i was just going to fit some Eibachs to my vRS but im seeing a lot mentioned online about these AP coilovers

how comfortable is the ride on the AP's is my main worry

that and the quality of them, i once put some GAZ coilovers on my Clio and christ it was firm !......the rear shock bushes failed after a year and the adjuster ring siezed onto them too, never again

i was just going to fit some Eibachs to my vRS but im seeing a lot mentioned online about these AP coilovers

how comfortable is the ride on the AP's is my main worry

that and the quality of them, i once put some GAZ coilovers on my Clio and christ it was firm !......the rear shock bushes failed after a year and the adjuster ring siezed onto them too, never again

I cant tell you what the ride is like because there not on yet, but they are very good quality, they are german after all, good stuff.

There's a review on them, on an Octy, in the 'Maintenance & Performance' section.

My ride is pretty rough already, but I'm desperately to improve my Fabia's handling. Does it make a significant improvement if coupled with a strut brace??

Surely this depends on your budget too?

Alex

the ap coilovers on weibo's are firm, but not overly so - you're not going to lose a filling or anything

Any coilovers are going to seize if you dont look after them.

If you cant be arsed to do maintaince just wack a spring/shock kit on.

With coilovers you need to remove the wheels and give them a good clean and greasing up every few months.

There's a review on them, on an Octy, in the 'Maintenance & Performance' section.

thanks for that, its made my mind up, my last car was pretty firm and although it could out handle nearly anythin, the firmness gets to you after a while and when i first drove my fabia it was ssooooo comfortable, although i want it lower and im willing to sacrifice a little of the comfort, i dont really want to be shaken about over our poor roads

Any coilovers are going to seize if you dont look after them.

If you cant be arsed to do maintaince just wack a spring/shock kit on.

With coilovers you need to remove the wheels and give them a good clean and greasing up every few months.

if im honest with myself, i know i wouldnt do that every few months, although the ones i had on my Clio, they were cleaned and greased at least twice within the 12 months that they went faulty

Any coilovers are going to seize if you dont look after them.

If you cant be arsed to do maintaince just wack a spring/shock kit on.

With coilovers you need to remove the wheels and give them a good clean and greasing up every few months.

Double edged sword really. Is greasing any good for them? It tnds to attract more gdirt as it gets stuck in the grease, best thing I find to use is a graphite based spray, just coat them every couple of months. Even my TA Technix coil overs (cheappy cheap cheap) didnt seize up doing that.

Also depends on how the coil overs are treated with regards to materials, ie stainless, galvanised, etc etc. My mate works for Nitron suspension, never see one of their coil overs seize, but to be fair they are about £1k per corner.

I'm interested in these coilovers too. I don't mind firm, but I don't want it to be as firm as my Polo... at the moment if I go over the yellow markings you get on the approaches to roundabouts the dash blurs! I can handle firm as long as it's not too crashy. So if someone has fitted some of these or is in the process of getting them sorted then a review would be greatly appreciated!

well i've had them on my fabia for just over a month now and i think there pretty good!

Ap's work really well for me as i have a lot of back roads round my way and combined with the jabba anti roll bar i can chuck the car into the corners and everything is flat and smooth without that much body roll at all! "feels like a proper go cart"

Only problem with them is that when giving it beans there perfect but on an everyday motorway they are quite bouncy! so a seemingly flat A1 stretch turns into land of the speed bumps! with the car rocking about!

im very happy with them considering the price! "£320ish from Awesome" as you get what you pay for!

they make my car sit right to the floor! and im more about stance than function tbh

but if your expecting something amazing for that price then your very much mistaken!

my rating for these is that they do the job and quite well when your having a brisk run down the back roads but for everyday use there not crashy but not as firm as i'd like! so 3/5

like i said im happy with them but will defo be looking at upgrading to some K1s or K2s for the adjustable stiffness!

Double edged sword really. Is greasing any good for them? It tnds to attract more gdirt as it gets stuck in the grease, best thing I find to use is a graphite based spray, just coat them every couple of months. Even my TA Technix coil overs (cheappy cheap cheap) didnt seize up doing that.

Also depends on how the coil overs are treated with regards to materials, ie stainless, galvanised, etc etc. My mate works for Nitron suspension, never see one of their coil overs seize, but to be fair they are about £1k per corner.

Gets stuck in the grease, but then you can just wash the grease off gently with a sponge, soft toothbrush and some alkali based spray

Got any pics of the drop your running? Or should I check ECC?

I'll get some pics of mine on the weekend possibly.

Black, standard wheels, ap suspension.

A question I've been meaning to ask. When people slam them and then mention that it can be a bit bouncy is this not the fact the cars riding on the bumpstops as it runs out of suspension travel? If thats right then why dont people raise the suspension to avoid this and probably have better ride/handling?

Just something thats been on my mind as I'm looking at coilovers in the future.

Got any pics of the drop your running? Or should I check ECC?

i'll post them up here chap!!

but if you wanna post on ECC by all means go for it

thanks for that, its made my mind up

So I take it you're just going for the eibachs then?

I must admit I'm sooooo tempted to get some myself but I don't know anywhere in the north east that would fit them and do the geo set-up, etc

You'll have to let us know what you think of them when they're fitted, pics too!

yup, im growin up a bit now lol, i like a comfortable ride but it just sits too high for my liking, looks like a 4x4 and handles like one too hehe

So if someone has fitted some of these or is in the process of getting them sorted then a review would be greatly appreciated!

But your only getting someone elses point of view, the only way you will ever know is to drive one or be in one yourself.

I had Eibach springs/dampers on the vRS, later replaced by Koni FSDs when the dampers were on their way out (probably had a fair bit left but the GB was on )

The Eibachs were firm, the shockers were not all that great at holding the road when hitting a bump (read: M4 speedbumps near Reading...) at speed.

The FSDs made it possible to comfortably go over the exact same road. Road handling was excellent.

On the estate, I had the stock springs/dampers on, not sure how old the dampers were etc but the car had done 250ish k (bit below) so I'd imagine some dampers might have been fitted (not checked papers). I fitted the Eibach springs & Koni FSDs on the front, it made it handle a bit better, but of course it was *not* for that car so it was a gamble.

Ross fitted the Eibachs & Koni FSDs to the back of the estate but took them off again as the weight distribution just was not right.

As mentioned above, the AP Coilovers are on the estate now. They are not excessively firm, but they are firm, less compliant than FSDs in particular at lower speeds, but not like it is 'trashing'.

On the vRS the Eibachs/Koni FSD combo is imho a great compromise in handling and it is lowered a bit, still safe.

The coilovers made it possible on the estate to lower it significantly further than on the Eibachs - some pics in the thread - and it just looks 'right'. I could have spent a fortune on Koni FSDs + Eibachs for the estate, but it would have been vastly more than the coilovers, probably around 700 quid mark, and although it may be a little more comfortable, the car would have been higher off the ground.

For the money spent on these coilovers, I am very impressed. They are great value for money, and the quality appears good where it matters. The handling seems solid, although I am keeping reservation on this until the 4WA is sorted. If the car handling is going to end up as per expectations after that, it is definitely a great way of getting much improved handling, adjustable height, and relative ease of fitting

I couldn't agree more with Ross though, you've got to try it for yourself. What for someone is 'firm', someone else might find fine. I've been in cars where it feels like there is no suspension as the dampers were that hard, and in American cars of old - boat anyone - so it just depends

Worth a test drive for sure, ideally in a car like yours as things vary between models

if you were going for comfort and to only lower by a small amount, would you go for Eibachs again

Brun,

Get the Eibachs and FSDs

You arent worried about it being much lower than standard so the coil overs arent really required.

Put it this way, if I had to replace the dampers on a 'normal' car in the future, I would pay the premium to get Koni FSDs fitted.

The Eibachs are progressively wound springs and they do work nicely too, and as their price is not too bad they're a decent option.

Totally agreeing with Ross, if you're not worried too much about lowering, I'd go for the Eibach/FSD combo any day

The Eibachs are progressively

My germans not upto much but I think you'll find their linear same with the likes of KW springs (not coilovers)

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