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Fab VRS: Possible to disable ASR without the light on the dashboard illuminating?

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As title, really :)

Nope, why would one want to? Its a safety thing!

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I find that it cuts in too soon and prefer driving without it. I'm perfectly capable of preventing my wheels from constantly spinning with my foot :)

If it was ESP or a more advanced system then I'm sure I'd be more than happy to leave it as-is :) I just don't particularly like the way it suddenly cuts power to the wheels. Never used to bother me but since it's been colder and icier I've noticed it a lot more.

Having driven with ASR manually disabled and not having had any problems with wheel spin etc, I've concluded that it would not be a compromise on safety were I to totally disable it :)

Yes it is possible to disable it but i think the light will stay on.

Let me find the guide.

Will have to look tonight...i know it's something like fitting a resistor so that it's turned off all the time unless it's turned on.

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I did some testing - there are some posts I did on Brisk - there is a resistor mod that works with older VAG cars but nogo on my 2005 vRS. An electronics expert could probably devise something more complex to trigger a relay momentarily timed a few seconds after you start up - but this would leave the light on.

Pulling the ABS fuse disables it totally, as it does the ABS system = not good.

The only practical way is to get it turned down/off by a tuner who knows what he is doing. I'd suggest approaching Richard Washbrook (oscarli.com) for advice.

"Safety device" in theory but it probably causes more accidents by suddenly cutting almost all power after a half second of wheelspin, leaving you halfway out entering a busy roundabout or intersection.

Easiest = just turn it off after you reach operating temps.....

HTH

Bas

...there is a resistor mod...

Which would still keep the warning light active and therefor does not really answer the original question.

The only practical way is to get it turned down/off by a tuner who knows what he is doing. I'd suggest approaching Richard Washbrook (oscarli.com) for advice.

Tuners do not mess with ABS systems as far as I am aware and disabling the engine control module functionality would be very questionable in my eyes.

"Safety device" in theory but it probably causes more accidents by suddenly cutting almost all power after a half second of wheelspin, leaving you halfway out entering a busy roundabout or intersection.

Never heard of an accident which happent because of that, technically if this happens to you then you simply misjudged the weather/road conditions as well as the "gap" in traffic where you wanted to "slip" in. At the end its not the system which is faulty, its simply the driver who isn't able to control his gas foot... :P

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At the end its not the system which is faulty, its simply the driver who isn't able to control his gas foot... :P

Erm...

Having driven with ASR manually disabled and not having had any problems with wheel spin etc, I've concluded that it would not be a compromise on safety were I to totally disable it :)

Obviously for the ASR to kick in the wheels must have spun a little, but not very much. I find controlling a bit of wheelspin using throttle control much easier than dealing with the unexpected behaviour of the ASR system :)

as above, i find it a bit of a pain, cuts power far to much. It has its uses, if you cant use your clutch verywell i guess.

Never heard of an accident which happent because of that, technically if this happens to you then you simply misjudged the weather/road conditions as well as the "gap" in traffic where you wanted to "slip" in. At the end its not the system which is faulty, its simply the driver who isn't able to control his gas foot... :P

I disagree with that analysis. A problem can stem from the system cutting in too early, before it's strictly necessary. So where a slight amount of slip would have been fine and the driven wheels would have found traction again, the system cuts in, reduces power and can potentially put the driver in a situation where they wouldn't have been, had the ASR system not cut in.

Steve

Whilst I quite agree Steve, the majority are fools .......

No doubt Len. Would still be nice to have the option though eh :)

I'm not too fussed about it these days anyway, as the EGR bypass has cut its presence back to an acceptable level.

Steve

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Thanks people. I'll have a look in to the other benefits of an EGR bypass. For the moment I feel it would be a bit over the top as I'm not running a remap and am not using the new BLT engine which suffers from the stutter :)

As per the Bas mod I guess :)

ASR is rubbish!

The system on my 07 Fabia was better than my 54 Octavia though, the Fabia just lowered the power, but the Octy's left me sat on a roundabout before :(

You can get it re-mapped in theory. Not sure about the flabia but the mk1 octy vrs can be told it's an S3.

I doubt you could tell the Fabia it was an S3 :P

I did think the ASR was very much useless after having driven a demo car with ASR, and opted for the ESP option instead.

A Quaife or something would also sort it, but that's big money..

the esp/tc/diff on my car is very good.... not that it helps anything :D

You got the diff, which helps the TC/ESP with 'not' kicking in anyway ;)

To simulate ASR in a non-ASR equipped car, try turning off the ignition when getting onto a roundabout. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

BTW did have a chat with my tuner, be of interest to see what he turns up...

Bas

I doubt you could tell the Fabia it was an S3 :P

I did think the ASR was very much useless after having driven a demo car with ASR, and opted for the ESP option instead.

A Quaife or something would also sort it, but that's big money..

Audi did an A3 diesel quatto ;)

Like hen's teeth though; I considered one before I got this Fabia. Especially in the previous 8L shape and sellers usually ask unreasonable amounts too!

Steve

I was refering to using an Audi A3 Quattro 1.9 file in the fabia to give it a bit more of a forgiving ASR.

However, with the EGR delete pipe on i find the traction control is a lot less obtrusive, in fact, i left it on this morning whilst driving through icy back roads on the way to work..

So icy the ABS kicked in when you whispered on the brake and was still trying to spin the wheels at 1500rpm in 4th & 5th.

To simulate ASR in a non-ASR equipped car, try turning off the ignition when getting onto a roundabout. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Bas

:rofl: Haha perfect description Bas :thumbup:

I was refering to using an Audi A3 Quattro 1.9 file in the fabia to give it a bit more of a forgiving ASR.

nice one :thumbup: Good to know this tweak can be done...

better let the Ross Tech chappie know about it :D

Always turn mine off before driving

And i confirm what basil says when pulling from a junction and it cuts all power - not good

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