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Yeah. Cross fertilisation of the Vag group forums. The Seat discovery of the standard files came from the German Skoda forum, passed it here, MartiniB found the others and I passed it to the UK Seat forum . We have our own unique issues with Seat still running with Mapcare.

I think MartiniB closed the mib2 standard 2021 thread down yesterday after I posted that up and reopened this one which had existed before but had vanished. Probably needs a stìcky as you said. Why I posted it up over there which is now closed.... (confused ears as they say on cat Twitter ;)) Anyhow the all Europe map seems to work fine, least in the UK.

I see you got the other Seat missing ones now. Was going to check. They have improved their game now.

The all European one 1520 has broken cover on Seat servers. A bit of a first given Seat always drag their heels. It was found by the German Skoda Community board. Not wrapped in a web page yet, direct link: https://seatmapdownloads.akamaized.net/EUAS/EU_AS_STD_1520.zip At the minute can't find the thread that MartiniB was posting the November 2020 standard mib2 releases on... sure there was one. Leave to add to that. Loads up fine on a Seat with normal Seat workaround for Mapcare. You won't get the 6P ID on Skoda, you will get your own when loaded. The manufacturer dates are in the sequence of the other releases so far for 1520 when you open it up. Not sure how long it had been hanging around for release but as long as the E directories we have seen so far. Give it a fuller test today on a run.

& FAT32 is what you should be using :). The VW documention says you should use NTFS but that's on the hard disk not on the SD card. Probably where they get it from. On the standard units equally disasterous since they don't read the SD card correctly. The units run QNX and expect nice FAT32 media put in them. Fluke otherwise.

They are just sitting on the respective servers without being wrapped in the web page to trigger the download off. All of them are incredibly difficult to manufacture. The high ones need the VW keys which I don't reckon anyone has. For non believers that they are all the same files from whatever source you do a hash check on them: https://www.raymond.cc/blog/7-tools-verify-file-integrity-using-md5-sha1-hashes/

Thanks for that and thanks MartiniB for the heads up.

I see another board (German Skoda community) is reporting they have found "Amundsen is leaving soon. Variants 1, 2 and 3 are already on the VW server". Using a Linux sniffing program when questioned how but didn't publish the link. Perhaps it won't be week 48 as some suggest. Have to check your drive2 page. No problems with 189.

Those are the retrofit instructions. Backend menu (SWDL) is locked down in Mib2, wasn't in Mib1. Once unlocked and the navigation FeCs can take the update then off you go (Skoda / VW mib2 you are fine, Seat not, have published a table on the Seatcupra forum which provides the boundaries, ready reckoned for mib2 high navigation FeCs). You can use this method even if it's not a retrofit if you unlock the backend menu via VCDS / Obdeleven but won't work if the navigation FeCs aren't up to it (Seat only). It locks the navigation up within 30 seconds after selecting a destination. You must reload the maps that tally with the navigation FeCs. But as said not an issue or shouldn't be for VW and Skoda mib2 high. I do the open and close the door trick every 15 minutes to keep the unit powered up using this method, so don't have the engine running during the the update, do it off the battery. After 20 minutes if you dont open the door the unit will power down and you loose the updates - have to start again unlike the front menu. 15 minutes gives you a 5 minute safety buffer. Cup of coffee, go to the loo, back out to the car to see how its going. Should be done in about 40 minutes via the back end menu.

& if a MAC OS you work in the VW PDF instruction which is imperative to remove the operating system hidden characters it enters into the download which will stop the upload to the car in it's tracks (CleanMydrive is run against the SD after copying the files over): If the map update is performed using the Apple® OS X operating system you may find that Discover Pro does not recognise the map material or displays it incorrectly. This is due to a lack of compatibility between the “7 zip” program and the OS-X operating system. In addition, the OS-X operating system has a tendency to create hidden additional files on external data media. We therefore recommend that OS X users use the “Keka” unzipping program. We also recommend using the “CleanMyDrive” program to remove any hidden files.

See what you mean, the best written one is the original VW PDF. Most issues are due to the use of MACs and not following the VW instructions on CleanMydrive or if a PC trying to be smart and not using 7zip. Going in and not presenting the full directory... need to present mib1 & mib2 as the mib2 high download (some people try to be clever and leave off the mib1 subdirectory - no). Others insist on formatting not in Fat32. Nope, the unit runs QNX so doesn't like anything other than Fat32. VW Mib2 high notes then you follow the Columbus update menu once you have the clean upload to the unit. https://webspecial.volkswagen.de/vwinfotainment/dam/jcr:c08aab64-ee73-4082-86a6-0fa82362282a/Discover Pro June_2019_EN.pdf

Google Maps isn't brilliant. The satellite images and aerial views can be old which means crowd sourcing of new roads doesn't happen / can't be validated by their team when told that their maps miss features out. A proper digital mapping company invests in uptodate aerial images which don't have cloud cover. Depends a lot of where we are talking about, as an experiment I didn't tell them about a large housing estate that had been there for ten years after two, I told them

Have a look at the top of the thread it's this on VW servers. Basically Skoda servers are rubbish. http://vw-maps-cdn.lighthouselabs.eu/vw-maps/P88_N60S5MIBH3_ROW_NT.7z

I'd read what the existing card says and Google the serial number if it's printed on the label. The hardware part number is another. Seats have 6P as the software part number for Mib2, Skodas will be... ?. But you will find it on a Google from the code on the card or the info screen. Also if you down load it will be instantly recognisable by file structure. Three tests :). Reckon from year mib2.

I didn't open the PM file since it came from that questionable filestore rather than an Exe from Skoda :). Still waiting for the great and the good of the Skoda board to confirm what's happened to that process. The process works but not for the most recent files I.e. this release so must be toggled off by Skoda or doesn't sit in the server area supported. Don't touch modded Exe files, sorry. Sorted out your mib1 high yet ?. You are back to the dealer on that. Looks like it should have been updated years ago and slipped threw the net and still had Mapcare active on them although it was a paid job based on the thread I gave you. Similar situation in the UK where people try to update maps and it's not possible via DIY methods. Common on Seat mib1s. Ditto all high units.

I think it just sets up a protocol between you and the servers. An analysis of the program that was published by people looking for viruses said it has a stay alive function which obviously means if your internet has a wobble it picks up from where it left off. Very handy with slow Skoda servers and on problematic rural internet. It was developed for Skoda, it's their version of the VW Discover care tool which handles downloading and unzipping. That tool was always last to be populated in the release of maps. Good for Mac users since they didn't need to follow VW Mac instructions, many dont then it doesnt work. I think the VW tool may be discontinued now. Waiting for the good people here to confirm that the Skoda Downloader program has been discontinued or has a new syntax since it doesn't work for me on the latest high release. Historic releases are fine. Not sure anybody actually knew what the numbers were after ver=... you did a cut and paste and it always worked... now with this release it doesn't. May be Skoda can enable it to work with specific downloads and the 2020-2021 high release isn't one of them. A flag has not been set ?. Think I'll withdraw my previous statement on the zip files.

@csdex it would appear that this might be an old chestnut looking at this http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/archive/index.php/t-113410.html Post 21 on. Reckon it's Mapcare was current on some of those units when it shouldn't have been so they were taken in to be adjusted. Your unit is in that time domain. I've @bigade1 for ideas on why my syntax for the downloader isn't working on this http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/maps/HIGH12_P187_EU_202022.zip after I transcribed it to the downloader form. Where Skoda files are in the lead it's useful to have :).

Think this is one for bigade1 where I might have picked up the original syntax from.

Need a tutorial it was fine when the files were 7 zip but haven't got it to work since they moved to "zip". My crib sheet: Skoda Download Manager - Commands to set it up Just wrap the file name in the section XXXXXXXXXX where XXXXXXXX is the file name from the direct download http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/XXXXXXXXXX/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe e.g. http://infotainment-cdn.skoda-auto.com/base/downloaders/STD2_915_EU1_2018/Downloader.exe?ver=636797902467464786&extension=.exe ---- what's yours :). Probably missed something. It was very good with the ropey Skoda servers in keeping the link going. Obviously my eg works which predates when they changed things.

Probably not the update portal not being up to date or as hypothesized you get effected by Mapcare on that unit. Depends when Skoda withdrew / threw it in for free Mapcare to ROW. What's this download infotainment manager you are editing ?. Edited the download.exe Skoda command you got something else there.

Had a feeling that the full developers menu can be accessed on mib1 highs it was only on mib2 high where you had to turn it on. Once turned on, a very long press to get it thru. But it won't help I reckon if it's Mapcare you have run into. That's hello to a retrofitter unless you get skilled up, something I haven't done myself. Really need two units and a computer degree... mine is a minor in the subject ;).

Navigation Plus = Skoda Columbus = VW Discover Pro = Mib2 high

If it has Mapcare on it then you will have a Skoda version of this https://www.seatcupra.net/forums/threads/ready-reckoner-on-the-limits-of-mib2-high-plus-updates-can-be-made.457561/ I found a Russian post on Audi and worked out the Seat ones by what worked and what didn't from experience of two units where we had the original and a retrofitters adjusted one (had photos of before and after) when it all went wrong since a retrofitter claimed they had added unlimited but only another year. Went back and got that adjusted up. The retrofitter gave the game away when they tapped the screen and said this is your problem a year latter. I then researched it and got how to interpret them, not how to write them thou. Mapcare is history to modern Skodas but not to Seat where they won't desist from selling units with Mapcare. The quarter marker of the map file must be in the sla1 signed released map file whilst the navigation FeC is signed in the FeC update. It's those that retrofitters fiddle with where Mapcare is still active rather than the firmware. Could still be failing the signature validation thou. If valid and it's not that. On a mib2 high though the Swap menu you will see Y / N / Err before you do it. If you see Y against the navigation that's good. N or Err and you force and update, then that's when you enter lock out mode from navigation 30 seconds latter after starting navigation to a destination. Hence you need a copy of the old maps else you are stuck with a unit that doesn't work. That Y / N / Err screen might be different on a mib1 high to a mib2 high, so as you say the file might be fine just that it's not allowing you to do it. Mib2 high does but doesn't work presenting you with a screen 40 minutes later that your navigation map is not valid after it's checked it with the navigation FeC.

Does Mapcare have a bearing on this ?. At some point Skoda abandoned Mapcare making updates free perhaps this was different by country. Did catch one post on a Google saying 2013 for an Octavia, see 2015 signature above. Maybe it wasn't rolled out at the same time across ROW?. I thought a design feature of the high unit was that the update was good for both, mib1 high and mib2 high where the unit grabs files from either of the directories, least the mib2 high does that. Hence why I think it's got something to do with Mapcare still being active on that unit. With Mapcare on a high the unit is controlled by a navigation FeC setting. Last two characters of that identify the quarter limit of when your time is up on updates. It's that code retrofitters update if you have Mapcare on the unit. Also that code that gets updated with the official paid update where Mapcare is still supported. Not sure what Skoda did when they abandoned Mapcare, left a tranche of units that couldn't be update I guess. Might be barking up the wrong tree but feels like Mapcare is the limiting factor. An sla1 signature check is run on the unit before the update proceeds any fiddling by accident or not with the unpacked zipped files will also slam the brakes on. That is another possibility (on a mib2 high atleast). The back end menu of the high will tell you that, the front end menu may not. Incidentally loading a map that isn't allowed subject to Mapcare rules via the backend suspends navigation within 30 seconds so you need to have a copy of the original files or releases before if you go down that route. Suppose to use 7zip, fat 32 a 32gb card on a PC. Stay away from a Mac but if not use CleanMydrive, see VW instructions on that, there is a Mac recommended unzip program as well as CleanMydrive. Not doing that can lead to garbage getting into the files. QNX which the unit runs on is not forgiving to those people that like not to follow instructions on the SD card format of Fat32. Non use of 7zip on a PC can also introduce garbage as well. Few pointers.

Yep all of them on the SD card. There is a lot of incorrect chatter on the net you need that meta file plus the two directories. It dives into both since it's a common update for mib1 & mib2 high so what it uses are in both. Some net posts say only copy blah blah... wrong.