i will be ordering mine very soon if vrsi dont sell me his before hand :thumbup:

revival again,

how are these fairing up? ar ehtey still on the car? or was the car done after the small mishap at the ring?

billy

yep would also like to know going to be buying some next month but cant decide between these in the 350mm or the k sport 8 pots at 356

ksports are cheaper by a couple of hundred pounds aswell

p.s what happend to him at the ring???

Youre a bit stuck as he hasnt been onljne for over a year!

oh about the time he bumped at the ring then,

oh well, I must of misread the date he was last on as it must be pritty much bang on a year.

ne mind

i recon they are too big those 6 pots, recon you will see lots more peal travel with them.

... you will see lots more peal travel with them.

No you phurkin won't get more pedal travel - you and pedal travel fetish.

Just won't get the full 'bite' that these brakes are capable of.

I know folks who've fitted these to other platforms, and they have been disappointed at the lack of bite on my car.

The basic problem with the Compbrake 6pots is the overall piston surface area being too large for the tiny little hydrolic pumped fitted to the mk.4 Golf platform.

I've had Compbrakes fitted for a while now, replacing a set of Bremob 4 pots (from a DB7 GT4, a very heavy caliper).

They do work well at speed (above uk limit type speeds), and are very very hard to overheat. They are also very light compared to the other options.

I now have a set of Brembo GT calipers waiting to go on.

My plan is to compare the performance, and then decide whether to go down the route of a set of Badger5 bells and rotars for the Brembo GT, or a RS6 master cyclinder upgrade for the compbrakes (I suspect a more expensive option)

Another 'little' issue with the CompBrakes's is the limited choice of brake pads you have.

They use a AP specific pad size, and come with Hawk StreetPro pads (which are only OK).

From what what I managed to find out, you cann't get DS2500 pads for this caliper :(

The Compbrake is also not directly compatible with the TT cast wishbone mod either, due to the size of the rotars and the offset.

I now have 'custom' TT wishbones fitted, which I'm still considering 'experrimental' ...

This pic shows the pistons. The pistons in the Bremob GT 4-pot calipers (designed specifically for the mk.4 platform) are the same as the two smaller pistons in the CompBrake.

Hence the in-ability to get full-bite out of the CompBrake with standard brake cyclinder.

I believe AP Racing do a 6pot caliper, which has 6 small pistons to keep the overall piston surface area within tolerances, but cost somewhere in the region of £2K

This pic shows how close the TT adjustable ball joints sits the rotor. In order to get the TT cast wishbone to fit, the bolts have to be romoved from the ball joint, the wishbone fitted above the ball-joint (not below), and bolted 'up' from underneath.

This changes the angle of the wishbones, and may affect the functioning of the understeer removing qualities of the setup (which is why the cast wishbones where fitted in the first place).

Testing is not completed ....

Edited 31 December, 201015 yr by snow_muncher

No you phurkin won't get more pedal travel - you and pedal travel fetish.

Just won't get the full 'bite' that these brakes are capable of.

I know folks who've fitted these to other platforms, and they have been disappointed at the lack of bite on my car.

The basic problem with the Compbrake 6pots is the overall piston surface area being too large for the tiny little hydrolic pumped fitted to the mk.4 Golf platform.

I've had Compbrakes fitted for a while now, replacing a set of Bremob 4 pots (from a DB7 GT4, a very heavy caliper).

They do work well at speed (above uk limit type speeds), and are very very hard to overheat. They are also very light compared to the other options.

I now have a set of Brembo GT calipers waiting to go on.

My plan is to compare the performance, and then decide whether to go down the route of a set of Badger5 bells and rotars for the Brembo GT, or a RS6 master cyclinder upgrade for the compbrakes (I suspect a more expensive option)

Another 'little' issue with the CompBrakes's is the limited choice of brake pads you have.

They use a AP specific pad size, and come with Hawk StreetPro pads (which are only OK).

From what what I managed to find out, you cann't get DS2500 pads for this caliper :(

The Compbrake is also not directly compatible with the TT cast wishbone mod either, due to the size of the rotars and the offset.

I now have 'custom' TT wishbones fitted, which I'm still considering 'experrimental' ...

This pic shows the pistons. The pistons in the Bremob GT 4-pot calipers (designed specifically for the mk.4 platform) are the same as the two smaller pistons in the CompBrake.

Hence the in-ability to get full-bite out of the CompBrake with standard brake cyclinder.

I believe AP Racing do a 6pot caliper, which has 6 small pistons to keep the overall piston surface area within tolerances, but cost somewhere in the region of £2K

This pic shows how close the TT adjustable ball joints sits the rotor. In order to get the TT cast wishbone to fit, the bolts have to be romoved from the ball joint, the wishbone fitted above the ball-joint (not below), and bolted 'up' from underneath.

This changes the angle of the wishbones, and may affect the functioning of the understeer removing qualities of the setup (which is why the cast wishbones where fitted in the first place).

Testing is not completed ....

What a load of waffle....

someone must be bored!!!!

Joking aside,yes you phurkin will.......get extra pedal travel.......i know, i have driven your car, and compared it to my car.....the pedal travel is further in your car. Any caliper that has extra/bigger pistons generally requires more force from the MC hence needing more push in the pedal. The lack of bite you mention, is down to the MC not having enough power to cope with your calipers.

Extra pedal travel and lack of any proper brake feel is the main problem with your brake setup, 6 pot compbrake setup = imo

Good luck fitting an Rs6 MC in an octavia, have you seen the space...or lack of in the octavia engine bay, rather than looking to change everything....a matched caliper (like you now have with the brembo gts) is a far better way of dealing with the problem and getting the brake feel/response that you are after!

Edited 31 December, 201015 yr by Oet

guys what calipers do you think suit the vrs best then?????

k sport have small pistons ??

anything small piston, brembo gt, gets my vote, its what des has fitted to his red devil too iirc

anything small piston, brembo gt, gets my vote, its what des has fitted to his red devil too iirc

....with DS2500 pads.

....with DS2500 pads.

Second that

are they the same as fitted to the seatcupra???

also do they clear and have no issues with these cast lower arms snow was talking about????

want to have a look at them k sport as they look like they have small pistons, do you know the size of the pistons on the gt kit???

Edited 31 December, 201015 yr by westallc

......get extra pedal travel.......i know, i have driven your car, and compared it to my car....

Dude, the pedal travel in my car is the same as with the orignal OEM setup (288mm disc & same caliper as vRS).

- I still haven't checked ETKA to see if there is a difference in MC part numbers ...

As you know, my theory is my MC is either weaker, or partly-phooked.

Fitting the Brembo GT calipers will answer that question.

If, as I suspect, the MC needs replacing, I will try the CompBrakes again (once new MC fitted) to see what happens.

As for space for the MC, there is plenty of space for a better MC, the RS6 in not much bigger anywayz.

are they the same as fitted to the seatcupra???

also do they clear and have no issues with these cast lower arms snow was talking about????

want to have a look at them k sport as they look like they have small pistons, do you know the size of the pistons on the gt kit???

The Brembo GT caliper is not exactly the same as the LCR, but its piston size is more or less the same.

My Brembo GT's are sitting in Oet's garage at the moment, so you'll have to persuade him to measure them

I believe Badge5's rotar and bell setup fits both the LCR and Brembo GT calipers

The Brembo GT caliper is much smaller than the CompBrake caliper (although heavier :wonder: (CompBrakes are milled from Alu, Brembo's are cast) ), and I believe nearly all the disc and rotar/bell setups are much narrower than the CompBrake rotar/bell setup.

As a result there shouldn't be an issue with the TT cast arms.

The LCR has cast TT arms fitted as standard, and can accept the Badge5 rotar/bell setup, so I assume there's no issue.

okay have emailed k-sport to see what they say.

is there a bolt on upgrade for our master cylinders?? i.e is the curpa one better ???

The gt caliper clive is very similar to the lcr caliper, the lcr caliper has an external fluid channel iirc but in terms of fit and piston size they are very similar, i will measure the piston size later.

There is more pedal travel, its been ages since your car had the 288s on, so its not like you can directly compare the 6 pots to the original brakes, especially as the four pots you had on before suffered the same issue.

Longer pedal travel is a classic symptom of increasing piston size coupled with more fluid channels inside the brakes to fill, your car had this when i drove it recently, its not just lack of bite that it suffers from.

Either way changing ther brakes to a gt kit, should tell us if the brakes are the issue or if the MC is the issue.

As far as i know there is no direct bolt on upgrade (nor should it be needed with the right brakes), The LCR has the same size MC iirc, looking at where and how the MC sits, it would be a pain to fit anything else, plus of course too big an MC would perhaps cause too much brake pressure and a system that constantly locks up......one too consider!!!!

Lcr wishbones fit with the gts no probs, i run them, not so sure with other 6 pot kits how they fit, i dont like they way they fit with the comp brakes, its not right, the offset of the brake on the hub is too much to allow the cast wishbone to sit properly.

Hispec and D2 also do 6 pot kits that might be worth looking at as an alternative.