Tell
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Afraid I'm not into connected cars for navigation or traffic reports. Feels like amateur radio. The maps created are not created by cartography companies but Google itself. Waze has fantasy roads on it without validation, ditto Google maps putting in farm tracks. Speed camera reports are only reports. All CB radio type of stuff on Waze. Missing is validation. Now traffic reports are dogged by the closure of 3g. Sounds fun. For software updates and inbuilt navigation problematic slow connections isn't really an issue but real time use it will be. Least we now know from the above why eSim and dongle use as alternative to TMC are problematic. The post 2020 cars with mib3 and above won't have TMC, whilst in the UK and France etc coding solutions are available to get the traffic reports still up on your built in maps (mib1 and 2, Skoda and Seat) till that plug is pulled. Inrix does for me with the solutions posted on the other thread. It's the database that Traffic Authorities use in the UK to record known road conditions.
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Suspect you are in the slow lane of end of life care (EOL as its called in the NHS). That's the worry with connected cars as to how long the support lasts for. You got the dongle bit but never the less elements of connected car. Question is whether other users find the same.
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Well it's one of these two based on a Google of what's fitted: Mib3 (Superb Mk3.FL and similar) Content Downloadable 2023.12.20 2023.12.20 162 MB 2024.05.17 2024.11.07 https://www.phonostar.de/download/vw/MQB3_OI_JND_Europe_v1.31.50.zip 1,13 GB 2025.01.14 2025.02.20 https://www.phonostar.de/download/vw/MQB3_OI_NonGP_JND_Europe_v1.31.56.zip 166 MB Pass on what NonGP means... we need @MartiniB I'd try the bigger file, see whether that works then move onto the smaller one. You can read the radio release you currently have of your infotainment system, so what you want is something with a higher release. No good going below that. That's the other steer. Generally these update files lock onto your unit so if it's not relevant, it won't work. So no damage. Final answer as they say... look at your current version release off the screen and compare. As an aside I did read this post https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/522574-update-to-version-1969/ And a followup post links to the flashing usb adaptor sold by Amazon. It's those ones that flicker people like on the map update to know something is happening.
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Well that's the advantage to Vag they have sold out responsibility to those that look after the Internet of things. Not us, they provide the service type of thing.
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You don't have to pay anything. MartiniB top post should be the current which tallies with what you have downloaded from what you said. Formatting, getting it in the route directory unzipped and suitable. Yes should install after a period. The only issues are technical issues if usb a to c adaptors are used. Formatting and generally messing it up. It can take a couple of hours or a couple of days... you check the information screen to see whether it's been updated to the map release mm.yy as MartiniB posted. That changes and you know it's done.
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& they have go slow speeds. I use buy MVNO Sim cards visiting Japan the operation parameters were quite wide. Cheaper than the Japanese main providers which you couldn't buy since you didnt have a registered address, but there was a reason why they were cheaper. They always worked thou.
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5 years ago till mib3 came along for the cheaper Vag brands. Seat and Skoda. The others got connect services more early. Yes you are probably best to cough up for the services when you got the car new then stop paying up when they stop working. The software updates come that way.
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@joek666 was using a dongle thingey which gave the car traffic data. Skoda Mib2 standard which I think you pushed any old mobile card in ?.
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Cunning. Well the mapping systems are only as good as the cartography and Google maps for one is pretty bad since it isn't a cartography company. The traffic speed data is useful but connect services is catching up. The adhoc Apple and Android Auto methods obviously provides a solution when Vag stops supporting the system. This will be a worry with connected cars although Audi were off the starters line earlier. Your probably seeing what happens when they stop supporting certain aspects of the car. It stops working or slows down.
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Yes that will avoid any slow 4g. Where Vag buys data off providers and gets it cheap. But then if it's their servers and internal data comms it won't help.
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Could be the same issue Vag has a habit of down grading it's offer as it judges the life cycle is over. Web pages disappear and slow data speeds through duff servers would be another. I recall the thread did give a pretty good explanation. I'm pleased with using old maps for mib2 standard and the mod. In the other car, mib2 high, the mod and the latest maps. Inrix isn't a bad service for giving road works and holds up. Different service to Google obviously.
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Normally there is a parts ID on the file so shouldn't load into a unit that isn't compatible. You have to study assorted firmware files and uploads to work out what it is. Firmware isn't compatible but whether you'd classify that as firmware needs studying. The maps are interchangeable within a hardware type across brands. The logos get driven by another brand ID check but compatible if it's listed. Need a youngster with mib3 🤣.
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Well it's the whole of Europe that's on the map. The search engine is probably like the Here Maps online search engine so you have to narrow it down a bit. Free text search is probably the box you are filling in, if like mib2. That there is also a tabular view of the address where people have issues getting the postcode and town names in. The design is really for zip codes where the zone is much broader than our postcodes. It's a mute point whether it uses all 7 / 8 characters of the postcode or less. Bashing the street number will get you to a more exact place if it's been house numbered. Building names of residential homes aren't in the system, so where house numbers aren't available only the street name comes in. They have centroids of the street so you end up with the centroid (mid point). Postcodes have centroids as well so they get attached to the street. Some house numbering is done synthetically where they know the range of house numbers in a street and stretch these equal distance. Think these files are bought where that occurs or student projects. It fails where a recreation ground for example occurs in the middle of the street. Spacing is wrong. Probably occurs in 5 % of the house numbers. Basically two systems running one on street names and street numbers and one on postcodes. Commercial properties have their own postcodes. Residential ones share. You are always better to get a street number in as well as the street. People cherish their postcodes... use to do GIS from the start as it was taking off, survey work, analysis, modelling and planning. GIS we got into to assist planning and modelling. Hence my interest in mapping. Census analysis, deprivation and resource allocation... hence the postcode and GIS... two are related 😉. Point mapping is where you scatter the points randomly around the postcode to get intensity. The early mib3 programmers didn't know how to handle the suite of files they got from Here Maps, you could see they were building a GIS rather than a navigation system. That's been corrected now. They were having you turning off the road into a field to the centroid. The centroid has to be attached to the road so that doesn't happen 🤣. I don't hear about that now.
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I'm not too sure what that does. @chills if they are Chillout would know. It could be just like a reboot and then took the update.... sort of stating the obvious. Bit like a Windows 11 inplace update as in 23h2 / 24h2 that resets parameters back to the default if they get corrupted. Then mib3 took the update. The question is for N Africa whether that reset had the European navigation FeC in it or in the case of the N Africa question whether the work that was done did actually update the navigation FeCs.
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Well MartiniB top post covers them all and if it's like mib2 high and you have the FeC it should work but then mib3 could work differently. I have seen a person telling someone else on mib3 to change their firmware on a straight map upgrade. EU to EU as if their version of the firmware (on a Seat) wasn't kitted out for offline map update eg. A bug. Given that the firmware between Vag brands is re - purposed it's possible there could be a bug that prevented offline map updates that has been ironed out.
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If it is like the mib2 high you probably need the navigation FeC altered to the rest of the world or specifically N Africa. I suspect it's an on the bench thing. Have you tried to just update the European maps to see whether it's taking the update. That red menu is back end menu obviously. There will be mib3 enthusiast sites and discussion forums just a question of plugging into them. Saying that as of last year little progress appears to have been made from this thread: https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/526371-how-to-unlock-mib-3-preh-with-patch/ I'm told thou that on the bench progress is suppose to have been made. Mib3 is better locked down unlike the mib2 high where you could do your own FeC activity. @East_Yorkshire_Retrofits I normally call up for their knowledge. I see they contributed to the thread above. Odis was mentioned, your dealer etc.
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My helpful hand on the subject There is a univesal fix for getting that mibsolution.one, one working.
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I did post up how to get the mib1 standard maps working over on one of those threads with the 2024 (mib1) maps hosted on mib one solutions. I did dig someone out of a hole and on the SeatCupra site where they had deleted the contents of the mib1 card. A few Googles and it's possible to get the partnumber off that you need for the workaround. We know it works on Seat's and Skodas, think VWs as well. Basically "recent" maps are still in production but not freely distributed. If you find that post you can do it. Basically the normal, people don't back up the map before deleting the contents. In the days of these updates for VW and Skoda this was fine. Seat it wasn't, probably Audi as well.
