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[Mounty]

Hello guys

I'm trying to find out some useful information as I'm unsure what clutch and flywheel setup to invest in. This is where I need your help!

Please can you provide me with the following information on your Fabia vRS:

Make of your Clutch =
Make of your Flywheel =
Single or Dual Mass Flywheel =
Current Torque (lbs/ft) =
Approx price at time of purchase =
Any issues with the Gearbox or Driveshaft etc =

Many thanks in advance

Please note: I'll only be using the information for personal use, as it'll help me decide on what setup to buy.

Edited by Mounty, 30 November 2012 - 12:29.

[matt1chelski]

Sachs clutch
'Jabbasport' (suspected helix make them for jabba) SMF
200bhp +

Can I ask, how are you using this info? Are you going to pick the most common? I'm gonna replace my whole setup in the new year for a Helix I think.

[NoSmokeNoPoke]

CG Motorsport 6 paddle clutch, with their SMF. Current stage 1, 170bhp and 300lb/ft. Going Hybrid in the coming weeks...

[eric87]

Maybe a price for the setup will be helpful to others too? Just a suggestion.

[NoSmokeNoPoke]

This was covered a while back, in fact, i created the post!

[Mounty]

NoSmokeNoPoke, on 30 November 2012 - 13:11, said:

This was covered a while back, in fact, i created the post!

Please can you paste the link into this post?

That'll be a great help.

Cheers mate

[NoSmokeNoPoke]

The power of the search function! http://www.briskoda....pricing-thread/

[Polo6n1600i]

Make of your Clutch = Sachs sports clutch
Make of your Flywheel = Jabbasport 6Kg Flywheel
Single or Dual Mass Flywheel = SMF
Current Torque (lbs/ft) = 333
Approx price at time of purchase = £910 all in inc new slave
Any issues with the Gearbox or Driveshaft etc =  None - other than normal smf gearbox chatter

[vrsiain]

Make of your Clutch = awesome gti (techniclutch)
Make of your Flywheel = awesome gti (some old scrap metal)
Single or Dual Mass Flywheel = SMF
Current Torque (lbs/ft) = 371ft lbs / 205bhp
Approx price at time of purchase =£625
Any issues with the Gearbox or Driveshaft etc = hugely loud chatter + clutch slip!

going to buy a sachs 4paddle clutch and flywheel soon that has a 450 ft lbs torque rating!

[Alex_fabia]

vrsiain, on 02 December 2012 - 13:44, said:

Make of your Clutch = awesome gti (techniclutch)
Make of your Flywheel = awesome gti (some old scrap metal)
Single or Dual Mass Flywheel = SMF
Current Torque (lbs/ft) = 371ft lbs / 205bhp
Approx price at time of purchase =£625
Any issues with the Gearbox or Driveshaft etc = hugely loud chatter + clutch slip!

going to buy a sachs 4paddle clutch and flywheel soon that has a 450 ft lbs torque rating!

Have heard nothing but bad things about techniclutch, I heard they are standard patern parts painted red.

Don't see why awesome gti would sell them?

[vrsiain]

Yeah I got told not to get one but I didn't listen and now I regret it! Slips under load really badly and it's only got about 2000-3000 miles on it! And the flywheel chatters like mad!! Really really bad one!

[andypandypoos]

vrsiain, on 02 December 2012 - 13:44, said:

Make of your Clutch = awesome gti (techniclutch)
Make of your Flywheel = awesome gti (some old scrap metal)
Single or Dual Mass Flywheel = SMF
Current Torque (lbs/ft) = 371ft lbs / 205bhp
Approx price at time of purchase =£625
Any issues with the Gearbox or Driveshaft etc = hugely loud chatter + clutch slip!

going to buy a sachs 4paddle clutch and flywheel soon that has a 450 ft lbs torque rating!

I had a Sachs 4 paddle clutch and Jabba SMF on my Ibiza, it was really heavy and grabby although it never slipped right up until it ate itself

[vrsiain]

What you mean ate itself? What happened to it?

[Big Jase]

Helix organic
Helix single mass flywheel
Price £880
Torque rating (you'll never blow it)

Pic

[JoshH]

Big Jase, on 02 December 2012 - 23:29, said:

Helix organic
Helix single mass flywheel
Price £880
Torque rating (you'll never blow it)

Pic

Seem to remember Luke saying similar until he destroyed one

[Big Jase]

Yes but not meaning to sound harsh.... But a normal person couldnt destroy one!

[Phil-E]

I thought about going for an SMF when we were having the gearbox rebuilt.

Changed my mind after the garage put me off by telling me they have fitted a few for people and they have had the chatter from them.

Went with a like for like replacement in the end and a Sachs DMF and clutch went in.

No regrets. The clutch bites very hard with no slip at all. And everything is very nice and smooth. Would have really annoyed me to have noise coming from the flywheel all the time.

Phil

[Big Jase]

Smf's will chatter but will far outlast the compromised design of the dmf

[Phil-E]

Big Jase, on 03 December 2012 - 14:19, said:

Smf's will chatter but will far outlast the compromised design of the dmf

The one in before had lasted for 107k miles and was actually not too bad. A little noise as the clutch was released/depressed but certainly not at the end of it's life.

I do not intend on having this car when it hits another 100k on the clock anyway so I will go with the comfort etc ahead of a little extra life.

Phil

[Big Jase]

Smf is for big power

My dmf at 200bhp+ only lasted 20k

[andypandypoos]

vrsiain, on 02 December 2012 - 16:26, said:

What you mean ate itself? What happened to it?

when they took the box off the centre of the clutch was completely missing, not a trace of it. I could live with the clutch, but realistically it was horrible day to day

[Big Jase]

Paddle clutches are horrible on the road!

Organic's what you want for road use

[vrsiain]

My car is 371ft lbs and the organic is rated to 400 so I was gonna get paddle because that's rated to 450 and gives me a good safety net. Plus I wanna get more power in the future!

[matt1chelski]

JoshH, on 03 December 2012 - 12:19, said:

Seem to remember Luke saying similar until he destroyed one

I wouldnt use that as a gauge of how good a part is tbh. Luke managed to destroy most things lol.

philje123, on 03 December 2012 - 14:11, said:

No regrets. The clutch bites very hard with no slip at all. And everything is very nice and smooth. Would have really annoyed me to have noise coming from the flywheel all the time.

Only makes a noise when idle and clutch is released really. Otherwise you wouldnt know.

[Big Jase]

vrsiain, on 03 December 2012 - 17:57, said:

My car is 371ft lbs and the organic is rated to 400 so I was gonna get paddle because that's rated to 450 and gives me a good safety net. Plus I wanna get more power in the future!

What clutch is that on?

Manufacturers rate them low so to cut down on warranties and so they are always safe! Your 400lbft clutch will last no problem!

[Dark_Hero]

I have the darkside/ southbend stage 2 daily driver clutch and silent flywheel. Rated to 400ftlbs no idea on power/ torque figures though

[vrsiain]

Big Jase, on 03 December 2012 - 18:29, said:

What clutch is that on?

Manufacturers rate them low so to cut down on warranties and so they are always safe! Your 400lbft clutch will last no problem!

its a awesome gti clutch and SMF at the moment but the sach figures qouted on darksides website is 400 for organic and 450 for paddle clutch.

[Big Jase]

vrsiain, on 03 December 2012 - 18:52, said:

its a awesome gti clutch and SMF at the moment but the sach figures qouted on darksides website is 400 for organic and 450 for paddle clutch.

It will be fine! You do not want a paddle on a road car!!

[vrsiain]

my car gets some stick tho thats what im thinking, ive had 5 sets of tyres on the front in 30'000 miles due to how i drive the car. im going to have a good luck around first because although i drive the car hard i do alot or driving for work and often get stuck in traffic!

[Big Jase]

Well if its not slipping what is the problem?

Paddle is impossible in traffic! But trust me that 400lb/ft rating will be overly conservative! It will be fine