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Wow, that's much more like it; these look like the real deal but at £180 without p&p to the UK, a little too expensive for me. No matter which bulbs/LEDs are placed in the Citigo DRLs they will never be a match for a dedicated bank of LED DRLs. The good thing about the standard Citigo DRLs is that they are in a good position but the ones kindly posted by 'ajprice' might just be a little too low down to be truly effective as DRLs on the Citigo? Maybe I should treat myself on 10th October, when they will be available again and I'll be the brightest spark in town?

It may be a VW up! featuring in the AE article but Skoda/Seat/VW are all VAG and the Mii/up!/Citogo are all assembled in the same Bratislava factory in Slovakia on the same production line. More power to your bow!

Very interesting article in today's Auto Express. I hope there's not a problem with posting this scan of the particular page in question, on here? Thank you to Auto Express for this article and than you to them for helping this lady VW up! owner too via their Watchdog section. The "Owner waits a year" is clearly show but "for steering fix" was on the next page!

When I asked the head salesman if the 2 year extended warranty I bought, came with RAC breakdown/recovery and he said no. However if he was wrong, then I'm very glad to hear that it does come with this additional safety net.

I assumed that she was a girl when she said something about the salesman being unable to take his eyes off her breasts. I didn't realise that they were man boobs.

Did CitigoAli have an overnight sex change to become CitigoAllen or did I miss something? :wonder:

Yes, the Citigo sunroofs do have blinds.

I had to rush along to the garage, pull the spare wheel out and check to see if I did have a 50mph spare wheel or not. You're absolutely correct Huskoda (as you can see in the pic below) and I'd never have known until I had to change the spare wheel after having a puncture. Thank you for alerting us all to this. :love: Just to make it clear again, I have the optional Style 2 Pack, 5.5" wide Auriga alloy wheels fitted with 185/55 x 15" 82T Bridgestone Ecopia tyres but the 5" wide steel spare wheel is fitted with a 165/70 x 14" 81T Falken Sincera SN83a EcoRun tyre.

Thank you Owens - this is the definitive answer about cambelt life and is great news.

As can be seen in post #5 above, there are no warning stickers on my spare wheel. However, I have never removed the spare wheel so I cannot guarantee that there's not a sticker on the other side. However, I would have thought that they'd have also placed the warning where it would be fully visible on the wheel/tyre as it sits in the spare wheel well too?

This is exactly what I found when I tried the MTECs and the Polarg M13s so I reverted to the brilliantly white LEDs. This isn't saying that the LEDs are brighter than the other bulbs or more noticeable from a distance but they are definitely much whiter. Even when the sidelights are on, they are still very white, just less powerful, obviously. However, they do make the Osram Nightbreaker 'Limited Edition Plus' bulbs look less than white than they might be with MTECs or Polarg M-13s.

I'm sure she will too!

Oooooh! I'm eagerly awaiting CitigoAli's response to that!!

There doesn't seem to be much difference between the 2013 Citigo and the 2014 Citigo? I ordered my 5-door Elegance 75PS GreenTech on February 16th and took delivery on May 3rd this year. The only difference that I can see on the Skoda UK vehicle configurator is shown below i.e. the £60 factory fitted Variable Cargo Area Concept and the Backrest Release for Left Front Seat. I think the price for the latter is a mistake because I'm sure it won't be free. Volkswagen charge £85 for the same thing on the VW up! but hopefully Skoda UK might not be so expensive. The Skoda UK (Elegance Greentech 75PS) car configurator is always a source of amazement and amusement to me because it never quite makes sense. Many items are down as £0, like the £499 service plan for one example and Control of Logistics 3(??) as another or the Multi-Function Display/On-Board Computer which my car seems to have anyway, I think, along with the PID that comes as standard.

The folding front passenger seat is available on a 5-door Volkswagen up! as an £85 option.

I wonder if they'll have changed the wheel nut covers on the 2014 model Sport to the more plain looking ones, even with the 16" Serpens wheels? Perhaps they might do something a little more pleasing with these more special wheels because the 2014 ones fitted to the standard 14" alloy wheels shown below look more than a tad plain, dull, grey and boring? BTW, I'm green with envy because I could only specify 15" Auriga alloy wheels as a Style 2 pack when ordering my Elgance in February.

Yes, of course you're absolutely bang on damo. Apologies! As usual, I'm easily confused and was going even futher back when things were much simpler in 1963 (A), 1964 (Bee), 1965 © and 1966 (D) when what you saw was what you got i.e. (apart from A perhaps which was a transition year, a B registered 1964 car was first available on January 1st 1964, a C registered car was first available on January 1st 1965 and a D registered car was available on January 1st 1966. They then spoilt it all by having 1967 cars registered as E and F etc so that you couldn't tell at a glance exactly which year they were just like the present registrations. Funnily enough, I was out and about today and saw a B registered Rover and a C registered Triumph. It was quite pleasing to be able to say without hesitation that the Rover was 1964 and the Triumph was 1965. Live was much simpler back in those days .................. or so they say!! Sorry about the 1964 (Bee) but if I try to put it as it should be it turns out like this - 1964 ( !!

Many years ago, it used to be that a vast majority of buyers would wait till the new year so they would have a 2013 car instead of a 2012 car (for example) because it would be much more valuable when traded in. Basically 'they' moved it to twice a year to stop it all happening on January 1st. We have three spikes now instead of one. What a great idea the Danish database is especially if anyone can look at anyone else's details.

Thank you to 'the-toothfairy' and 'pixel_viking' for the explanations. I don't know if you Scandinavians know (or are interested?) how our registrations work or not but here's a brief explanation of what's been in place since 2001, anyway. Example plate: AT62 TDR 1. The first two letters represent the ‘local memory tag’ – where the vehicle was registered. For example LA to LY for London. 2. The third and fourth digits are numbers known as the ‘age identifier’. These are changed every six months in March and September. The easiest way to remember this is to think of March as the year and September as the year plus 50. For example: • ’12? in March 2012 and ‘62? in September 2012 • ’13? in March 2013 and ‘63? in September 2013 • ‘14 in March 2014 and ‘64? in September 2014 3. The last three letters are randomly chosen and allocated to a dealership when the car is registered.

What do the 2x letters, 2x numbers and 3x numbers mean on Danish registration plates, pixel_viking?

Thank you for this great advice oxonboxn. I did contact my dealer (via their website email system) asking about this and had no apparent response from them at all. However, they must have acted on my contact because only yesterday I received a letter of confirmation from Skoda UK. This was over 3 months since I actually took delivery of my new Citigo.

I'll now have to try some of the other DRL bulbs I have just to compare. I don't want to be driving around and being known as Dim Jim!! I can only say that I bought mine from HIDS Direct (they also sell on eBay) and I fitted them in minutes. They've been prefect since May 3rd this year and I've never blown a fuse either. "Brand New GEN.2 CANBUS High Power R580 27* SMD 5050 LED EXTREMELY BRIGHT! These are the Brightest 5050 SMD LED's *WHITE* Innovative Design - Prevents Bulb Warning Errors Easy Intallation - Simple Plug in & Play! Ingeniously developed, these LATEST 2nd Generation 7443 LEDs are designed in order to prevent bulb errors when fitting LED to modern cars. These new LED's have a built-in warning controller that stops any errors that you would normally experience with standard LED, improving on the older generation these new LEDS have better heat sink, resistance and longevity."

I fitted the LED's just after I took delivery my new Citigo at the beginning of May but I also bought the MTECs and a pair of (hopefully) genuine Polarg M-13s (from the USA) at the same time. Once I'd fitted the LEDs I was too lazy to try the other two types. The only thing with the LEDs is that they make the Limited Edition Gold Plus Osram Nightbreaker Plus H4 look slightly yellow (or maybe gold?) in comparison because they are so white themselves. I'm also a little disappointed with the special HB4 bulbs that I bought for the foglamps. It seems to be a bit of an art to have ALL the lights matching perfectly, looking lovely and white. There's plenty of light on the road but it's not the dazzling white that I might have hoped for. However, as you can see from the photos above, the LEDs are very white compared to the standard bulbs. I can see where pixel_viking is coming from but as I have only tried the LEDs and compared them with the standard DRL bulbs (as in pics above) I haven't tried the alternatives yet. However, I don't think dim is the correct word to describe them. All the non LED 'bulbs' have a single filament which the eye can see in its entireity even if there is no reflector whereas the LED 'bulbs' have 27 separate LEDs pointing in many different directions. I'm not letting anyone drive my car so will never see what 'my' LED DRLs look like. I'll leave it to the young whizz kids on here to takes some photos of their Citigos (or even pixel_viking himself) so that we can see exactly what's what and what's best.

Many Citigos (my one for example) do have LED DRLs.

Here's what the AA has to say about DRLs Daytime Running Lights (DRL) Low energy front lights that switch on automatically Daytime running lights are designed to come on automatically when the engine is started You've probably noticed those bright LED 'eyebrows' on newer cars, but why are so many cars being fitted with them, and what are they for? As a result of European legislation adopted in 2008 dedicated daytime running lights (DRL) have been required on all new types of passenger cars and small delivery vans since February 2011. Trucks and buses followed from August 2012. There is no requirement to retro-fit DRLs to existing cars and no Europe-wide requirement for drivers of cars without daytime running lights to drive with headlights on during the day. If you're driving abroad, check our touring tips for local rules. Daytime running lights are designed to come on automatically when the engine is started - all other lights should remain off. Daytime running lights must be bright enough that they can be seen clearly in daylight and as a result are too bright to be used at night time when they would cause dazzle. Daytime running lights should therefore go off automatically when headlights or sidelights are switched on. Daytime running lights don't have to be separate lights - some car manufacturers combine them with the front position lamps (side lights) in which case the daytime running lights will dim when the headlights are turned on. If daytime running lights are located close to indicator lights then the DRL may automatically dim to avoid masking the signal from the indicator when it is operating. RetrofittingThe requirement to fit daytime running lights applies to new cars only. There is no requirement to retrofit daytime running lights but kits are available if you wish to do so. Lights approved to the appropriate EU legislation will have an approval mark on the lamp which includes the letters 'RL'. Retrofitted daytime running lights should be installed so that they come on with the engine and go off when other lights are turned on. Manually operated daytime running lights must be turned off at night to avoid dazzling other road users. BackgroundThe Volvo 240 was the first car in Britain that ran with lights on all the time the engine was running. Although they looked like sidelights they were in-fact separate 21 watt bulbs located alongside the standard 5 watt sidelight bulbs. The brighter bulbs were lit all the time unless the driver turned on the sidelights. In the mid-1980s the UK planned to introduce 'dim-dip' lighting for use in urban areas at night, rather than for daytime use but plans were scuppered when common European standards couldn't be agreed. Dim-dip switched on headlights at reduced brightness when the ignition and side lights were on. Volvo and others adopted dim-dip in place of 21 watt side lights for daytime running at this time. Daytime use of headlightsA lot of discussion followed about whether cars across Europe should have their headlights on all the time – many countries introduced local rules while the European commission considered legislation and possible technical standards. By 2006 drivers in 12 countries had to drive with their headlights on all year round including Sweden since 1977, Iceland, Latvia, Macedonia and Norway since around 1980, Denmark since 1990 and Romania, Slovenia and parts of Portugal since 1998. Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia and the Czech Republic required daytime use of headlights in the winter only while Hungary and Italy required daytime running lights outside built up areas. The UK never introduced a rule requiring daytime use of headlights. BenefitsThose in favour of daytime running lights claimed they significantly reduce road deaths and serious injuries, while those against objected to the constant glare of headlights and voiced concern that motorcycle riders may become less conspicuous. There was some concern about increased fuel costs too. In 2006 the European Commission published the results of research into the effectiveness, costs and benefits of introducing Daytime Running Lights (DRL). A European Commission study in 2006 suggested that a substantial number of casualties could be prevented across the EU with a positive benefit-to-cost ratio when the costs of fitting lamps and the environmental cost of running them was taken into account. A later UK Department for Transport (DfT) study confirmed the Commission's findings that there would be a net reduction in accidents, but cast doubts about whether the benefit would outweigh the costs. The UK study also concluded that dedicated Daytime Running Lights could improve the visibility of cars in dim light without reducing the conspicuity of motorcyclists. Fuel consumptionLight Emitting Diodes (LED) only consume a fraction of the electricity taken by a normal headlight - they're being used increasingly for other lights on vehicles for the same reason. Use of dedicated daytime running lights instead of driving with headlights or sidelights also means that tail lights and instrument lights are not illuminated during the day. The alternator is driven by the engine and spins all the time but it doesn't always consume the same amount of power from the engine. When the electrical load on the alternator increases more power is required to turn it and so fuel consumption is increased. While headlamps consume 110 watts of power, dedicated daytime running lights using LEDs might consume only 5-10 watts so putting negligible load on the alternator. (22 October 2012)