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It's in the self training material for Audi for Mib3 atleast. Attached that above. You would have to sit in a Skoda with Mib3 and look for it as a cross check.
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If you pay for connected services it comes over the air but it's also in mib3 as broadcast TMC as well. They will be stuffed. The dealer training material for Audi mib3 is here. MC-10189329-0001.pdf
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Yes 2020 when they moved to mib3 so units from circa 3 years old affected not 13 years ago.
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I wouldnt jump trains which is 3* to 4* probably end in tears. People mod the train up. Changing software gives you an SVM, the confirmation code in the 5F unit you put through https://mib-helper.com/im-so-xory/ Then puthing the return code into confirmation code least in Obdeleven Pro. Anyhow it won't help since it's not old firmware that's the issue.
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This thread isn't for the latest maps so you need the 330 release see below if you haven't found it but that isn't your technical issue. The instructions I was talking about are here, my 11th November post, the VW how to PDF. The gold standard: So your issue will be a presentation issue only of not presenting the update as expected (You have a mib2 high, tick, a Skoda so not a navigation FeC issue, tick, using Windows so not a Mac issue tick). That leaves not unzipped or at the wrong directory level down in how it's presented etc (see PDF in thd link). Also good to pull other cards out so it only sees the media. You are suppose to use 7zip for the unzip process. Others can give a problem. Basically the unit reads the files and checks the integrity of the files from the signatures and checksum. If they don't pass it won't see the update. Not in the correct level is another - see the PDF, not unzipped correctly, or not using a valid file system, Fat32 for the 32gb card, exFat for above cards, or NTFS for USB and it wont work. Those are the outstanding issues to check. Suppose to be in Fat32, 32gb SD card but the maps have outgrown some cards, you use say 64gb in exFat if that's the case or USB in NTFS (That isn't in the instructions above). I mention that if after using the latest you find they wont fit on the card. I did use to say only stick to the 32GB card but since the maps have expanded above what some 32GB cards can handle now, you can get issues if you don't get the file system right for exFat on big SD cards or NTFS for USB. So that was the other issue people hit. The latest maps are here: Release 330. Your 166 you see on the screen will become 330 when successful. They are the June 2023 release found early by MartiniB in April. I think poster drifted threads at this point so you might be using the latest or may be not. The Mod John needs to pin that thread above and un-pin this one so people find the latest at the top else people grab the wrong files.
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Did you use a Mac for the download ?. Macs leave a load of Mac generated rubbish in the file which causes the validation of files to fail if you presented them incorrectly. Happy go lucky Mac users fall into this trap. You download with Keka, copy to the SD card then run CleanMyDrive on the SD card, then insert it into the unit. Failing that its a presentation issue. See the manual posted on the other threads, can't get one uploaded at the minute. Failing that if it's it's not a Skoda or VW then it will be your navigation FeCs. They need to be long FeC.
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I'll see if I can get any comments from the Mib collective as I call them on the TMC LTNs location.
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A. No B. Yes C. Pass D. Well there is a hobbyist Mib2 Telegram group of software experts. I have been considering posting it up on one they read. It's around getting the unit to read the other network in the UK that still broadcasts. It is a specific UK issue so those resident abroad can't really experiment. Australian and I think NZ experience is useful you find on the net. I live in the sticks so I doubt it would receive those broadcasts to experiment, so I'm not going to try. Basically it's either going to be a hack solution to get it on that network if possible or navigation users including Vag coughing up to pay TMC to continue the service. Commercially the one Vag uses folded via the FM / DAB service. Not sure whether they used both bands or not. That just leave the These hobbyists are the best bet I reckon if there is no commercial solution they know the ins and outs of mib2. https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash But they probably haven't looked at hitching it up on a different TMC provider than those its paired with. There are some UK people on the software side that work with them.... thinking about it. That link is one of their mib2 high tools. There is a mib2 standard group somewhere as well. They produce the toolkits for the standard unit. Those folk that will know the inner workings of how it all hangs together and what's possible. It needs to be put on Inrix rather than Traffic Master as has been said on the thread. Some 2021 discussion technical here. Needs a champion. https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/enabling-tmc-in-the-uk-is-it-possible.386243/
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If its like Seat / Cupra you'll go through updates which may or may not fix it. Down to the quality of your dealer reading the VAG firmware update material, what the assorted systems are on in the car. They have to all match correctly so they talk to each other correctly. Then you have to have the user login correct. All VAG cars are built with the same core code but embellished with logos etc. They tend to fix VW issues first then work onto the sub brands. Mib3 was a particular disaster for Vag. Yours will be in that area.
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That one falls into the category of online connected cars where the Vag software is problematic rather than TMC where Vag and other companies presumably didn't renew the contract so the Traffic Master pulled the plug.
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Or Seat. It uses a CID which it identifies it as a valid VAG card. It's how they generate income. Those who are too lazy to use their old issued card buy a new one and VAG gets income from it. If it's bust and they do wear out you but a new one and VAG gets income. You can hack the unit to use normal SD cards but probably not worth it. You'll see Mr Fixit shove normal SD cards in the unit after its been hacked, but hacking only works with certain firmware. Mr Fixit gets his income off YouTube videos by publishing dubious methods. Best to stick with the VAG cards. CID: https://www.cameramemoryspeed.com/sd-memory-card-faq/reading-sd-card-cid-serial-psn-internal-numbers/ With the correct card you can write your own CID but those cards cost more than the genuine card. Did it once for the hell of it. You need a "gold card". This is where you need to be careful with eBay sellers they may be using cheap Chinese gold cards in a scam. Where you need to check the star rating. You only need to buy a new card when it gives up the ghost or want a 32gb card if yours is the old 16gb.
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Suspect it needs a DIY fix if possible other than that the reasons for pulling the plug on the services will stop it (cost) eg. marry it up to the other service. It did vanish for a week or so last year or the year before but this is permanent so it appears linked solely to one of the two UK providers of traffic services. Not European wide.
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Vag is notorious at pulling the plug early on things it's deemed are finished. This one is specific to the UK market and a group of manufacturers that use it and fund it. Will be interesting to see whether they raise to the occasion to fix it other than that I quess you are looking to a DIY approach along the lines of that link above of fiddling with the parameters. It has the highly respected coding expert DV52 / Don on it. May be Audi are thinking they might get the unit working on the other service if they are paying for it ?. Question is whether there is a DIY solution to that since other VAG brands wouldn't be doing a recall just for that. Any DIY is going to be developed in the UK with a collective of experts on the subject. Meantime cross checking with Google Maps and AmiGo. My normal navigator roll before heading off or if driving back from somewhere.
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Interesting read here for anyone who wants to have a go: https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/index.php?threads/enabling-tmc-in-the-uk-is-it-possible.386243/page-3
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You got Exciter to thank for that in 2017 when he cracked it. All Seat sites publish that now. Was called the "workaround" by the Seat Cupra site. Seat UK for mib2 decided not to sell Mapcare. It's bundled in free with VW and Skoda. Audi and Seat elected to continue to sting owners if they wanted to upgrade their maps. In Europe they sold Mapcare which gave you a 3 year license of updates. Another way of cracking it is to add long life navigation FeCs which is what VW and Skoda have. Those cracks are now known for mib2. There are some infotainment VCDS flags you can change for the traffic services. I guess some one has looked at this ?. In the 5F unit. Suspect some bright folk might have thought of that. It's how you anchor the unit to paid traffic services. Needs someone to experiment may be ?.
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They also changed away from the mib2 high naming convention a few years back so the xxxx/yyyy was the same but isn't anymore so with the standard and high only best to talk in the release code rather than the year one... Any how for me else I say the wrong stuff mixing the standard and high naming convention. That came about when the standard maps were not published at a six month period. Then Skoda moved onto the six month lag. Neither Skoda or Seat can you trust to publish the latest release, only VW does and this release is the one laying on their servers waiting for the web page for June to be linked to it. Joek666 you can register on the TomTom site and tell them about missing roads and mistakes. Mib2 standard maps are TomTom. Mib2 high and Mib3 are Here Maps cartography. I tell them about all local developments then you get the publishing lag of 6 months or so. Many I've told both companies are now in. If I hadn't of told them they wouldn't have been in. I don't tell Google since they are refusing to remove a local farm track that people use as a public road. It's mud and cuts into no through road where a delivery driver using that route ran over a dog. I've got that off the other mapping systems. Some home Charlie mappers enter farm tracks as roads and they get incorrectly published. The council planning maps managed by Ordance Survey are the defacto street maps with features. They are commercial maps that OS sell in digital form but since they cost cartography companies in the UK don't use them and don't validate against them. It's those maps that you can browse if you know where to look which reveal features the armchair mappers miss, like bollard in roads to stop cars. They don't tell you road speeds or direction of traffic but do reveal statuary public roads and house numbers etc. Used by the post office in their postcode house numbering system. The council annotate house numbers, post office allocate the postcode and grid reference. All part of the geo information system in the UK. They contain the land use, planning orders etc.
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It's the naming convention that VAG use. 2110 is the release code for the June 2023 release. Any code lower and they are older maps. VAG did introduce an ambiguity in their naming convention but if you go by the release code you won't be wrong. Skoda themselves release six months later. So the November release will be the June release of Vag. Like heated up old bread of old, fresh bread cooked six months ago.
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John, that's the name. What you need on each release is to note the new release on the old thread (like here) so followers get the nototication, the link to the new thread and tell John to get it pinned. Anyhow all very good. I see the mib3 ones get posted up on an Italian Leon thread. I guess there will be a similar interest in these. You don't fancy finding those similarly ?. Example the forth post down on here: https://forum-auto.caradisiac.com/topic/468096-mises-à-jours-logiciel-leon-4/page/49/ For those out of contract on mib3 connect services they can do a similar update. Now tested on Seats. Looking at the Seat and Skoda web pages of their links they were old whilst the VW was up-to-date to the last November release. Needs your program twigged for sniffing out these. Mib3 VW one for that was https://navigation-maps.volkswagen.com/vw-maps/EUR_9PR085_FCT3WS-22105_Offline_Update.tar The Italian guy has published the series to this one there, other than that you register with the VW site and check.
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So he did but you need the mention on the old thread for direction then Mr Mod.... terrible with names will pin it.
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Or June. June / November are the VW publishing dates but get found by MartiniB in advance more often than not.
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PS I'd format it to exFat and start again.
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I don't think there is a limit but use exFat. I did some timings and NTFS is slow on an SD card. Above 32gb you change to exFat on SD cards. Best not to have a love in with NTFS. That's a HD formatting method. I did come across a Skoda site recently if not VW that warned the 32gb SD card limit is broken (which we knew you can't guarantee it will fit with the November 2022 release, so it's now official you need a bigger card) telling you to buy bigger.... I didn't bookmarket thou. 64gb card that I've got ready. Also there is a limit that you won't get above on speed that I posted up on the November 2022 release thread. The upshot of that was dont buy really fancy cards the chipset in the infotainment unit probably wont work any faster. You can do it via USB and that will be NTFS in that case. Macs can floor you but I don't think you were using that. CleanMyDrive and Keka is the order of the day on them. The latest thread with the links to the map files... difficulties etc. SD v USB etc. My musing and timing might be on another release of the maps. Conversations spill across like this one. On buying SD cards you are unlikely to get speeds above the 100 MB/s due to the chip set in the unit. I posted that up somewhere. Golden rule SD 32GB fat32 SD >32GB exFat USB (big) NTFS Beware Macs need the CleanMyDrive and Keka. Follow the unzipping instructions. Attached VW gospel but doesn't cover the new >32gb SD card which it should. Tells you location etc on the copy. Discover_Pro_November_2020_EN.pdf
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Columbus means it's a high. The maps are held on an SSD rather than SD. If you stab away at the media button and see "Juke box" it's a high. The spare SSD space is offered up for a juke box. That's the easy check. Think you know if you had a mib3. The 2.5 was an interim unit but all the same download for the mib2 high which is the generic name between VAG brands. Different firmware, same map update. Mib2 standard is otherwise called an Amundsen in Skoda naming. That's the one with the map card.... the other thread. The high is the RR one. Uses Here Maps cartography. Amundsen uses Tom Tom cartography. The screens in that aren't executed so well on roundabout. Slower to react but does.
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