Low level driving/fog lights - I have been stopped by the police at night for having one fog light out of action. This occurred at night, in an urban area, at low speed, where by the cars design, the low level fog lights switch on and off, on sharpish corners to provide extra illumination at kerb level - one light at a time depending upon turn direction. Police suggest that front fog lights should be in pairs and the lights as fitted could be illegal. They didn't believe the light arrangement was by design, and I couldn't be bothered to get out the handbook to prove it. Otherwise it was just a good excuse to stop someone late at night. Any views?

Next time when they stop you,get in the car and prove this by turning the steering wheel,maybe they will be 'amazed' by the new invention

Really? Mercs have been doing this for years, were they really that thick??

The Police never stop Mercs :D:D:D

Would be very interesting to hear how many others have been in this situation.

I had trouble when brake lights were first fitted in rear windows, you are going to find that it will take a long time for this lighting system to be recognised by the police forces, even as said it has been installed in other makes for some time. Perhaps it is the SKODA badge.

Technically the fog lights are fitted in pairs and do illuminate in pairs, when one of them is lit it is a cornering light

I'm sure the police will catch up eventually

i would print off the cornering light documentation and take it to your local plod shop for the attention of that copper i use to get stopped years ago by the same copper, after 3 producers in four days i took them into the station spoke to the desk sergent and also gave him a photocopy of my licence and insurance and told them to pin it on the wall and make sure the officer and any others on duty saw it to save on their time and my time with producers... think the copper might have got a *******ing (must have thought i was going in daily with the producers).

front foglights are not an mot testable item so i doesn't even matter if they dont work

I've never heard of that feature - but I like it!

I would be richer if I had been given a £10 note every time some one had told me I had a fog light out on my new superb.

Whilst I agree that fog lights are not a testable item on a car the law does state I believe that if a light is fitted to the car it must work this is why they are stopping people and the fact they are numpties, wait until they start using them lol, may well be a case of police man stop thy self.

SNOB:thumbup:

I've never heard of that feature - but I like it!

I find it a bit annoying...

You will be interested to know that there has been posts on another site around police stopping some Fiat 500 drivers for having foglights on, when in fact it was the daylight running lights. ( the fogs - if fitted- are down in the valance ).

OP Did you not just switch on your front fogs to show that they are indeed both working?

I've never heard of that feature - but I like it!

They had them on a Fiat Bravo I had the misfortune of driving.. IMO a pretty useless feature as they gave zero benefit when cornering.

i think they are a good idea in principle but in practice i dont find them that useful as the area they illuminate is blocked form my vision by the A pillar.

I would be richer if I had been given a £10 note every time some one had told me I had a fog light out on my new superb.

Whilst I agree that fog lights are not a testable item on a car the law does state I believe that if a light is fitted to the car it must work this is why they are stopping people and the fact they are numpties, wait until they start using them lol, may well be a case of police man stop thy self.

SNOB:thumbup:

Thats right i dont think its an MOT thing but rather under the Construction and USE regulations

Im gonna take a guess that the plod that stopped you were just locals, ie beat bobbies rather than from a traffic division.

Steve

There is a thread on here about a chap, a serving police officer off-duty, who got stopped by some local plod who told him his HID headlights were illegal on his Octy VRS (WRC?). Despite explaining who he was and that the lights were standard, the plod was having none of it

Cornering foglights? that'll take years for them to get use to.

They were not traffic cops as they would know about most of the features available on new models. If they thought the lights were illegal they'd have given you a Fixed Penalty, so it was just excuse to stop you, must have been a slow night.

SMStext is talking cobblers, ignore what he suggests. If he ever did actually go down his local cop shop and demand that they pin his docs on the wall, he'd have got locked up under the ways and means act.

SMStext is talking cobblers, ignore what he suggests. If he ever did actually go down his local cop shop and demand that they pin his docs on the wall, he'd have got locked up under the ways and means act.

me and my mates used to get stopped loads back in the day!! burning road the mean streets of hayling island in our dogged out machines... i used to wait till i had a few producers stockpiled before i'd bother going in, got 4 in the same week once.. ahh the memories... good times:)

may be the cop just want to see your lovely car.....

in France i have the same problem :-)

may well be a case of police man stop thy self.

Don't you mean:

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

???

Sorry.

:sofahide:

"Who will police those who police ?" I think is how it translates (crudely)

I have seen many cars recently with the foglamp cornering feature (Fiats and even a Ford) so the police must see it very often nowadays

Are you sure that you weren't stopped for using front fogs in good visibility ?

Both front and rear fog lights should ONLY be used in seriously reduced visibility.

Even if the visibility is seriously reduced, the fog lights should still be switched off if the car is in a queue of traffic.

Front Fog Lamps can be used with, or without front headlamps (according to the law), but MUST only be used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility. The Highway Code defines this as visibility restricted to less than 100 metres.

Source(s):

The Highway Code

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/index.htm

94: You MUST NOT

use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users

use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users.

Law RVLR reg 27

201: You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 211).

Law RVLR regs 25 & 27

The Law:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1989/Uksi_19...

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 provide

"Reg 27. No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road any vehicle on which any lamp, hazard warning signal device or warning beacon of a type specified in an item in column 2 of the Table below is used in a manner specified in that item in column 3:

Front fog lamp

(a) Used so as to cause undue dazzle or discomfort to other persons using the road.

( Used so as to be lit at any time other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility.

© Used so as to be lit when a vehicle is parked.

Rear fog lamp

(a) Used so as to cause undue dazzle or discomfort to the driver of a following vehicle.

( Used so as to be lit at any time other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility.

© Save in the case of an emergency vehicle, used so as to be lit when a vehicle is parked."

Are you sure that you weren't stopped for using front fogs in good visibility ?

Both front and rear fog lights should ONLY be used in seriously reduced visibility.

Even if the visibility is seriously reduced, the fog lights should still be switched off if the car is in a queue of traffic.

Front Fog Lamps can be used with, or without front headlamps (according to the law), but MUST only be used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility. The Highway Code defines this as visibility restricted to less than 100 metres.

Source(s):

The Highway Code

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/index.htm

94: You MUST NOT

use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users

use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users.

Law RVLR reg 27

201: You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 211).

Law RVLR regs 25 & 27

The Law:

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/SI/si1989/Uksi_19...

The Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989 provide

"Reg 27. No person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road any vehicle on which any lamp, hazard warning signal device or warning beacon of a type specified in an item in column 2 of the Table below is used in a manner specified in that item in column 3:

Front fog lamp

(a) Used so as to cause undue dazzle or discomfort to other persons using the road.

( Used so as to be lit at any time other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility.

© Used so as to be lit when a vehicle is parked.

Rear fog lamp

(a) Used so as to cause undue dazzle or discomfort to the driver of a following vehicle.

( Used so as to be lit at any time other than in conditions of seriously reduced visibility.

© Save in the case of an emergency vehicle, used so as to be lit when a vehicle is parked."

You must be a policeman

Front Fog Lamps can be used with, or without front headlamps (according to the law), but MUST only be used in conditions of seriously reduced visibility...

Does this mean they're illegal, full-stop?