

11.00 Malaucene - Sault 24 miles

11.40 Sault - Carpentras 26 miles (Gorge de La Nesque)

12.30 Carpentras

Lunch

13.30 Carpentras - Cannes 151 miles

15.45 Cannes

Total 285 miles, 5 hours 30 mins driving (time allowed for photo stops )

Overnight

DAY THREE FRANCE

Free Time in Cannes

DAY FOUR FRANCE

09.00 Cannes - Castellane 52 miles (Route Napoleon)

10.00 Castellane - Moustiers-ste-Marie 29 miles (Verdon Gorge) http://www.levieux-moulin.co.uk/sitefiles/Verdon.jpg

11.15 Moustier-ste-Marie - Comps-sur-Artuby 30 miles (Corniche Sublime)

12.30 Comps-sur-Artuby lunch

13.30 Comps-sur-Artuby - Castellane 18 miles

14.00 Castellane - Gap 86 miles

16.00 Gap

16.35 Baratier

Total 237 miles 5hrs 30 mins driving (time allocated for photo shoots:))

Overnight

DAY FIVE FRANCE - ITALY(Courmayeur) - SWITZERLAND (Sion)

08.30 Baratiers - Gap 25 miles

09.00 Gap - Grenoble 65 miles (Route Napoleon) (France)

10.45 Grenoble - Courmayeur 121 miles

12.00 - 12.45 Moutiers lunch (France)

14.45 Courmayeur - Sion 60 miles (Mont Blanc Tunnel) (Italy - France - Switzerland)

16.30 Sion - Grimentz 13 mile (switzerland)

17.00 Crans Montana

Total 282 miles 7 hours driving

Overnight

DAY SIX SWITZERLAND

09.00 Crans Montana - Hospental 76 miles

11.15 Hospental - Airolo 15 miles (St. Gothard Pass)http://www.tourenland.de/paesse/p_bilder/gothard4.jpg

11.45 Airolo - Bellinzona 37 miles

12.30 lunch

13.30 Bellinzona - Chur 72 miles (St. Bernardino Pass)http://images.gadmin.ch/11538/images/biking_6_0_b.jpg

15.30 Chur

Total 203 miles 5 1/4 hours driving

Overnight

DAY SEVEN SWITZERLAND - ITALY

08.15 Chur - Davos 40 miles

09.00 Davos - Zernez 24 miles

09.45 Zernez - Schluderns 33 miles (Italy)

10.40 Schluderns - Sondalo 45 miles (Stelvio Pass) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/13/Stelvio.jpg/300px-Stelvio.jpg

12.30- 13.30 lunch Sondalo

13.30 Sondalo - Edola 35 miles

14.45 Edola - Bolzano 80 miles

17.00 Bolzano

Total 257 miles 7 1/4 hours driving

Overnight

DAY EIGHT ITALY - AUSTRIA

09.00 Bolzano - Cortina 75 miles

11.l15 Cortina - Lienz 50 miles (Austria)

12.30 -13.30 lunch

13.30 Lienz - Zell am See 60 miles ?(Grossglockner road and galcier. The highest road in Austria, first raced in 1935, one of the toughest Hill Climbs in the world Toll �18 app. (note must take dead end spur to Edelweisspitze original cobbled hairpins and veiwpoint) http://www.channel4.com/life/media/0-9/4realvolvo/images/october/adventure/drives/main.jpg

15.30 Zell am See

Total 184 miles 5 1/2 hours driving

Overnight

DAY NINE AUSTRIA - GERMANY

09.00 Zell am See - Adenau 453 miles

12.30 - 13.30 lunch

17.00 Koblenz

Total 430 miles 6 Hours driving

Overnight

DAY TEN GERMANY - FRANCE - UK

09.00 Nurburgring (Gand Prix circuit , First Race 1927)

(possible early departure from ring (12.00) and return to Dunkerque via Reims (Grand Prix Circuit First Race 1925))

17.00 Nurburgring - Dunkerque 258 miles

21.00 Dunkerque

22.00 Ferry to Dover

Tootal Depends on your number of laps :p

Total estimated miles covered 2,767 but when budgeting for fuel remember your mpg will be down

In the event that there is also Cz trip taking place I am planning on setting off on the Morning of Friday the 5th of September allowing anyone who wishes to travel from Zell am See to Prague in time for the Sat. Dosky meet:P and join up with that.

As it stands the route (exc. UK and Cz) is approx 2767 :p miles. I am budgetting on accomodation in the region of �400 pp (hopefully will be cheaper but we will be staying in Cannes on a Saturday night:eek: ), road and bridge/tunnel tolls �200, + spend + meals. So for 2 people in a petrol Vrs bank on approx �1300 per person.

The trip will consist of early starts and many hours of hard driving on some of the finest and most challenging roads in the world, for this reason it is soley a driving holiday and no side trips/excursions are planned with no free time during the days other than photo opppurtunities and rest stops.

If there are many people interested then unfortunately there will be a maximun number of places available due to restraints of accomodation probably 8 to 10 cars in total. I will not require a minimum number to organise this trip as I want to do it myself in anycase:P

Again this is only a feeler thread at the moment but would like to give interested parties the oppurtunity to start saving, and envisage having to start looking to book accomodation early in the new year, at which point a non-refundable deposit will be required.

Please Note:

If there is any difficulty in finding suitable accomadation the Overnight stopover destinatons are not set in stone.

If any of the routes mentioned are impassable due to inclement weather/ road closures alternatives are available but may not be quite as scenic (tunnels etc:O )

This trip is not organised by BRISKODA and is not an Official BRISKODA event usual disclaimers etc apply.

I welcome any comments suggestions but would point out that adding extra roads/ routes could go on for ever and imo think what we have should provide an entertaining and worthwhile experiance. If you are seriously interested and will be able to do this please add your names to give me some idea.

Individuals will be responsable for arranging their own medical/health/travel insurance....a must in the countries we are visiting, also recovery cover for their own vehicles in the case of breakdown or accident, suitable vehicle insurance and meeting the laws of the country being travelled through. Whilst i will provide a route for each day and endevour to have everyone stay together it will be the responsability of the individual to make it to the evenings accomodation, sat nav with european maps is reccomended, at the very least a good map (neither of which is provided:P)

Andrew

Edited 23 April, 201016 yr by postmanpat

Feck me mate, you dont hang around do you

Sounds like an awesome trip and one I'd deffinately be interested in

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Inteterested yes; £1300 will have to see when the car insurance comes out.

Wish you well trying to organise that, sounds like an epic

I am interested to , but until next september you never know !

Might be able to manage this one

count me out cant justify 1300 in my household sorry.

Interested. Will book that time off work after new year, so any changes of dates I would appreciate very advanced warning as the holiday sheet fills up mighty fast!

Interested. Will book that time off work after new year, so any changes of dates I would appreciate very advanced warning as the holiday sheet fills up mighty fast!

Can I be a passenger? Or does it not work that way round?

Having looked at the plan, looks like a cannonball/gumball type event to me

I'm interested anyway

Can I be a passenger? Or does it not work that way round?

Having looked at the plan, looks like a cannonball/gumball type event to me

I'm interested anyway

LOL! As if you'd go for that!! You complained enough when I drove you to the malt house! It was bliss when you fell asleep :P

Can I be a passenger? Or does it not work that way round?

Having looked at the plan, looks like a cannonball/gumball type event to me

I'm interested anyway

Might have room Dave

Might have room Dave

As if he wouldn't want to drive lol!

It was bliss when you fell asleep :P

It was my body's coping mechanism :P

Pat - 3600 miles for us northerners, in 9 days, in a Skoda. Gonna have to say it seems a bit much tbh.

Gumball/Canonball is 3000 miles, usually done in a very high powered fast car, in Stuart's case a very fast Skoda. Id be interested in his input in the milage and route before I commit if I'm honest, as I think a convoy of cars doing so much distance in so little time might not be as easy as you imagine. Just my 2p's worth. And Im quite often mistaken lol.

PS Thanks Len, but I'm kidding. As Loz says, something I would have to drive myself.

It was my body's coping mechanism :P

Pat - 3600 miles for us northerners, in 9 days, in a Skoda. Gonna have to say it seems a bit much tbh.

Gumball/Canonball is 3000 miles, usually done in a very high powered fast car, in Stuart's case a very fast Skoda. Id be interested in his input in the milage and route before I commit if I'm honest, as I think a convoy of cars doing so much distance in so little time might not be as easy as you imagine. Just my 2p's worth. And Im quite often mistaken lol.

PS Thanks Len, but I'm kidding. As Loz says, something I would have to drive myself.

No problem Dave

It was bliss when you fell asleep :P

He just shut his eyes because he couldn't bear to look where he was going :P

He just shut his eyes because he couldn't bear to look where he was going :P

yeah, yeah, funny :P

I have to agree with Shifty... it sounds an awful lot, although I haven't mapped it out yet. I like driving, especially on interesting roads, but I think that would be too much for me without enough rest days. And the slog to Dover as well :(

Route miles added as shown by sat nav.

LOL! As if you'd go for that!! You complained enough when I drove you to the malt house! It was bliss when you fell asleep :P

must have missed his afternoon nap

put me down as being interested , 11 months to save up aswell

I think you can count me on on this. Looks too good too miss

Wow... looks fantastic. But £1300... that's a d****** to some people

Wow... looks fantastic. But £1300... that's a ******* to some people

Cannonball £4500 + fuel + + +

It was my body's coping mechanism :P

Pat - 3600 miles for us northerners, in 9 days, in a Skoda. Gonna have to say it seems a bit much tbh.

Gumball/Canonball is 3000 miles, usually done in a very high powered fast car, in Stuart's case a very fast Skoda. Id be interested in his input in the milage and route before I commit if I'm honest, as I think a convoy of cars doing so much distance in so little time might not be as easy as you imagine. Just my 2p's worth. And Im quite often mistaken lol.

PS Thanks Len, but I'm kidding. As Loz says, something I would have to drive myself.

Mileage wont be a problem if your disciplined, I went to france with 15 other cars a few weekends ago, we left Friday 3pm, back home Monday 7pm, 1940 miles & had a great time with loads of time for socialising & drinking :thumbup:

Anyone whos driven on the Continent will tell you that driving is so easy as long as you avoid Holiday time etc, Cities are like cities anywhere but certainly no worse than the UK. On the Motorways you can cruise at 80 legally & 90 - 100 dosent attract too much attention, if caught at that speed the fines arent too bad.

If you drive at high speed you knock the MPG & have to refuel more, its suprising how much distance you can cover whilst others are refuelling, On the Cannonballs a lot of the Exotics could only do 200 miles between refuelling so whilst they went like the preverbial they were for ever filling up

As I said you just need to be disciplined, fuel the cars just before you stop for the night, leave on time in the morning, dont try & stick together, run ideally in groups of 2 or 3, 10-15 cars trying to stay together, especially through towns is a no no, 10-15 cars refuelling at the same garage with all the chit chat can take an hour. Also big groups attract the Police. If someone has a problem dont all stay to help, it only needs a couple at most. If the whole group stops everytime something happens it just adds hours to the trip. Whoever goes make sure you are totally self sufficent, prep the car properly before you go, preferably a full service 3-4 weeks before, time to fix anything they find & time to find anything they fooked up on the service.

All people need to know is where they need to be in the evening, a suggested route & "possibly" a suggested town to stop for lunch.

ALWAYS get a decent recovery insurance & read the small print, make sure it includes a hire car,make sure you can take the car from country to country, some of the cheaper ones only allow a flight home, some only give a car for up to 3 days. The Skoda one through the AA only gave 3 days hire & you had to pay the rest. I did the P****D off customer bit to Skoda UK when the Superb broke & they paid the rest. The RAC one now used might be better but I doubt it.

With all Governments appearing to be anti car it wont be many years before trips like this cant be done & Im guessing only a couple of years before points can be awarded for motoring offences comitted on the Continent so if your thinking about it dont leave it too long.

Ive done 4 Cannonballs, 2 Furballs & will do the Furball again next year, its probably going to be September so it precludes me from joining you but Im happy to give advice any time.