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Success works fine on the default TMC value of 15. I put it on demo mode having found a road closure and did a test drive towards the closed road. It spun round and took a different route. Minehead at the minute.👌 Tested to destruction. So that's good no coding is required.

Will let one of the others have a go, otherwise it will be next Saturday with the car out again trapped behind the building work unless they get rained off. Sounds good if it works.

The latest maps are V18 V18 dbinfo file: ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="2110" PartNumber2="5NA919866DP" PartNumber3="V03959820MP" PartNumber4="V03959821AL" PartNumber5="" SystemName="ECE1 2024" V12 dbinfo file: ApplicationSoftwareVersionNumber="1430" PartNumber2="5NA919866AR" PartNumber3="5L0051236BR" PartNumber4="6P0919866BK" PartNumber5="7CE919866BC" SystemName="ECE AS 20/21" (18-12)=6/2=3 years (2 releases a year) or on the year mark although VAG slid six months... so yes 3 years give or take 6 months.

On the first I often answer this question on the SeatCupra site. Have my last answer here to that one: https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/obdeleven-formentor-see-below-for-working-ones.465537/page-23#post-5037146 I didn't link to the Obdeleven site. Canny buyers buy it of Amazon Prime, just the dongle and buy the license online from the Obdeleven site. Quicker that way. You add up the costs and make the devision. VCDS will be more expensive. On cartography. Mib2 standard uses TomTom. Mib2 High HereMaps. Both sites give reporting pages via regustering. TomTom you mark up and tell them giving as much evidence. HereMaps you draw in yourself. On both you check days later to see whether it is held and not rejected. Website for Reporting TomTom Cartography issues (used by mib2 standard): Mapshare You need the mapshare edit side: http://www.tomtom.com/mapshare/tools Website for Reporting HereMaps Cartography issues (used by mib1 standard & high, mib2 high, mib3 all models): https://mapcreator.here.com/ TomTom seem less validated to me than HereMaps on road builds not open. HereMaps try not to put them on their maps till live. The execution of the maps are better in mib2 high than standard. I've got both so note the differences in what it's showing on roundabouts etc.

Was 15. Was going to say. Tried 14 for good measure. Nope. You can use the two card solution. Popped the SD in the wallet in case we take the run around into any traffic but I'm normally the navigator so do a check on Google maps before heading out 🤔. TMC and online traffic comes into it's own if you haven't got a codriver 🤗. As you know in the mib2 high you can modify the routes by dragging and dropping which you can't in mib2 standard. So sometimes modify the HereMaps route against the Google one. Traffic condition on busy roads can change quickly where the human navigator has an issue...

You definitely need to code 1023 into it. Was able to get the car backed out of the garage, obdeleven plugged in. Step 4 isn't really a check, it's you must do it. In obdeleven 5f module adaptations, search: Change to give: Reboot the unit to get it to take it. You need to do steps 1 to 3 as per the post then it works. You need to wait a minute or two for it to take. It builds indexes according to posts on the mod so the TMC has a cross through it but will change after a little while. Example: So yes it works in a Seat standard unit. You need the workaround thou for Seat (move your existing overall.nds file if you map version is before v12). Skoda and VW are fine in this respect.

The solution as posted by @bigade1as I understand it is a development of the techie Aussies that did similar to get it to work with their system. @pcbbcthen took the need out of it to use the mib2 standard toolbox / kit by altering those files which takes out the hassle. Up to V12 and including the files were produced using HereMap cartography by a German company who had the contract from VAG. After V12 the maps switched to TomTom in the process they dropped support for other / some of the other TMC providers. Graphics and logic triggered by over the air TMC data. Possibly another two year of map updates to go either way for mib2 based on current support for mib in the past.

Probably. I've done 1-3 in a mib2 standard but the car is stuck in the garage with building work going on behind it so I can't connect up OBD11 with the engine running. Saturday hope to roll the car out with the builders not working behind and see what is actually stored in that location. With 1-3 currently doesnt enable TMC. It isn't a Delphi unit. I'll let you know Saturday whether I get any further. The 1023 is based on this post: https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/enabling-tmc-in-the-uk-is-it-possible.386243/page-2 If it's 1023 at the minute and not working one outcome. If it's not 1023 and I change it and it works another outcome. I got a feeling it would be 1023 at the minute but may be for the old system is set at another number. It's Seat Arona for reference.... just read the pcbbc post that came in whilst doing this. We'll see.

Throw this in and it might be random. Has it got anything to do with when mapcare was discontinued on the brand. Later models of VW and Skoda discontinued mapcare but if you had maps prior to V12 and implemented V12 without a mapcare workaround then it wouldn't work if mapcare was still being deployed. I said it was random but just an idea. If V12 maps worked on that problem unit without the TMC patch then it wouldn't be that. That's the check.

I make a mib2 Delphi the mib2 standard aka mib2 media unit not the high. If it uses the map card you use the map card solution above, if it's a mib2 high (SSD storage) you alter the TMC value as indicated using obdeleven pro, VCDS etc. If it's a mib2 high I detailed how to unlock the developers menu here with obdeleven pro. You might not have the pro license so you can't and I've never tried on a mib2 standard. Gives you the green menu and swdl command but don't reckon you need that for this task. Swdl gives you incremental updates of elements of the high maps and installing previous software on a high unit... for what it's worth. Mib2 high tool kit will also unlock the developers menu also. https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/obdeleven-tool-for-vcds-type-of-activity-working-ones-for-the-ateca.438134/page-2#post-4730643

I pointed you to this release of the maps which would appear to be the correct release for the unit. If you check North Africa isn't on the maps. There may be a chance that some of North Africa is in the maps and the documentation is not correct. "Herewego" app shows what is in the Here Map cartography database but of course this may not be used by the developers that generate the final files for VAG. You wont know this until the maps are loaded up. You could ask a board that uses ROW to look at North Africa. That link above is used mostly for European users. So this link you are posting on is for the wrong map series. Suggest you ask on an Australian Audi board before you embark on changing anything. The mib helper web site is developed by enthusiasts as documentation, you really need an enthusiast Audi board where you can ask for assistance. The ROW navigation FeC is critical to get the unit working. Thus you can chase down the other Columbus link similar to the one above where I had the previous conversation. A set of button pushed will show your current FeCs you see whether the mib2 high RoW navigation FeC on yours is a life long navigation FeC. Import units may well be the European FeC. A check will reveal. As I said I did help a past Australian with an import unit get there unit on RoW. It is all on this board but shown under a different period release of the Columbus maps. Another Audi owner that popped up here. Either way the work is technical and you are dealing with high value units which you can mess up.

If it's really a mib2 high you need the other link to the Columbus. ROW, then you need the FeC update and you have to use mib tools to update the FeC for the Row. Conversation on a previous release I had with an Australian. It's Audi navigation FeC that stop you from updating the maps same as Seat one's on the mib2 high. Assuming it's really a mib2 high. Read back posts of the release. The mib tool will sort this out but out of the box gives you European FeCs. You edit in the RoW FeC and update. Then load maps.

Have you got North African maps already ?. You take a copy of what you have as a fall back and try. If it's a mib2 standard Audi it may use a type of mapcare. The Seat workaround may work. I've never heard of it being used on Audi. Skoda and VW don't need it since they were kind to customers. Audi aren't so. If you have a European unit and you want non European maps and it's a mib2 standard then the link may help. Either way you must back up any official SD cards so you can recover from any experiments. Some joint working between Seat and the VW Transporter board got European import VAG cars working outside Europe and US VW import to Europe working on European maps. Esoteric once you deploy the Seat workaround which you needed on VWs at this level. More uptodate units became more fussy with the original T6 transporter method. Think they were mib2.5. https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/resources/updating-the-inbuilt-mib2-satnav-mib2-tricks-and-lost-mib1-card-solution.60/

Yes I think that's the stumbling block Skoda will get you if you were to retrofit a unit since you'd need a valid VIN for it.... all fun.

Reckon thats pretty old. I believe the series trains are similar between Skoda and Seat. Tiles came after... ? Or whatever the youngsters want 😍.

Oops got that backwards... If 15 going to be 14 to get it to work. 5 character then it's the 5 characters 32782 . There was one post where a unit was different to pcbbc starting point.

You'd fumble the menus looking for Wi-Fi is how you know the difference but as you say there will be a part number. I think the firmware will be the same once they released the unit. Seat has no special firmware for the Wi-Fi units with mib2. So it must be wrapped up in the software. My guess is they progressed on to a train where it covers both types of units, the original and the Wi-Fi enabled one's. May be Skoda is different. Its the 5 series or 4 series train for Seat when I believe Wi-Fi arrived to some of the units. They were shipping both. The Karoq of Joek666 like the Ateca will have had it. Later Leon3 got them. They were really designed to support connected services and those experiments they did on integration to apps. Might be useful or not if you have VCDS / Obdeleven: https://forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/10862/ I suspect there isn't a chipset doing nothing that just needs turning on. Our Arona 2018 has a mib2 standard without wifi, same time period they were fitting the wifi units into the upper end cars. Mib2 high in my Ateca when you could specify what you wanted as an option.

Yes that's pcbbc to thank for cracking that one... you need to do the one here. Get the guy to peak at the current tmc code and change Some units have a slightly different 5 digit starting off point but you finish with the one shown. If 14, it's going to be 15. Save and reboot.

Vag introduced a mib2 standard Wi-Fi enable one. Probably that I reckon. The base unit and the fancy one that came later. Wasn't fitted to all Seats. So yes it will be the Wi-Fi flavour standard one with matching firmware. Created chaos with POI import programs which people had written since nobody knew the ID code the firmware used when running the scripts to bring in the POIs. That code was in the firmware updates. Those were the Wi-Fi standard mib2 one's.

I have an EE pre loaded annual 120gb data SIM from Amazon £50 stuffed in my tablet. Slight overkill for the tablet. No sign up, just pop it in. £28 is their lower cost options for 6gb. EE flog the data off via these data SIMs but don't really publish it. Connected services never came to Seat mib2 standard. Mib2 high was experimental with connected services and they pulled the plug on the app. When Seat were testing their app writing skills. Alex and Google maps integration. 1gb app. You needed to use a hot spot and early mib2 high on Seat were missing the menu option to put the unit it in the right mode. They were shipped in hot spot mode but no data SIM slot in the unit. Again VCDS / coding to unlock that menu. Mib3 a fair few people come out of data contracts and use alternative for data but the connected services. That Spanish company they use for data. Slow data speeds.

That bit is identical to obdeleven Press the button “5F Information Electr.” Press the button “Adaptation - 10” In the “search” box type “TMC” Then type in and save 😉

2016 that would be a mib2 high. The later would be sounds like mib1 high. Before my time. Mib2 maps you update with @MartiniB excellent links. 330 is the release. You need a 64gb standard SD card to be safe... gets marginal on 32gb. If using a Mac you need to use cleanmydrive after its on the SD else it will trip on the signature due to mac rubbish in the download. PCs are fine. That's the map. Then it's @pcbbcpost Horses for courses. If you want DIY you buy an https://obdeleven.com/en/home/62-pro-pack-0758277987813.html That's the black one works with Android or iOS. White one cheaper Android only. You can mix and match just the device and Pro license. Some people buy from Amazon on next day delivery then buy the Pro license online. Then once installed you do a scan. Then in to the 5f unit. Adaptions. Search TMC. Put the correct code in as per pcbbc, save long hold on green button of app. Reboot the unit. 10 second hold on, on / off. Job done. My example on the 14 code for mib2 highv

Yes just look at their % approval score. Where my Skoda 32gb came from and I did make one using a so called Gold card for fun. Cheaper to buy a Vag card off ebay. Basically the CID on all Vag cards are interchangeable. How Vag makes money on sales of map cards.

Didn't touch distributed control system till the Vag platform 😍.

The 12 points Seat workaround above are with a valid VAG SD card ofcourse. They are not fussy whether it's VW, Skoda or Seat mib2 cards. You need that for the CID. So for a two card set up you need a second Vag card if the software isn't hacked to take any card using the toolbox mentioned. The Seat workaround you deploy if the map is later than the card (higher number). For those downgrading maps you wouldn't need to. Ie. If you had v11 card and a Seat you would need the workaround. V13 say you would not need it in that instance for V12 with the mods above.