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  1. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    You just buy a 32gb vag card off ebay, Skoda, VW or Seat. Deleting files is a hack and it will catch up with you as the cartography and POIs expand. However if you are tight for money / don't believe in wasting things this was the method reported on the last release: It could be that this no longer works as the growth in data has caught up with it. When VAG became aware that the all Europe map was going to out grow the 16gb mib2 card they gave ample warning by about two years. That is why they released the zones so you pick the zone you drive in. They also released the 32gb card. Reckon it's been about 5+ years since they originally gave the indication that the all Europe map would breach the 16gb card. Three or so years since it did. The original hack for people who were tight or just wanted to experiment was to delete all language files other than their own. As expected this hack became not enough. So more aggressive hacking was required. Either way it's going to catch up with you as the cartography growth is quicker than what can be hacked out as not required. Saying that the mib2 releases probably only has a couple of more years to run based on the 5 year support cycle that VAG operates on past map files. Always advice buy a 32gb Vag card if you are planning to drive across all regions of Europe or just use one of the zoned regions. For the vast majority of people that will be fine. Only if you holiday or your work takes you across the zoned regions do you need the 32gb card.

  2. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Joco's situation was compounded by using a firmware update off train and customer stuff so I reckon that element is off topic here. The rest was presentation of the map file. In his case on the USB which is the custom bit. You use the Vag SD card normally and all works if presented correctly.

  3. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    There are a few reliable retrofitters in the country that know about these things. East Yorkshire Retrofit is one. This guy is their specialist. He's sorted out fair few Seat people who have messed up their units by meddling with the software. If local that's an option. He might say don't bother. https://northeastvagadaptions.co.uk/

  4. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Generally when the maps are loaded in the first time there is a delay. Think it writes new FeCs in, how on Seats you get a collection of FeCs when you use the "workaround" for Mapcare that isn't required on Skoda and VW so there is a first time day. You do have the 20 minute power on after turning off and if the infotainment system is left on, unlocking starts the process. Probably enjoying that one.

  5. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Took a little time to pick it up off the USB, presume the USB port speed. That's my conundrum of which is best on the mib2 high updates SD or USB on the other thread when the high maps pop the 32gb limit. Going wait till that release. You don't really know the port speed of the USB or SD and indeed the bus speed of these units. On the high the maps gets copied over to a built in SSD whilst the standard unit run off the SD or in your case modded firmware the USB.

  6. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Pass on what happens if you have the software adjusted to work with normal SD card rather than VAG cards with the VAG CID. You'd normally get a complaint that it wasn't a map card in that case but if you are running modded software it wouldn't. May be that's the effect. Out of region maps loaded in, would show you the country boundaries but not the roads on a working VAG card. Why I said zoom back till you see the borders. Either way the card should be in Fat32 and 4096 cluster size. Mib2 standard which is what the unit is doesn't take to kindly to map cards reformatted in anything other than Fat32 and 4096. Seen issues where people format to NTFS and it doesnt work. QNX operating system so doesnt support all formats on all devices. Specifically mib2 standard maps have to be in Fat32, 4096 cluster size. Attached is the VW pdf on the preperation of the file for the card. You use 7zip if using a PC or the built in Windows 10 or 11 right click on the zip file. Placement of the folders has to be correct and a blank card to start off with. Avoid reformat on VAG cards since they can be damaged, just delete all and copy back on. Macs can / do dump garbage onto the copied folders so you use CleanMyDrive on the SD card (mentioned in the PDF) after unzipping. It's an issue with the mib2 high units which do a check before touching what is on the card. Mib2 standard less reported but could be that. Discover_Media_MIB_Gen.2_June_2020_EN.pdf

  7. Amundsen Mib2 Map Updates 2023/2024

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    That looks like an out of region map. They appear like that when the map geography doesn't tally with the gps signal. I know its marked up for Czech Republic, suggest you try out one of the other regions. The other way of checking what the map represents is to zoom back. That's the right hand knob on the infotainment unit if its got one. You turn and it will zoom in and out, other than that you pinch and squeeze the infotainment screen. Stroke left, right, up or down and you will eventually see some roads to the zone it represents. If it's a GPS issue of the units getting confused you can do a long hold on the on/off button till it resets. If for example you have the car in an underground car park not getting a signal would / could lead to that issue. More likely than not the country is missing from the file if the gps signal is good. You might want to upgrade to the Skoda 32gb card if you haven't got that and use the all Europe file. Martini Bs first one.

  8. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    If using SWDL if like the mib2 one is, you start a manual download on the SWDL (top button of the two) then you can force it but forcing it will show the new map then generate an error screen 30 seconds. Peak a boo and it's gone. Where you need the original release to match the FeC to revert back.

  9. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    The dash it's showing against navdb in the screen means nothing to update. It can't. Then the one below means it's on 30, offering 49 but can't do it since the FeC isn't allowable. You can force it but then will hang if it's like the mib2 high swdl. You play a game with the SWDL menu but then you are stuck if you haven't got the copy to put back in. Reckon it's at 30 so you need that as a fail safe.

  10. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Pretty sure it will since the matching access FeC is contained in the downloads for the maps. I did do a quick Google. Basically the FeCs were less common knowledge in the early days of mib than they are now. The menu key fumble should allow it to show enabled and available codes if you find the key combination. Mr Mi Bonk people... may be its Mibwiki goes under that name is administrator of the mibsolutions database. He'd know and Chillout who has been working with mib1 high then mib2 high units. It was Mibwiki that gave me the link to pass to the Australian guy who had issues with the addfec command in the mib2 toolbox. Was Chillouts code they used for that. Embodiment of the retrofitters work bench method. The other Ozzie for mib2 had used the package but that was setup for the the EU. Just need the FeC put in the control file and addfec button pressed in the tool. I'd hit a brick wall explaining. I suspect yours will need the work bench method. But as I said before I arrived into this with mib2. Zero mib1 hands on knowledge. Reckon the user updates came with mib2 but the mib1 ones were via the SWDL command as you are showing but need the correct FeC in the unit. Seems to be a suggestion online that these FeCs carried over from mib1 to mib2 on code as well ?. The Mr FixIt page gives an explainer but only really for mib2. http://wiki.mr-fix.info/index.php?title=MIB2#MIB1_High The toolbox substitutes MIB2_FEC_Generator.sh whilst the workbench method uses WhatTheFec.exe. You might want to chase down Chillouts web pages that covered his work on mib1. The mib enthusiasts have a Telegram group where you could try for help.

  11. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    This is another mib1 high question being Australia you would need a RoW FeC in that unit if its like mib2 high. Now whether its a DIY task not sure. For mib2 high it is now although you might need some help even if you got a mib2 high. The DIY experts hang out on this discussion thread. It's the one I was given to pass on to the Australian with the Mib2 high who had imported a Europe unit to Australia. https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._More-Incredible-Bash/discussions The "more incredible bash" people are the enthusiasts that have written the code for mib2. They were writing code before it got to mib2. So someone will be able to direct you if you speak to the right person on that software thread although that's the support thread for the mib2 high toolbox as it's called. Chillout / Jilleb who were the original authors and did most of the tinkering to package the tools up. Retrofitters take these tools and offer paid services although the tools are not for profit developed by hobbyists for hobbyists. You might find a retrofitter who is versed in this in Australia for a paid service or speak to one of those able guys. Traditionally the units were put on workbench, a usb-wifi dongle was plugged in then laptop tools were used, "whatthefec" being one. Mib2 high tool box of the "Mr-MIBonk" variety are loaded into the green menu and bypass putting the unit on a bench, the dongle and the program like "whatthefec". It could be that a tool box was never written for the mib1 high and it's a case of using the old retrofitter / hobbyist methods of the workbench. As I said to the other guy if you load maps into the unit where the navigation FeC is not of the life long one e.g.. Life long ones have a sufficiently high hex code that it allows the map to be imported. Wrong navigation FeC it won't work. You can only get back the maps if you have the map file for the unit that matches the FeC or any previous maps. So best not to toy with the unit if you haven't got the original year of release or any before.

  12. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Bit more reading on the problem above. It seems at the time they used the SWDL menu that I use now. For Audi the warning would be the navigation FeC. Thus if you forced the update that way you would delete the current maps but if it's anything like mib2 high without valid navigation FeCs it would time out and blank the screen. Been there done that. You would only experiment if you had a copy of the original map then you can revert back. That's what I had to do back in 2017 when I messed my unit up since Seat's unlike Skoda arent delivered with life long FeCs. It could be that the FeCs were not deployed like this in mib1 highs. Pass on that but that's how they did in on Skodas. I have seen something similar on VW Mib1 which is why back in 2017 I experimented with the SWDL menu. It forces an update but came stuck on the navigation FeCs. Had to educated myself on that after. The engineering menu is locked down on mib2 highs you enable the developers menu via coding. On mib1 it was never locked down. Hence that thread shows them doing it that way.

  13. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    This one has come up before. Mib1 is before my time. Only had mib2. One of your issues with Audi is they are like Seat they don't give you life long navigation FeCs unlike VW and Skoda so they wish to sell you the map update rather giving it you free. These updates. For Audi and Seat mib2 high units you can update the life long FeC yourself if technically skilled these days or take it to a retrofitter. That software is designed for mib2 highs. Your other problem is you have a mib1 whilst it's a shared download I believe to get it into the unit it goes in via DVD. I had thought it was SD. But past conversation here where we head scratch on history, concluded it's a two layer DVD which normal DVD writers don't do. The moderator of this thread is versed in the subject. So even if the files are common between mib1 and 2 you would have technical issues getting them in, let alone the Audi navigation FeC. So basically you are a bit stuffed. If it was a mib2 high Audi unit you can embark on using the mib2 high toolkit to write a life long navigation thread then you can do the map update (seems quite common now) but afraid you fall at two hurdles. For mib2 high on Audi people arrive on this thread looking at Mr Fixit video. One being this one: Mention that for completeness. In that instance they got the navigation FeC via the software but didn't get the paid traffic reports. That's outside of the navigation FeCs for Audi. Fixed the first issue thou.

  14. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    It is a bit technical true. Assumes you got GPS knowledge and technical skills. Not helped when VAG removed their web site for POI import. The next best thing is to just photograph the screens on your old car and use that as a record for your new car to manually reconstruct it. That way you ensure you don't leave anything out.

  15. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Just read your follow on question. Not to my knowledge it would be low level programming in the system. I used Co-pilot previously and extracted the coordinates and names out using a mapping program. I documented that on the SeatCupra site then used the Skoda trick, yes it's a Skoda trick I was told, you import them in as coordinates to a user POI. Tap the spot of the POI and saves as a destination. That works. The problem is now that VW / Skoda took down the import web based program that people were using. There is a solution, there are some macro excel sheet programs around or you use Poinspector. I use Poinspector and became the programmers unofficial technical author. https://poinspect0r.blogspot.com/?m=1 It does need some skills. It can be used to import speed cameras and your own POIs. I run with five categories. The four types of cameras off the paid speed camera database + my own favourites which is the destination file I talked about. Being a GPS enthusiast I don't trust mapping system POIs they are often out so "I walk the street" using Streetview and Google Maps to get the exact x,y decimal coordinates. That's inline with what came off the Co-pilot export. So I've added to that, some 200+ saved destinations, then keep two cars up-to-date with these. The car imports a type of dbase file with checksums for POIs. Poinspector and those excel macro sheets you come across import the x,y coordinates, generate the dbase type of file with the checksums in it. That's basically what the VW and Skoda webpages did when they were active. You can use SQL to open these files up. There was a preoccupation of doing this at one stage in the development of the RNS / Mib units over getting the beep for the speed camera at the right time. Mib2 it's computed automatically, so that history. If you got traffic sign recognition you get plenty of beeps if speeding and don't need a speed camera database.

  16. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Try to copy the unzipped all Europe file onto it. They are SanDsk Extreme Pro I've been using. Manufacturing differences do make a difference as the files get close to bridging the 32GB size. Possibly the next release won't due to how the cartography getting bigger. I'm expecting one will need 64gb next time round. I've identified that SD cards won't run above 100MB/s in the unit so you don't get any speed increase in the ones rated above 100MB/s it won't have the matching chip for that (I don't reckon). If you do use a USB that needs to be in NTFS. Above 32GB SD cards should be exFat. Suspect this time round you will be fine. Keep it in Fat32 but you should not need to reformat it. Don't touch the format.

  17. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Yes you need this thread. It runs on an internal SSD. To update you want to get a 64gb SD class 10 or higher in exFat, or USB formatted to NTFS. The current release is pushing the limits of 32gb SD cards so next time I'm sure it will pop all 32gb cards. Just pops some at the minute. Have been looking into it this time round for the next.

  18. Columbus Map Update 2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Well if like Seat the Mib2 High units which a Columbus is doesn't come with the map on an SD it's pre installed. It's the updates you you only download with a standard SD card of the correct size and format or USB. This isnt the latest Columbus map update thread, chump back the top link and look for the pinned. If it's the card based Amundsen (spelling) one you are getting which is called generically a mib2 standard that's if it's second hand the pinned thread for that. If it's a 2020 model on then it's a mib3 with no map card like the mib2 high but over the air updates if you are in paid contract connected service period. Unlike Seat you lucky owners of Skoda mib3s can do a similar map update of the mib3 unit for free like you could with mib2 highs (Skoda folk tell me here). Seat can't with mib3 they are running to the old procedure of not giving you free map updates. Getting those mib3 FeCs adjusted, not sure if the story early days so Seat people are stuffed on that one. So question is- Mib2 high or low ? (Second hand cars only / pre 2020 facelift) Mib3 in connect contract or out ? (think there are two contracts, here pass on whether you need both, free for the first year) If its a mib2 standard sold without the map card you can but them on eBay. Get a 32gb card if you plan to drive the breadth of Europe else a 16gb card is adequate. You just pop it in for Skodas.

  19. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    If you had it working and it went probably is that they left the FeC out for it. Like you have a cookie but not the FeC type of thing. Thinking about it during my shower they did leave some FeCs out of the Seat one they deemed nobody used. One was the Seat app service. They might have done something similar. The documentation shows available. That addfec file txt if you locate it on the SD / USB is what is presented to it. A cross check for any you might see what's missing. You can edit with notepad and rerun it. Ideally as said a photo of the FeC screen - not sure whether the one above shows all yours before then compare with what you got now. Put in any missing etc. Suspect it's that.

  20. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    The question is did you have it before ?. Those adjustments are the factory locked down ones which I wasn't aware Mib Tool unravelled. Depends whether the guy that gave you that answer is the inner core of those experts. The factory locked stuff over and above coding is coming to the fore on the MQB Evo platform now where things that you could enable before with VCDS type of coding ie. Lane Assist you can't now. I wouldn't have thought adjusting a FeC would alter that but changing the firmware could. There is the revert option in mib tool where the piece of code it changed can be reverted back. I've never tried that. It's the restore one. Probably loose the FeC you added but if it's in that code then you might get connected services back. Perhaps it plants a key in that code like a cookie and you have lost it. Perhaps that is what that screen was saying. Seats are not as advanced as Audi in this mib2 area not having the connected services in mib2. Skoda had connected services thou. There will be others on that Github board if you haven't rattled the cage enough. You could say you had them, but they have gone and see what they say. Perhaps they will say mib tool deleted it ?.

  21. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Within the Mib Tool documentation you have the FeC List and the Exception List for FeCs you can eyeball them for whether it's in there. Normally you photograph the FeCs before you start and after and study what it did. Additional FeCs can be added to the prepared FeC TXT file which you find which it downloaded. Stab add FeC command in Mib Tool, reboot and it reads the file in again. So question is, is Audi connect enabled by a FeC and did it get turned off. That Audi Sport website that Boo Boo posts on seem to know their stuff. ExceptionList FECs.pdf FEC List.pdf

  22. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    I suspect you are fine since Mib Tool adds additional FeCs with addFec doesn't take them away in standard use. They will be a FeC for sure I guess. So if you had it you still got it. The infotainment uses the FeCs that work. Looks at them all and says yes I can do that. It's like a parameter file in the old days of computing where you control the program by the parameters read in. No card reader is required 😉. I see BooBoo is on the Google on an Audi board that covers the subject: https://www.google.com/search?q=Audi connect and traffic fec&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m Interesting how the application has a home across brands. Since I used it I also get the performance screen which is novel for a 4drive diesel whilst the normal 2drive get the offroad screen which I always had. It unlocks all the hidden screens which are built into the system but are reserved to show only in a model spec. I can't say I look at the performance screen or the off road screen I always had. Let's us know what you finally get.

  23. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    How to get at the Audi green menu is here If mib tool went in correctly you should find mib tool installed as a program in there, see mib tool documention. It's run from there also mib tool enables the developers menu so you get SWDL etc on a long hold on menu in Seat and Skoda there will no doubt be a different combination of keys in an Audi. Might be helpful or not: https://www.car-auto-repair.com/audi-mmi-user-defined-update/ That shows elements of SWDL.... has it's uses to force updates or selective processes.

  24. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    You will get possible SVM errors (software version management) atleast when you run it since it's picked up you have tinkered with it. SVM errors don't have to be cleared but there is an option within the software to do that. Causes a reboot or two. I pass on whether Audi units screen what is being loaded into them and generate that screen. If successful you do the FeC adjustment. The reboot. Do that FeC screen to see whether it has taken it. If so you can then run the built in mib tool SVM clear option. That's what I did when I used it but I did have to have one of their enthusiasts to write me the module since they hadn't seen my firmware before. Not sure whether it's clever enough to do this bit itself now.

  25. Columbus Map Update 2022-2023 (MIB1/2 HIGH)

    Tell replied to MartiniB's topic in Audio, Electronics and Security
    Those are Audi key combinations that I pass on to get the green menu. After installation of mib tool the unit should just boot up as normal but then you have the SD card in it when you want to use it via the green menu. I'd post your question on that Github site for it. Normally it installs. Checks whether it can be used with your firmware at the time of running it in the green menu. You then do a backup. It saves an area of code it's going to change in that backup. Then you do the addfec command and reboot for the FeCs to take hold. If you want to restore the code changed you restore. That's how it us to work. I'd post that screen and questions on that Github board. It's Chillout and his mates that wrote that code.

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