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does anyone knows where can I buy it ..or even better how to built it :D

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If your gearbox and clutch are not up to quick shifts the short shift will just save a bit of cabin space, you could do the same for this effect just by cutting the gear lever down, and if required rethreading the top, for the gear knob to sit lower in the car.

 

11 hours ago, nta16 said:

you could do the same for this effect just by cutting the gear lever down

 

As i have seen in other cars as MX-5 Miata the new lever has bigger length below the ball.

 

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Miata is the American name, at home it's called the Eunos and in UK MX-5.

 

Yeap, you alter the point of wotsit (fulcrum?) pretty standard stuff, either kit adaptation or as you have shown replaced lever.

 

MX-5 / Eunos (Miata) is the biggest selling sportcar ever so has lots of aftermarket support and tuning and cosmetics items for sale.

 

Was going to suggest you don't rely on America for your info but I changed my mind.

 

 

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changed my mind

Vauxhall isn't the right side steering wheel of Opel in UK?

American cars have many differences with European, i just read, can not apply exactly of what they say.

I have replaced some parts in my Felicia few years ago, the gear lever was a bit ''loose", now it's OK but i don't want to shorten the upper part of the lever.

19 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

 

Interesting, it looks like they just put together two auxiliary levers (the one that's in front of the gear lever) and moved the pivot upwards to compensate. It's obviously meant only for hard motor mounts, since it lacks the secondary rod which compensates for engine movements.

44 minutes ago, Papez said:

It's obviously meant only for hard motor mounts

 

Oh, so it's not for us.

Yeap Vauxhall was RHD Opel part of GM, the company that the American government bailed out then later things got even worse ending in Stellantis.

 

America isn't the only place that you can get your information from.

 

Quickshift, short shift, these are about motor sports, what's good for motor sports might not be so good on a road use car or even not good at all.  Shortening the existing gear lever at least keeps standard parts that you know fit and work, whether this or different parts actually achieve what you want is a different matter.  I've had shorter levers in two of my cars, one I just cut the length down in situ, didn't  even need to thread it, it gave me the effect I wanted more elbow and knuckles room.

 

Below cheap quickshift lever being offered up for my mate to cut down and thread at his work during hie lunch break.

 

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2 hours ago, nta16 said:

America isn't the only place that you can get your information from.

 

Different Motorsport world, racing in oval tracks, mainly RWD, lot of displacement engines, 0-60 mph, dragster, big size car body, very wide tyres and donuts,ugly masks (car grill), no metric system etc which don't fit to our ways.

 

2 hours ago, nta16 said:

what's good for motor sports might not be so good on a road use car or even not good at all.

 

First time i heard about Quick shift was before 25 years, in the beginning there were negative comments (too tight, too stiff) from the first drivers and was very expensive here, now things changed but no kit for Felicia.

 

In the photo the gear stick is already big in height, in Felicia if i make it shorter will be like this:

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If you wanted you could go even shorter by using a different gear lever knob.

 

There where DIY solutions for quick shift lever on the Ford Type 9 gearbox that cost pennies and IIRC very little simple work.

 

Just fix your sloppy gear shifter and leave short shifters far far away from the car, these cars can't even handle normal shifting speed, worse so, faster.

12 hours ago, Thefeliciahacker said:

Just fix your sloppy gear shifter

 

Already fixed years ago, whole kit installed.

 

 

I alwayd loved the "click-click" gear changes of the ferrari Dino, take a look at this guy (with sandals) what does with his so expensive classic car.

 

Sorry that didn't impress me, good that the chap knew his car and what to do to improve the gear change by a bit of revs matching but even with the fresh different oil the gearbox was a nightmare.

 

Such a waste of that car being on those wide and ultra wide roads.

 

Wearing sandals depending on the sole should make things easier, on the video he looked like he had (like me) wide feet and no disrespect to the chap but he wasn't a young slim Italian (with shorter legs and perhaps smaller and narrower feet).  Best click type sound and feel to getting into gear on gear lever I have experienced was in my neighbour's 28k-miles (48,000 km) Kia Picanto, best gear lever changes and feel was on the Mk1 and Mk2 MX-5s.

 

The clutch and its set up can make a big difference to the efficiency and enjoyment, or not, of the gear changes and feel.

 

 

I have to agree of what he says in 2:17

 

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What he says from 3:00 to 3:52 would probably be more relevant on a quickshift, I doubt any shift for a car like a Felica would have the quickshift extremes of a MX-5 or that Porsche unless the Felica was used for motorsport or some youngster has the seat set so low.

 

From your Monday post on (I've not read further back) you were the only one advocating changing to a quickshift, if you have changed your mind then that is fine and good.

 

3 hours ago, nta16 said:

 

From your Monday post on (I've not read further back) you were the only one advocating changing to a quickshift, if you have changed your mind then that is fine and good.

 

 

I like to search things and make modifications when i feel that would help me.

I have looked in the past some times for quick shifter but the negative comments from drivers which installed aftermarket were more than the positive (except factory parts as in the video).

The quest continues...

7 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

The quest continues...

Why, it's only worth doing if you need the space for your knuckles and/or elbow, but as always I'm sure you'll go your own way, even if you do shift quicker you'll probably be waiting for box to catch up (and perhaps clutch).  I had an almost off/on clutch hydraulics (rally sport) but it made no odds the family saloon Ford type 9 gearbox took it's time still.

 

For Quick Shifter except the possible stiffness my main concern is the possible accidentally Mechanical over-rev.

In the past i have done some mistakes: first case, with 2th gear in Mountain Roads while chasing another car i pushed things too far, the rpm went far above the 5500 red line limit and must reached about 6200 rpm.

In another 2 cases in Highway from 4th to 5th (no chasing this time) i went accidentally to 3rd, in all of the 3 cases the engine rev-up to the limit and turned-off itself.

The ECU programmer's cutter saved my engine, we say it Cutter here because "it cuts the engine" and saves the motor.

1 hour ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

For Quick Shifter except the possible stiffness my main concern is the possible accidentally Mechanical over-rev.

In the past i have done some mistakes: first case, with 2th gear in Mountain Roads while chasing another car i pushed things too far, the rpm went far above the 5500 red line limit and must reached about 6200 rpm.

You are making assumptions based on that video, there are zero reasons why a quick shift for a car like yours needs to be stiff, if it is then don't buy it.  If you foul up a gear change that is your fault, possible with any gear lever you adjust the way you handle the gear lever as required, the shorter leverage means you need less force to move it(unless resistance has been increased) and as it's moving a shorter distance the change will be faster if you, the gearbox or clutch can't cope with this then there's no point having the quickshift.

 

Do not chase other vehicles on public roads - that how serious accidents can happen, you carry on doing that too much and your mate's prophecy may come true.

 

You've got an ECU and mapping, put the rev limiter at a lower setting if you can't train yourself, if you were concentrating on your driving instead of chasing you'd soon know your mistake and be able to reduce the effects of that mistake.

 

Unless you want or need to save space don't bother with a quickshift or shorter gear lever as it's very doubtful it would do much with your standard gearbox that's 24 years use and abuse - but no doubt you will want to discover this for yourself.  You would not like a Felicia set up for faster fast road use, you would moan about the noise, vibration and additional speed up wear on components and parts.

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

put the rev limiter at a lower setting if you can't train yourself

 

One mistake in 24 years is acceptable, i did't looked the rpm that time, i was in an overtake and my eyes were in the road ahead.

A turn was in front of me and i wanted to catch it.

 

1 hour ago, nta16 said:

there are zero reasons why a quick shift for a car like yours needs to be stiff, if it is then don't buy it.

 

No Felicia quick shift in the market as there are for other models.

No video about the installation and no opinions from other Felicia drivers so i can not know about the feeling.

I can improvise but the risk is 100% mine, if it does not work i have to pay a lot to install a new gear stick.

It's a very difficult decision.

 

7 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

It's a very difficult decision.

No it is not, it is easy decision - don't bother.

 

 

7 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

One mistake in 24 years is acceptable,

Stick with the following video it's top quality British humour from the brilliant Chris Morris and Steve Coogan, just one of their brilliant shows.-

Day Today — Pool Attendant - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8YfgxF3APY

 

 

An explanation which you may not follow as it's all British type humour.  Chris Morris's radio and TV shows "Jam" are cult status, even in the USA!!!! (but probably not suited to RC Europe) - https://www.comedy.co.uk/tv/the_day_today/quotes/

 

9 hours ago, nta16 said:

it is easy decision - don't bother

 

If there was a kit for Felicia in the market i could give a try but now it's a risk to make a modification.

 

As for the humour we always prefered Benny Hill, we don't lough with any other style.

 

By the way in the classic cars in case of Mechanical over-rev there were no safety features to save the engine?

3 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

By the way in the classic cars in case of Mechanical over-rev there were no safety features to save the engine?

Yes the driver.  😊

 

Or for those who concentrate more on beating other drivers on the road or race use perhaps - ETA: NOTE - "Not for use with Capacitive Discharge, Multispark systems, Magneto or Flywheel ignition."

 

Lumenition Rev Limiter ERL-V (from around £145 in UK excluding P&P). - Instructions - ERL-V_instructions.pdf

 

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3 hours ago, D.FYLAKTOS said:

As for the humour we always prefered Benny Hill, we don't lough with any other style.

Often funny but often, not always, very basic, his songs were very good and very clever, he had a Number One hit in the singles chart in the 1970s, Ernie (the fast milkman in the west).

 

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