Everything posted by Carlston
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Monte carlo suspension
Monte Carlo is just a trim specification, so it will have standard ride height. Even if you had an Octavia VRS, it's possible to select standard ride height when you do a new factory order. Hence, it's best to check the car's build codes to be sure. Knowing the car's build codes is also the best way to find closely matching aftermarket springs and shock absorbers, etc.
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Yeti tyre sidewall damage
What tyre size is it? It looks like it's the wrong tyre size for the Yeti, as it's showing a load index of only 91. Tyre sizes on the Yeti, normally have a load index higher than 91.
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Rim recommendations for MKII VRS 2012
The 16", 17", and 18" rims listed in the Skoda parts catalogue for the Octavia MK2 have the following specifications 6.5Jx16 ET50 5/112 57.1 7Jx17 ET54 5/112 57.1 7Jx17 ET50 5/112 57.1 (Scout only) 7.5Jx18 ET51 5/112 57.1 https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/OCT/663/6
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Superb Sportline shock replacement.
See Gabrielem's posts on page 9 of the below thread.
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rear discs
Jurid and Ferodo on autodoc list the Superb MK2 2.0TDI 140HP as having 282x12mm rear disc brakes with build code 1KJ. However, to be absolutely sure you need to check that your car has build code 1KJ.
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Front Suspension
Andy hasn't been seen since 2015, so you might not get a reply from him.
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Wheel bolts mk3 vs mk2
All Skodas that use five wheel bolts per wheel, use the same M14x1.5x27 wheel bolts, with OEM part number WHT001812.
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Rough Road package
The specification you've given for the 2Q0511121CD is probably for the slightly stiffer 2Q0511121CE. This is because both the 2Q0511121CD and 2Q0511121CE OEM part numbers are listed against the Spidan 88088. Therefore it probably matches the stiffer of the two, ie. 2Q0511121CE. 2Q0511121CC is likely to be about 5% softer than 2Q0511121CD. The ride height will be similar, unless you add a lot weight in the back of the car. In which case, the 5% softer spring will compress a little more, but only about 5% more. The gknautomotive.com spring catalogue lists the 2Q0511121CC for the Kamiq 1.0TSI 95HP and the 2Q0511121CD for the Kamiq 1.0TSI 115HP. Kilen 63546 and Lesjofors 4282946 are the same spring, because they are both made in the same factory is Sweden. Just marketed under two different brand names. 2Q0511121CC Kilen 63546 Lesjofors 4282946 Kilen spring catalogue https://www.kilensprings.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp Lesjofors spring catalogue https://www.lesjofors-automotive.com/springs-catalouges/onlinecatalogue.asp
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Rough Road package
You've got standard Kamiq suspension, and that's the highest it goes. Skodas such as the Octavia Scout, Kamiq, Karoq, and Kodiaq don't have higher suspension than standard because the standard suspension on these types of cars is already jacked up, ie. the standard suspension on the Kamiq is equivalent to the increased ride height suspension on the Scala. Kamiq on standard suspension (this is as high as it goes) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Škoda_Kamiq#/media/File:Skoda_Kamiq_(2019)_Monte_Carlo_1X7A6166.jpg
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Rough Road package
(1) 2Q0411105AD Front coil spring L23 (3) 1K0412303G Buffer for front shock absorber 90mm G08 (8) 2Q0413031DS Front shock absorber G08 https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/KAM/584/4/411/411002 (1) 2Q0511121CD Rear coil spring 0YN (7) 2Q0513049CK Rear shock absorber UA5 (9) 2Q0511351B Buffer for rear shock absorber 132mm https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/KAM/584/5/511/511006
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Superb Sportline shock replacement.
So it looks like there's no need to change the springs to remove the wallowy feeling and pogo style bounce on the Superb MK3...just fit B6s. Do your B6s have DCC (electronic suspension control)? The reason I ask, is because according to the information on autodoc, the B6s with DCC are a different type to the B6s without DCC. Surprisingly given the much higher price, the B6s with DCC appear to be of an inferior design, ie. the inferior twin-tube design versus the superior single-tube/mono-tube design. Bilstein B6 shock absorbers (for Superb MK3) https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/shock-absorber-10221/skoda/superb/superb-3v3/112394-2-0-tdi?supplier[0]=16 https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/shock-absorber-10221/skoda/superb/superb-3v3/112394-2-0-tdi?supplier[0]=16
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Alloy wheel identification
It looks like the diamond silver alloy rim listed below with colour code 8Z8. 6 5E0601025T Aluminium rim 7Jx17 ET45 4 PR-CD2 SCOUT 5E0601025T HA7 Anthracite metallic (grey) Finely turned aluminium 5E0601025AR Aluminium rim 7Jx17 ET45 4 PR-CN0 NIVALIS 5E0601025AR 8Z8 Diamond silver https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/OCT/753/6/601/601070
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Which brake pads
As you can see below, both the 300x12mm and 310x22mm rear brake discs on the Superb MK3 and Kodiaq use the same rear brake pads. The rear brake pads on Skodas don't use wear indications. The 300x12mm are solid rear brake discs. The 310x22mm are ventilated rear brake discs. Superb MK3 and Kodiaq 300x12mm rear brake discs 1KU 2EM (ATE brake system) 310x22mm rear brake disc 1KJ 1KZ 2ER (ATE brake system) TRW GDB1957 rear brake pads (without wear indicator) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334867475896
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Which brake pads
As you can see below, both the 300x12mm and 310x22mm rear brake discs on the Superb MK3 use the same brake pads. The rear brake pads on Skodas don't use wear indications. The 300x12mm are solid rear brake discs. The 310x22mm are ventilated rear brake discs. Superb MK3 300x12mm rear brake discs 1KU 2EM (ATE brake system) 310x22mm rear brake disc 1KZ 2ER (ATE brake system) TRW GDB1957 rear brake pads (without wear indicator) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/334867475896
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Spring seat mounts?
5Q0412545D https://www.autodoc.co.uk/borsehung/14513094 Skoda parts catalogue https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/SUP/851/4/411/411000
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Replacement Front Shock Absorbers
Yes, it is described on trodo as heavy duty if you search by entering the vehicle details. On autodoc, one particular Bilstein shock absorber was described as standard and heavy duty if you searched for it by entering Octavia MK2, but if you searched for the very same Bilstein shock absorber by entering Yeti it was described as heavy duty only and not standard. Like J.R. pointed out, the description often appears to be for marketing purposes. The Monroe front shock absorbers might improve over 500 miles or so as they loosen up, the same as a new engine can be tight.
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Replacement Front Shock Absorbers
There's no mention of "heavy duty" for the Monroe 401147RM front shock absorbers on trodo, as shown below, and I'm accessing their website using a chromebook not a mobile, so it should be showing all the details. autodoc don't mention "heavy duty" either. Shock Absorber MONROE 401147RM ID : 1421774 Fitting Position:Front Axle Brand class:Premium Manufacturer:MONROE EAN:5412096764943 Manufacturer Part Number:401147RM Shock Absorber Type:Gas Pressure Shock Absorber Design:Suspension Strut Shock Absorber System:Twin-Tube Shock Absorber Mounting Type:Top pin, Bottom Clamp Weight [kg]:4,000 Bore Ø [mm]:32 Length 1 [mm]:391 Length 2 [mm]:553 Piston Rod Diameter [mm]:22 Article number of recommended accessories:MK194, PK163 Packaging length [cm]:51,5 Packaging width [cm]:16,2 Packaging height [cm]:16,2 Housing Diameter in Clamping Area [mm]:50 https://www.trodo.com/shock-absorber-monroe-401147rm
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Replacement Front Shock Absorbers
Where have you seen Monroe 401147RM described as heavy duty?
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Replacement Front Shock Absorbers
The Monroe G16495 front shock absorbers are marked, "for vehicles with heavy duty suspension". The Monroe 401147RM aren't marked "for vehicles with heavy duty suspension". Therefore, maybe the Monroe G16495 front shock absorbers have stiffer damping than the Monroe 401147RM, even though they are both sold to replace the same 37 OEM part numbers, as shown below. 1K0413031AC 1K0413031AD 1K0413031AE 1K0413031AF 1K0413031AH 1K0413031AJ 1K0413031AR 1K0413031AS 1K0413031AT 1K0413031BA 1K0413031BB 1K0413031BE 1K0413031BF 1K0413031BG 1K0413031BH 1K0413031BJ 1K0413031BK 1K0413031BL 1K0413031BS 1K0413031CH 1K0413031CJ 1K0413031CK 1K0413031CM 1K0413031CN 1K0413031CP 1K0413031CQ 1K0413031CR 1K0413031CS 1K0413031DE 1K0413031DF 1K0413031DG 1K0413031DJ 5C0413031AH 5C0413031AM 5C0413031AQ 5C0413031BR 5C0413031S
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Replacement Front Shock Absorbers
On autodoc, the same two Monroe front shock absorbers are listed against OEM part numbers 1K0413031BG, 1K0413031BK, and 1K0413031BL. These are Monroe 401147RM and Monroe G16495. The Monroe G16495 front shock absorbers are marked, "for vehicles with heavy duty suspension". The Yeti does have heavy duty suspension as springs and shock absorbers are often shared between the Yeti and heavy duty suspension versions of the Octavia MK2. As far as Monroe is concerned, these two front shock absorbers fit your car, although that doesn't mean they are a close match to the original factory supplied front shock absorbers.
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Space saver size
There is an 18" space saver rim listed in the Skoda parts catalogue for the Octavia MK3. There's usually a large number being sold on ebay with this OEM part number, ie. 1K0601027AP, usually with a 125/70R18 space saver tyre. Always check the tyre size with any seller, because there's other 18" space saver tyres such as 125/60R18 and 135/80R18 that won't be correct for the Octavia MK3. 3.5Jx18 ET25.5 5/112 57.1 space saver steel rim 1K0601027AP (from Octavia MK3) 1 1K0601027AP Steel rim for space-saving emergency wheel 3.5Jx18 ET25.5 1 PR-1G9 1K0601027AP 03C rally black https://www.lllparts.co.uk/catalogs/skoda/CZ/OCT/805/6/601/601012
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Space saver size
On the Octavia MK3, a 205/55R16 fitted to a 6.5Jx16 ET46 5/112 57.1 steel rim could be used as a spare. If it's a VRS with 340x30mm front brake discs, the 16" spare wheel could only be fitted to the rear. Another option is 125/70R18 fitted to a 3.5Jx18 ET25.5 5/112 57.1 steel space saver rim. However, as there is enough room in the space wheel well for at least a fully inflated 205/55R16 it seems a bit pointless using a 125/70R18 space saver. The space saver may be thin, but it's very heavy. Being able to inflate the space saver up to 4.2 Bar (60psi) requires a heavy duty construction of the tyre and rim...hence you are unlikely to save much weight by going down the space saver route. As you can see in the chart below, the outside diameter of all these tyre sizes are very close. There's less than 1.3% difference between any of them. Outside diameter of tyres 125/70R18 632.2mm 195/65R15 634.5mm 205/55R16 631.9mm 205/50R17 636.8mm 225/45R17 634.3mm 225/40R18 637.2mm 225/35R19 640.1mm If you want a cheap 17" steel rim to use as a spare, you could use a 6.5Jx17 ET38 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Kodiaq) fitted with a 205/50R17 tyre. Alcar 8247 6Jx16 ET48 5/112 57.1 steel rim (Octavia MK3 winter tyre size) https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-8247#22880278 Alcar 8667 6.5Jx16 ET46 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Octavia MK3) https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-8667/23124463 Alcar 9021 6.5Jx17 ET38 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Kodiaq) https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-9021#22767779 Octavia MK3 VRS foam and jack kit 5E0093860C (you should be able to order this from a Skoda parts department using the OEM part number 5E0093860C for about £50, so you just need to add the spare wheel) https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/sada-pro-vymenu-rezervniho-kola/p/5E0093860C Octavia MK3 non-VRS foam and jack kit 5E0093860E (you should be able to order this from a Skoda parts department using the OEM part number 5E0093860E for about £50, so you just need to add the spare wheel) https://eshop.skoda-auto.cz/cs_CZ/sada-pro-rezervni-kolo/p/5E0093860E
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Hard ride - possible shock absorber issue
Many Superb MK2 owners have changed their hard riding, low profile, 225/40R18 tyres to 205/55R16. The ride is transformed. Much softer riding and far more comfortable. 205/55R16 are also far less likely to be damaged by potholes than 225/40R18. You could use the standard Superb MK2 7Jx16 ET45 rims or the 6Jx16 ET50 Superb MK2 winter rims. The narrower 6Jx16 ET50 winter rims are approved by Skoda for use with snow chains. Another option to 205/55R16 is slightly oversize 215/55R16 fitted to the standard 7Jx16 ET45 rims. As you are used to the wider 225 tyres, 205 might look a little small on the big Superb MK2. Vredestein Quatrac 215/55R16 93H https://www.camskill.co.uk/m139b0s8006p201739/Vredestein_Tyres_All_Season_Car_Vredestein_Quatrac_6_215_55_R16_93H_TL_Fuel_Eff_%3A_C_Wet_Grip%3A_B_NoiseClass%3A_B_Noise%3A_71dB
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Space saver size
The Octavia MK3 VRS uses either 312x25mm or 340x30mm front brake discs. 15" rims will clear the front brake calipers on cars fitted with 288x25mm front brake discs. 16" rims will clear the front brake calipers on cars fitted with 312x25mm front brake discs. 17" rims will clear the front brake calipers on cars fitted with 340x30mm front brake discs.
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Space saver size
All Superb MK3 cars can use 16" wheels, except the 272HP/280HP 4x4 models which need 17" wheels to clear the front brake calipers on the 340x30mm front brakes discs. So if you don't need 17" wheels, you can use a 215/60R16 tyre fitted to a 6Jx16 ET43 rim (from the Karoq). This will fit flush in the spare wheel well. Surprisingly, a 215/60R16 tyre fitted to a 6.5Jx16 ET41 rim (from the Superb MK3) won't fit flush in the spare wheel well. Hence, the benefit of using a narrower 6J rim from the Karoq. As you can see in the chart below, 215/60R16 fitted to a 6J rim has an actual inflated width of 215mm. On the Superb MK3, that's the limit for the spare wheel fitting flush in the spare wheel well. Actual width of inflated tyres 215/60R16 fitted to 6J rim = 215mm 215/60R16 fitted to 6.5J rim = 221mm The 16" spare wheel would also work on the Superb MK3 272HP/280HP 4x4 models, but you could only use it as a rear wheel. However, many people who use a space saver prefer to use it only on the rear. Alcar 6665 6Jx16 ET43 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Karoq) https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-6665/23323157 Alcar 8426 6.5Jx16 ET41 5/112 57.1 steel rim (from Superb MK3) https://www.oponeo.pl/felga-stalowa/alcar-kfz-8426#22943187