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Yes all Europe loaded in fine. I used the German link. The others for the 16gb card are on that.
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Ah yesterday's post. @MartiniB saw that one. I'm about to put the SD in the car for all of Europe to test it out.
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Yes it jumped in the designation. Think I loosely worked it out YYMM. Means sown up or prepared in 24 and 10 was the month. Why you get the jump from 22 was that hiatus in the period before. I think there may be some ROW files still to come. One for @MartiniB .... I will test the all of Europe one and zone 1 at some point. Any sign of the mib2 high ones @MartiniB.
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Why I was asking @MartiniB incase his methods had found another file updated but I guess, when and if it's corrected it will have the same filename. So hasnt been corrected. The file sits on Skoda servers and they have a history of messing up the manufacture of zip files. They probably sorted out the European one but haven't got round to this one. There is the VW one to try that's listed. All being well come June, Skoda or Vag will have the summer release. Have to wait and see.
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Thanks. I think they can try the one 6 months before that you had listed and may be circa June there will be a new one. Hopefully. It was the Golf states that they were after. I wonder in anycase whether it's a used import European car and if so it would be the holly grail of changing the navigation FeC, so the maps wouldn't be much good without that changed. That's currently a job for a retrofitter.
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@MartiniB it's come to pass that the Skoda link for the Golf region has a CRC zip error in it using 7zip to unzip. # Gulf Region 1.9 Gb VW portal: https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/MRM1_AGCC_12PR119_CT3W-23131_Offline_Update.tar 2.8 Gb Å koda portal: https://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/OI_P129_MRM_AGCC2_202448_Offline_Update.zip I have advised that they use the VW older link. There isn't a revised Skoda one under a new title file by any chance ?.
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Not consistent then.... for Seat Phonostar don't construct their files for Seat although the connect services do get the updates, not via the download since the identity for Seat is missing but still has the holes in the logos. It's a shambles between Phonostar and Vag. Something about keeping your old mib2 car 😉. There is a broadcast identity and that has to link up to the logo so in your case they haven't got that right... Power Hit Radio is too lively for me. I did actually use Phonostar internet radio when the Kodi addon Radio... app stopped working on the migration of Kodi... but another developer released radio.de... no adverts like Phonostar and you can add your own logos.. unlike Mib3:).
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What is meant Phonostar hasn't populated the logos. I got the Phonostar TV Android app and I reckon if I searched in it I won't find them either... and you won't find them on the mib2 file either. Reckon they don't broadcast that on their Internet service so it has no logo. The achilles heel of how Vag gets it's logos. It's not been thought out. In the UK commercial stations tend to get left out. Suspect in Germany the logos are fully populated. It's just poor QA by Vag on their contract with Phonostar.
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How the maps are licensed. Seat never did get a license for free map updates on mib1 and mib2 - there are workarounds, VW and Skoda did so covering costs are within the purchase price and ongoing business of the two brands. However for those that can't do map copies to the provided SD that came with the car (there are some that dont have the ability) you can buy the card. That brings in license income for the pleasure of doing it that way. The maps belongs to HereMaps but licensed to the Vag group. I forgot to mention if you are writing the CID you need Linux or Mac... further reading. That's the method I used for the hell of finding out how it worked. https://richard.burtons.org/2016/07/01/changing-the-cid-on-an-sd-card/ The Seat Guru who did the mib2 standard workaround used widely also tested this method to understand how it works. We then subsequently found the CID on mib1 and mib2 cards are interchangeable and can be used across the Vag group. Seat customer got a £150 charge for a dealer map update was VW and Skoda get it for free unless they want to buy a new SD card. Mapcare which gives you the free updates was free to VW and Skoda. Seat in Europe wasn't free, about £150 for three years of map updates, but never sold in the UK, so dealers could mint it in. This was the Consumer Associations complaint on the conduct of car companies and map charges. VW and Skoda gave way. Mib3 maps are free to update similar now across the group held in solid state in the unit, but Seat / Cupra owners are still down trodden then they can't do radio logo updates unlike VW and Skoda. If you want a better looking car you got Seat / Cupra but blank radio logos more so than the other brands 😉. But either way you can't upload your own radio logos to infill missing ones not in the official database. That's a mib3 weakness.
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It's called a CID. It's a technique used to eek out value. You can buy another off eBay when it stops working. Originally they were 16gb but then the map cartography grew so to get all of Europe you need a 32gb card. You use the published zones for the 16gb card. A Google of eBay mib2 standard navigation mapcards will throw them up. Dealers did or do sell them but cheaper off Ebay. You just pop a new card in for Skoda. The CID on it is interchangeable between VAG brands so it doesn't have to be a Skoda card. You can also clone the CID off an existing card onto "gold cards" which have re-writeable CIDs but your disk controller has to be on the motherboard for that... a lap top. Gold cards cost more than an eBay cards and you need special closing software, so not worth it. Alternatively retrofitters sell software to take off the firmware element by hacking it. Cost again... might as well buy a Vag card. Lastly mib2 toolbox again technical, hacks the firmware.... so just invest in a spare 32gb vag card of eBay with a well scored seller. I got three cards. The original 16gb Seat one. 32 gb Skoda and a gold card I cloned for the hell of it to learn the process. Others toy with the toolbox. Just buying a 32gb Vag card off Ebay saves hacking anything. It's the easiest and cheapest solution.
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Think I'll pass on that question... they use ODIS which is the Vag system so you find somebody to do it for you. It's like the early days of mib2 high where modifying the firmware was something that you had to pay someone to do. The impression I get now is the boxes are much better locked down. Previously mib2 highs they put on the bench and rattled through a sequence of passwords to get into them. There is no reason why entry to the boxes system isn't SLA protected as the rest of the firmware, maps and radio logos. Which has a high level of protection, they just didn't put that on the backend in mib2 highs why they got hacked by retrofitters and hobbyists. Then the mib2 poi import was found not to be locked down in any form by placing code after the import. That spored all of the toolboxes. If you see mib3 toolboxes then you will know they have cracked it. Otherwise it's paying someone to use the official systems. It could be they have found how to access the backend, if so they didn't provide very good security to stop retrofitters tinkering. This one BTW https://github.com/jilleb/mib3-toolbox Is a place marker without any code so I surmise no GitHub projects. The guy who I believe I located on Briskoda says he's retired now and the Google doesn't turn up anything now: https://www.google.com/search?q=mib3+toolbox+github&client=firefox-b-m&sca_esv=214c5f27b0d18acb&sxsrf=AHTn8zoB9LCNRpM-JZLTEsv_oMDPEpTm-g%3A1742939497500&ei=aSXjZ6KhHsilhbIPlK2qmQs&oq=mib3+toolbox+github&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIhNtaWIzIHRvb2xib3ggZ2l0aHViMggQABiABBiiBDIIEAAYgAQYogQyBRAAGO8FMgUQABjvBTIFEAAY7wVIwU5QvA5YnkFwAngBkAEAmAGGAaABvAaqAQM1LjO4AQPIAQD4AQGYAgqgAtEIwgIKEAAYsAMY1gQYR8ICBhAAGBYYHsICCxAAGIAEGIYDGIoFwgIFECEYoAHCAgcQIRigARgKmAMAiAYBkAYIkgcDMy43oAfJJLIHAzEuN7gH_Qc&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp So I reckon the hobbyists are out of it now.
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As it happens a Turkish guy is posting on Seatcupra like you. Seems the cars are sold prepped for navigation. You need to check with a retrofitter. Probably for legal reasons they don't come with the map enabled. In there case a retrofitter enabled it. They were irritated that the dealer had one on display with nav but sold without. Seems common. You need the navigation FeCs activated if that's the case.
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It's also done on part number so they can leave off the part number by accident. That was an old Vag thing with POI updates. This only works with VW and Skoda anyhow. Not Seat / Cupra. What was the car model, year etc to see whether anyone else has had success. Btw those usb c to a converters sometime cause issues. Some are not fully wired for data.
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You need to check the infotainment unit model to see whether it was built with satnav. No satnav and you won't get it. Even if it has you may well find it can't be activated without a dealership. Some files and modules about turning US into EU or vice versa. Leaked files reported here. I get the impression that little head way has been made but if they have its on other forums. It's all locked down with encryption as it never was in mib2.
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For what it's worth I think there are mib3 units sold without navigation outside of "Europe" they seem to have turned up on Seat boards. They are a bit like the old mib2s that never had navigation built in called media units from memory, if it's one of them you are stuck. As per the question above... the next question these guys then ask is for a firmware update 🫣. The old SSPs that covered mib2 units covered them, suspect if there is an SSP in mib3 you'd see them.
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Reckon it will always be like that. A built in wind up of mib3 after they closed the door of importing your own. You could work on the basis that if it's in the phonostar app it should be in the logos. Have Android TV app loaded. If they don't provide that radio service as an Internet service then it's highly unlikely I reckon to be in the logo database. VAG ride on the back of their work for Internet radio provision using their logo management... well that's what I reckon.
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You could work on the basis that the mib2high icons are the same. They can be extracted and looked at via SQLITE as I recall. The mibsolution people load those back into their own apps for mib2. That's one way of checking whether your radio station logo is there. What MartiniB suggested in one conversation. Either way it isn't an update but a complete refresh. A replacement. I've looked at them when conversations come up about missing logos. Afraid mib3 is the pits for this, mib2 you could back fill the missing stations yourself.
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I only code things that are not obvious. Stop / start I revert back when it serviced. Mind you I did mess up the maps, being a Seat mib2 high they don't have life long Mapcare like Skodas. Learning curve then. Nobody really knew then. It appears mib3 firmware is more complex so user modification isn't a good idea... I reckon. Map updates are fine but adjusting the firmware is more problematic. Connect services if available in the country take care of firmware updates and you can always go back to the dealer if it fails. Outside of Europe where connect services don't exist DIY on firmware updates can be problematic.
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For what it's worth on 5 & 6 I did posted all the navigation PDFs on this post if its a question of interpretation. https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/updating-the-inbuilt-mib3-satnav-offline.472408/ Given you'd got the firmware in I assumed you'd probably mastered unzip the navigation file correctly. You use 7 zip ideally to unzip. You have to get the files in the route. As far as looking for the original file you could probably pick any file before or at that date in the Vag group. Mib mapcare works by allowing you to install upto and before so if it's that. Before your original map would be fine if you can find a mib3 map before that period. Also on that other thread we were told how to read the mm.yy which might come in use when looking for files if you need to go backwards before going forward. You do this looking on a separate file copy so as to not corrupt the good copy.
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As well as that it may need the Vag mothership being told the firmware was swapped continents why AA etc has vanished. In other wards the FeCs have been wiped. So yes the firmware used is important. On MartiniB main thread people have come along trying to get European cars with Mib3 working in Africa. Old chestnut with mib2. Mib2 high no maps. Mib2 standard you could adjust the map file to work. Can't do that with mib3, SLA locked. It seems there are package modules that can change Europe into America but one to do that for Africa hadn't been found. This will be all closed information and files leaked out from Vag. Wrong firmware on the unit may render the FeCs... enablement switches off. There is a mib enthusiast group that lurks on a message board might be able to help. Probably those files are coming from them posted up on Mibsolution but without the documentation. As is the way that website operates. They are lifted off the Vag dealer systems but the notes don't get published with them.
