I am sure that when i used to press the button next to the gear lever for the parking sensors it turns only the front ones on, but now it turns the rear on as well. Also when i put it in reverse and both front and rear sensors come on then a press of the button would de-activate the front only. At the moment it deactivates the rear as well. this cant be right ? i am sure this has changed since it last went to the dealers. can anyone confirm ?thanks

In my case,when I press the button both will go on or off.I never saw only front or only the back ones working.Either they are both on or they are both off.

I thought the button lit automatically only in reverse. I turn it on manually for forward manoevures where reverse hasn't already activated the sensors. I'd always assumed, when lit, both ends are active.

If I stop the car and put it in neutral or with the clutch engaged and I push the button,both front and back sensors are active.If I push again the button,both go off.Now,if I stop the car and engage reverse,again,both will turn on,and will stay like that until I push again the button(both stop) or I'll start driving again and reach 15mph when they disengage(I think it's 15,I'm not sure).If I stop the engine and start it again later,both will be on again.I hope you understand what I wrote

what does the manual say? It sounds, and understandably if I may say so, that your confidence in the car is at rock bottom and anything funny is causing you to doubt yourself and the car.

i am finding the manual is not worth the paper it is written on as there are so many anomolies. I asked my wife, who drives the car regularly, and she says I am right. pressing the button after engaging reverse should only turn off the front sensors. it has always dont this until now. The octavia behaves in this way according to the tech at my dealer so its logical to assume the superb should as well.

I have used the sensors in traffic by pressing the button to bring on the front sensors and the rears were not active as there was a car behind me that it didnt pick up. the point ofthe button should be to activate the fronts only so you can park up to a wall.

On our new Elegance the switch has always behaved as per the manual - where the switch disables or enables both sets of sensors at the same time.

A.

My Elegance behaves exactly the same as AJB1's.

Front and rear sensors come on when engaging reverse gear. Front and rear sensors come on when pressing button, and go off on another press.

It still sounds to me like there is something seriously screwy about the coding on your car, Jonathan.

You've have a number of weird anomalies in this respect, and it does make me wonder if one of the control modules could be a bit flaky.

Bagpuss.

The demo car i had the switch only operated the front sensors it had no effect on the rears they were always on , i suspect this is another item that needs to be selected off the menu or perhaps VAG-com

Tbh,I can't see a good reason why the rear sensors would be on all the time.On my Octavia which had only rear sensors was it was simple,reverse engaged->sensors activated,reverse disengaged->sensors off.The same on my friends Audi,which has both front and back sensors,if he pushes the button both go off or on.

I didnt mean they were on all the time but just that the driver cant switch them off they come on when reverse is selected there is no seperate switch for them , 99% of cars with just reversing sensors dont have a means to select them they are always on everytime you reverse

Logically you do need control over the front sensors for driving in traffic etc but i see no point that if you switch off the front sensors you also lose the rear ones , that makes no sense to me , if you want the option there should be a switch that ONLY operates the front (which i how i understand the Superb should be set up) and a seperate switch to operate the rear

Not having my car yet its hard to be sure but looking at the brochure the switch next to the gearlever has a P with a triangle facing forward this indicates to me that the switch is indeed for the front sensors only

Then give me some answers for the following questions:

1)If you turn off only the front sensors using the button,that means you don't have any means to turn off the back ones!?What about traffic?You stop at the traffic lights,and someone is near you in the back.You can't turn them off and you must hear that bip-bip-bip all the time?

2)You will answer to this question and say that the back ones will come on only if you engage reverse.But then tell me what you do if you are driving on some narrow streets and you want to take a left or right turn and there are some parked cars.You activate the front sensors,but what about the back of the car?You don't care about it?Or you stop in the middle of the road,engage reverse to turn them on,engage the first gear again and continue?

3)Or you will answer to the first question and say that if you push the button you turn both on,but then if you push it again you turn the front ones off,but the back ones remain on.Again,how will you turn them off?

4)If we think more,you activate the sensors when you are getting close to something.What is the problem in being more secure and having both of them on?Then,if you turn the front ones off,it is clear that now you have a clear road.Why would you still need the back ones?

Then give me some answers for the following questions:

1)If you turn off only the front sensors using the button,that means you don't have any means to turn off the back ones!?What about traffic?You stop at the traffic lights,and someone is near you in the back.You can't turn them off and you must hear that bip-bip-bip all the time?

2)You will answer to this question and say that the back ones will come on only if you engage reverse.But then tell me what you do if you are driving on some narrow streets and you want to take a left or right turn and there are some parked cars.You activate the front sensors,but what about the back of the car?You don't care about it?Or you stop in the middle of the road,engage reverse to turn them on,engage the first gear again and continue?

3)Or you will answer to the first question and say that if you push the button you turn both on,but then if you push it again you turn the front ones off,but the back ones remain on.Again,how will you turn them off?

4)If we think more,you activate the sensors when you are getting close to something.What is the problem in being more secure and having both of them on?Then,if you turn the front ones off,it is clear that now you have a clear road.Why would you still need the back ones?

You've answered most of these yourself :)

Q1 You've already answered that one

Q2 If the back of the car is moving towards something then the car should be in reverse and therefore sensors on , if the car isnt moving towards an object i see no reason to be told that its there

Q3 You only need the front sensors on if you are parking to warn you of unseen objects imo we should always be driving with our eyes open, the sensors are there to assist NOT replace common sense and basic manoeuvring skills

Q4 If you have a clear road in front of you the back sensors WONT be on , they are only on if you are travelling backwards in reverse gear

You should NEVER rely on these sensors imo a MK1 eyeball is your best tool when driving and having a little colour display on the dash showing you the sensors signal is counter productive imo , people shouldnt but they will end up looking at this display rather than out of the windows or mirrors and at where they are actually going

Now I could continue to "argue" with you about these sensors but I'll stop here.For me it's easier and it makes me feel safer.I need the sensors,I push the button,I don't need them anymore,I push it again.Just as easy as this.

You said it was easy on your Octavia have a conventional system i cant see why it would be "easier " to switch them off

If the rears also go off when the front button is pressed i would venture an opinion as that is NOT how Skoda designed them to function and that either the system or the coding is faulty

You said it was easy on your Octavia have a conventional system i cant see why it would be "easier " to switch them off

If the rears also go off when the front button is pressed i would venture an opinion as that is NOT how Skoda designed them to function and that either the system or the coding is faulty

richf - thanks for imparting some common sense to this thread.

having the independent control over the front sensors is essential. take my situation. everytime i go to reverse off my drive the front sensors come on as soon as i put it in reverse (why ?? i am going backwards not forwards). anyhow - a press of the "P" switch turns them off but leaves the rear ones on. this is how it should be. the front sensors are distracting when reversing. I know the sound comes form a different location in the car and is a different pitch but they are still confusing. I also agree the screen is bad. beeps woudl be fine the screen just adds more distraction. by pressing said "P" switch the screen acually turns off but leaves the audio on for the rears (or at least it did before the latest skoda coding c*ck up / gremlin)

I shall be pushing for the dealer to re-code my car to how it was for the last two months and how it left the factory. Even the tech agreed with what i said saying on the octavia it behaves as I had described so he would expect the same on my car

Your situation doesn't make sense.You go backwards,but remember that the front axle is the steering axle.Maybe you live in a small town,but where I live,parking is driving you crazy.

Let me give you another situation.Narrow street,and cars are parked on both left and right side of the road.You find a small place on the left side,and you want to do a reverse parking.You steer to the left and engage reverse,but the front part of the car will go to the right and get close to the cars parked on the right?What am I supposed to do?I stop the car,I engage reverse,I go backwards,but soon I realize that I am getting to close to the cars on the right side.I remember there was an option on my car about some front sensors...hmmm...let me search the button.I find it,then I go forward again and do the parking again??This will take ages.

Another question.Why does the park assist use the front sensors when parking?After your reply,I should understand that Park Assist is a stupid extra!?Why would park assist use the front sensors if the car goes backwards??

The sensors are confusing even if the sound comes from different parts?Then use the screen,on the screen you can even see which part of the car is closer to an object,why would it be bad?Don't tell me you can see better using the mirrors or the windows.You don't want a screen,and you don't want the front sensors when you are going backwards,you only want the back sensors.Then,from what I understand,you only need the front sensors for easy things,like frontal parking to get very close to an object in front.In this case,if I were you,I wouldn't have paid 200 pounds for this option.I got this extra to help me pass trough narrow spaces and for lateral parking.

richf - thanks for imparting some common sense to this thread.

having the independent control over the front sensors is essential. take my situation. everytime i go to reverse off my drive the front sensors come on as soon as i put it in reverse (why ?? i am going backwards not forwards). anyhow - a press of the "P" switch turns them off but leaves the rear ones on. this is how it should be. the front sensors are distracting when reversing. I know the sound comes form a different location in the car and is a different pitch but they are still confusing. I also agree the screen is bad. beeps woudl be fine the screen just adds more distraction. by pressing said "P" switch the screen acually turns off but leaves the audio on for the rears (or at least it did before the latest skoda coding c*ck up / gremlin)

I shall be pushing for the dealer to re-code my car to how it was for the last two months and how it left the factory. Even the tech agreed with what i said saying on the octavia it behaves as I had described so he would expect the same on my car

That sounds pretty much like the demo i had , i think the front system defaults to ON everytime you start the car but will stay off once you press the button until the next time the car is started (be nice if it remembered really) , the rears cannot be turned off and come on everytime reverse is selected

I didnt notice the difference with the screen though to be honest but then i always use my mirrors when reversing anyhow

I will add all the cars i've driven with front sensors have operated the same way as well , I have not driven a car where you could turn the rear sensors on and off

Your situation doesn't make sense.You go backwards,but remember that the front axle is the steering axle.Maybe you live in a small town,but where I live,parking is driving you crazy.

Let me give you another situation.Narrow street,and cars are parked on both left and right side of the road.You find a small place on the left side,and you want to do a reverse parking.You steer to the left and engage reverse,but the front part of the car will go to the right and get close to the cars parked on the right?What am I supposed to do?I stop the car,I engage reverse,I go backwards,but soon I realize that I am getting to close to the cars on the right side.I remember there was an option on my car about some front sensors...hmmm...let me search the button.I find it,then I go forward again and do the parking again??This will take ages.

Another question.Why does the park assist use the front sensors when parking?After your reply,I should understand that Park Assist is a stupid extra!?Why would park assist use the front sensors if the car goes backwards??

The sensors are confusing even if the sound comes from different parts?Then use the screen,on the screen you can even see which part of the car is closer to an object,why would it be bad?Don't tell me you can see better using the mirrors or the windows.You don't want a screen,and you don't want the front sensors when you are going backwards,you only want the back sensors.Then,from what I understand,you only need the front sensors for easy things,like frontal parking to get very close to an object in front.In this case,if I were you,I wouldn't have paid 200 pounds for this option.I got this extra to help me pass trough narrow spaces and for lateral parking.

Its your car and feel free to use the screen and rely fully on the sensors to help you park but i think you are putting far too much faith in the system to prevent you from damaging another car or worse a person.

No-one said that.We were talking about sensors,not about how much faith I put in the parking system.I'm always using the mirrors and windows before steering,accelerating etc. I consider that I wrote enough reasons to sustain my opinion,and beside that,I consider that Skoda/Audi and all other producers did this extra with their brains(I have a few friends,and their parking system works the same way).I won't continue anymore this discussion.

Cheers

I've got to agree with infoschumi on this one.

Where we live, parking is difficult at best, and pretty much any manoeuvre involves all the sensors. So, for me, having all the sensors come on is fine.

Personally, I'd like to see:

1) Putting car into reverse turns all sensors on.

2) Whilst in reverse (with all sensors on), pushing button once turns fronts off, pushing it again, turns rears off and fronts on, and a third press turns them all off.

When in a forward gear, I'd like the same behaviour as 2), but you'd need a single press to turn them all on first.

It wouldn't be hard to make this configurable through the maxidot, and I don't really understand why they haven't done it.

Bagpuss.

I've got to agree with infoschumi on this one.

Where we live, parking is difficult at best, and pretty much any manoeuvre involves all the sensors. So, for me, having all the sensors come on is fine.

Personally, I'd like to see:

1) Putting car into reverse turns all sensors on.

2) Whilst in reverse (with all sensors on), pushing button once turns fronts off, pushing it again, turns rears off and fronts on, and a third press turns them all off.

When in a forward gear, I'd like the same behaviour as 2), but you'd need a single press to turn them all on first.

It wouldn't be hard to make this configurable through the maxidot, and I don't really understand why they haven't done it.

Bagpuss.

bagpus - that is EXACTLY how my car behaved from the day i got it until last week, when it must have got affected by the work the dealer did.

I agree that putting in reverse shoudl turn all sensors on. What I am saying is that the OPTION to turn OFF the FRONT sensors has always been there, until now. Similarly the manual control to turn ON the FRONT sensors was there before but now the switch mysteriously turns ON the FRONT and REAR. this is silly as i dont want the REARS on when i am going FORWARDS.

infoschumi - read the details exactly of what i wrote previously and you will see that I agree with you. In some situations you need front and rear but the manual control I have experienced for the past 2 months has gone.

It seams like another coding issue here- some of us have cars that function like mine used to and some have cars that function like mine does now. I just want to go back to the original set up as thay is what the demo cars did and that is what i thought I was getting.

I agree that putting in reverse shoudl turn all sensors on. What I am saying is that the OPTION to turn OFF the FRONT sensors has always been there, until now. Similarly the manual control to turn ON the FRONT sensors was there before but now the switch mysteriously turns ON the FRONT and REAR. this is silly as i dont want the REARS on when i am going FORWARDS.

I dont know whether i am confused here or just losing the will to live but why would the reverse sensors be on if the car was travelling forward???