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MartiniB you haven't managed to find where the YY.MM is published in those files. Reckon it's not in the ascii readable ones. @pcbbc add our software expert to this. This is the question of which is most up-to-date Skoda, VW or Seat.

The solution is to fix it yourself since the maps are basically a legacy product, not too long to go on updates now. VAG have this ability too drop support pretty quickly as they move from mib 2 to mib 3 in 2020 so pretty unlikely they would have lifted a finger. The official user POI import and destination import went in circa 2020. They keep the map updates going historically 5 years after moving onto the new mib which changes the map updates. Now 3 years into that. Thanks to pcbbc and bigade1 user solutions exist.... enjoyed the narrow lane messages this week on a mib2 standard. I'm sure Traffic Master didn't have that one 👏. It is useful. Swapped the maps over since one knew one was heading into a busy part of the world.

👍 😍 😉 I normally fumble about in there looking for mib2 standard and mib2 high. Sure stuff gets moved about. There is the answer then. The go to place.

If users POIs you either get all of them or none by toggling on and off. You can create your own user POIs for import with Poinspector. Needs some effort to setup but works.

It's an entry level mib2 as you probably know. True not much on it. Normally you would look on the mibsolution.one web site, Guest, guest. Nothing springs out.

It's in the map files those segments of road which have a set of flags that can be toggled on and off are not implemented in the mib2 standard map files after V12 for Inrix as TomTom cartography files that are used didn't get it implemented. Guess whoever prepares the files for mib2 standard (it's a commercial company) streamlined their systems to just import the traffic master files. V12 were based on HereMaps and included the flags for Inrix. Pcbbc described it in the thread. Why the Ozzie solution also uses V12 for that reason. Pcbbc who produced those two files short cuts the need for mib2 standard tool kit which the Ozzies used in their solution which was got working in the UK. The toolkit approach washed the files through the system whilst those two sets has the washing done for you. Clever guys on the thread.

Why I said visually check for file structure. Short cut.

It's whether it's a mib2 standard which these files are for.

Well if you take a copy of your map card and try the new file you won't have lost anything. What you replace it with unzipped should look like what's on it now on the file structure, if not, it's not compatible. Pass on what an RNS315 is exactly.

How it works. Pcbbc is the expert but it populates those geographical tags and updates them. The radio bandwidth limits the speed that it comes down at. Hence it builds up over a short period.

Mib2 standard the SD based one you need V12 and patches on the thread. Mib2 high, the Columbus one the coding solution will work with the latest maps or anything before. The SD solution you trade latest maps against TMC. You can put it on another Vag card and use the solution that takes your fancy on the day of driving.

The conversation goes on a bit from that point. I guess you look to see what is in the V2 fragments using those tools / code / python against what was in it previously.

I suspect the clue is in here but I never looked to see how he did it... We await his arrival. Too old for programming now 🤣.

@bigade1 and @pcbbc Bigade1 got it working using the mib2 standard tool box and VCDS coding. Pcbbc removed the need for the tool box by recompiling those modules.

@pcbbcon your Techinsat has recompiled some files to make it work in the UK. Are you sure if you don't do the the v2 solution posted above it doesn't knock you onto the other group which would work for you?. The fix might be already here. You use v12 maps linked above plus replace the modules as shown. Might be worth a try. There is a grouping of TMC providers which might include the one you want. Basically VW one's were "free", the others are "pay". If your target is in the pay one then you might be fine. On the mib2 high, if the 15->14 works on the disconnected suspect that the mib2 standard fix will work.

That's management consultant watch reading where they borrow your watch to tell you the time 😉. Some people like to use the built in maps. No faffing with connections just drive. Ofcourse those external solutions need AA / Car Play. I wouldn't trust my tablet on turn for turn navigation not falling asleep. A lot of roads are missing from Google, farm tracks that aren't roads, builders roads on new estates, the real estate roads missing. The quality of the cartography is wanting at time. POIs misplaced. The travel time stuff is more accurate thou since its using real time data gleaned from other users from their apps GPS. Waze is just crowd sourcing. Only as good as the crowd that add to it. The cheap answer to TMC. Horses for courses.

Probably just needs a software expert. Problem is you need the unit and be a software expert so solutions start to get thin on the ground. Fortunate that the Here Maps cartography and toolkit built into their files is flexible enough for the purpose so the starting point is, is the cartography of Here Maps / the company they came from in both cases, then you might be in with a chance. The Australians seem to be good at adapting the setup to their market which is how the mib2 standard one came from and PCbbc's special source on those files. Decrypt of what was in them. Bridage had the solution via the mib2 standard toolkit but generalisation needed coding. For mib2 high it was just changing the coding which picks up groups of TMC providers across international markets. The well engineered approach to the files allowed that.

There is one post on the thread where it's said the coding solution works for a mib1. Suspect that was the Columbus mib1 since that post came in ahead of it being sorted out for the map card based units. My trick I use when it's not clear what people have is to read the part number of the hardware off a picture of the screen then do an image Google. Sellers often show the label on the unit. Zooming in you get to read the label. A photo shown of the map code installed also quickly gives the game away. Circa 2015 on to 2020 it will be mib2 standard / high (Amundsen / Columbus) before not mib2. So you might get that mib1 fix on a Columbus unit prior to 2015 or there abouts of that vintage (fee based code 14 rather than 15) if it's one of those. Mib2 on VW and Audi might have Delphi rather than Technisat. Looking at the mibsolution firmware library Delphi units didn't get installed in Skoda or Seat. The check whether it's a Technisat (the one it works with) if it starts with MST2 and ends with T, MST2_EU_??_XX_XXXXT its a Technisat and the solution works. The test posted above. I determined they only appear on Audi and VW.

Mine did once disappear from a Seat Arona. Think that was a programming issue in Obdeleven end. It interfaces with their servers. It did get fixed in the end. Might be something similar a bug with a specific model. It was fine on my Ateca.

That will be the case of the missapearing control unit then. You got the Pro license in fine ?. That code you type in that unlocks the Pro side. There is the Obdeleven forum, their help screens and Briskoda Obdeleven users. Suspect it's straight forwards to fix.

It's in the 5f unit. The engine needs to be running. Obviously you have to set it up for your car. I got my training aid here: https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/obdeleven-tool-for-vcds-type-of-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca-part-1-of-2.44/ They are the control units. The 5f unit is the infotainment unit. Hitting adaptations and search for fee-based... or TMC should pick up the line. mib2 high (Columbus) you do that way. If its the map card based system you don't need Obdeleven, you mod the map card. That's the decision point earlier on. Always a good idea to do the error scan then go into the modules to change. In the past I've found it doesn't like you to change things if you haven't scanned for errors. How the program works with their mothership back at the ranch.

Distribution is like teletext of old why it built up over a period. Guess it has some way of rewriting the geo graphical zone with an update when it has one to give which you wait your turn for 😉. That's the lag you are seeing as the bandwidth to send the data will have limits. Perhaps it's like the old Grandstand teletype you have to wait for the football results to come in. The assumption is you aren't at the locality so some leeway till you get the information and require to act on it. Somebody will have done the modelling on that basis to say, yeah this is adequate in % of cases based on the capacity of the system, rate of traffic reports to provide and ability to act on them.

There is Ozzie discussion on here but no break through yet; https://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f78/additional-tmc-provider-mib2-discover-pro-units-heretraffic-134851-5.html

I think the Highway Agency folk have swapped to Inrix from my reading and what's been posted up. They are using Inrix themselves....

We'll get @pcbbconto looking at that 🤣. If it's that it needs someone who is technical with the unit. Any Ozzies with it may have found a solution then that informs what needs to be done here. If it's a Technisat then the drag and drop copy needs to be checked to make sure it overwrote what was there. If swapping map cards a reboot is a good idea. That's the long hold on the on/off switch till the boot screen comes up, let go then It will then read the data on the card from fresh... might skip that with a card swap. Worth a try.