Maybe its hard for people who dont directly have a disability or have to deal with someone who is, to understand the every day battle that others take for granted.

There are some that abuse the system, there is in every system and there always will be, but please dont presume that being disabled just means they need more exercise

I try to park as far away from the masses as possible, it seems people care less and less about what cars they 'ding'. A couple of weeks ago, someone unecessarily banged their door into mine, saw I was in the car, and just walked off without even an acknowledgement that hed done it grrrrr. I can see why people get angry.

Had some **** van driver bang into the side of my old Octavia while I was sat there, looked straight at me then walked off.

I waited till he went inside the shop and keyed the f*ck out of the side of his van

Not had problems with the fabia, but my golf seemed to attract door bangers. Mostly 4x4's, who obviously decided that it would be easier to bang my car than open the door gently.

As for parent and child spaces, they should exist but not at the front of the shop where the genuine disabled spaces should be.

Having spent a lot of time working with disabled people, it can be infurating to see some fat mum and here fat kid get out by the shop and you have to park half a car park away to unload a frigging wheelchair out the back of a van. Grrr....

I have no problem at all with Disabled Parking bays. I have a disabled ex-Father-in Law, and a disabled Grandaughter, so have some (albeit limited) comprehension of the difficulties everyday life throws at them.

That is the point - they had no say in the matter, life just dealt them a sh*tty hand.

But having children is a life style choice, as is taking them with you to the Supermarket. YOU chose to have children, you choose to take them shopping with you, and now you expect the rest of the world to make allowances for YOUR choices.

The quote above from missyp about "parking next to you and letting Owen open his door" (I paraphrase) is almost a classic. Instead of either leaving them behind, or training and controlling the child / children so that they learn not cause damage to other peoples property there have to be "special" places so they can do what they like.

Sorry, as far as I'm concerned it is up to parents to adapt their lives, not to expect the rest of the world to make allowances for them.

(Don't even get me started on what it is that persuades wrinklies to go Supermarket shopping on a Saturday morning, and use the aisles as a geriatric social club)

I'll remember to come down to Oxford and let Owen open a door next to yours then

Cheryl Its because parents who cannot control their kids who let them kick the doors open' date=' thats what child locks are for and beleive me if my child had ever kicked the door open it wouldnt be sitting on its backside for a week. What you do is you get out the car and open it and hold it there, but then if the child is opening the door and kicking it open then it sounds like they were not buckled up correctly in the back either.

pratt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

your legs work fine so why dont you park at the back you lazy *********.

shocking statement do you honestly think that ???

i for one never brake the rules and only use the right spaces( honest lol)

Where do you think I park then? I like my walks from the back of the car park watching all the other people fight for the spaces near the front. Jezz only a toungue in cheek comment :p

I have no problem at all with Disabled Parking bays. I have a disabled ex-Father-in Law, and a disabled Grandaughter, so have some (albeit limited) comprehension of the difficulties everyday life throws at them.

That is the point - they had no say in the matter, life just dealt them a sh*tty hand.

But having children is a life style choice, as is taking them with you to the Supermarket. YOU chose to have children, you choose to take them shopping with you, and now you expect the rest of the world to make allowances for YOUR choices.

The quote above from missyp about "parking next to you and letting Owen open his door" (I paraphrase) is almost a classic. Instead of either leaving them behind, or training and controlling the child / children so that they learn not cause damage to other peoples property there have to be "special" places so they can do what they like.

Sorry, as far as I'm concerned it is up to parents to adapt their lives, not to expect the rest of the world to make allowances for them.

(Don't even get me started on what it is that persuades wrinklies to go Supermarket shopping on a Saturday morning, and use the aisles as a geriatric social club)

couldnt have put it better myself, it really grinds my balls when you want to go shopping and its like a 6 year olds birthday party, the parents have no control or dont care if their kids are causing havoc

a kid once ran into my trolley, banging his head, i didnt apologise as i did nothing wrong, mother looked at me like i put him in the trolley and went jackass on him

1.) Watch telly, preferably comedy ('The Office' is very good, I recommend it)

2.) Get a sense of humour.

3.) Go forth.

Also, 'prat' has one 't', and it's 'BREAK', not 'BRAKE'.

Prat.

great sense of humour that one making remarks about disabled people...when you have to suffer like some people very close to me then you realise why your comments are not good wether it having a laugh or not!!!

sorry if you didnt like what i said or got the spelling wrong but you must see your comments could be taken the wrong way buddy

sorry for being a bit blunt freedom love

sms cuddles allaround:D:thumbup:

Edited 24 June, 200916 yr by westallc

Call me lazy but i usually go for the spaces that i can drive in then through to the other side

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but one time so middle aged posh lady moned at me for doing so as i wouldnt be able to put shopping in the boot, but as i was just popping in for a coule things id didnt matter....

****ing hate car parks.

is it wrong to hold massive and utter contempt toward a large proportion of the British public?

****ing hate car parks.

is it wrong to hold massive and utter contempt toward a large proportion of the British public?

I don't think it's wrong as I feel the same!

Wifey works at tesco and has had many dents, dings and a couple of £1k repair jobs over the years. She's tried parking in different remote areas of the car park but the Barstewarts still hunt the car down.

[iRONY]I think the Austrians have the right idea on raising kids,

keep 'em locked in a basement until they're 30!

No worrying about parent & child spaces then.[/iRONY]

(insert disclaimer here)

****ing hate car parks.

is it wrong to hold massive and utter contempt toward a large proportion of the British public?

No, it's normal.

Not to mention the abandoned trolleys roaming the car park becuase they were too feckin lazy to put it back.

Far end of the car park for me and I won't even go in the place on a Saturday. but that's not just about parking.

Same here.

But having children is a life style choice, as is taking them with you to the Supermarket. YOU chose to have children, you choose to take them shopping with you, and now you expect the rest of the world to make allowances for YOUR choices.

Couldn't agree more, having had a two year old chucking beer mats at me in a pub (at 9pm) because it's Mom couldn't be arsed to control him, having deemed that a pub (and not a 'family pub') is an appropriate place to take him.

Edited 27 June, 200916 yr by cjb

I use to park my Astra Coupe diagonally across 4 spaces at the late night shop.

It got to the point where someone would just park right upto it, leaving me no space to open the huge doors and then squeeze myself forwards to the seat.

This is away from the shop, i dont understand why people dont care for there cars or anyone else's property.

I even saw someone tweaking there sattelite dish stood on there car roof today!

Why do they have special "Parent & Child" bays at all?

Because when you are attempting to get a baby seat in and out you need to open the door fully ... normally that would mean denting the car next to you as this isnt possible in a normal space. Also when they then get to the age where they are mobile' date=' then then need the door fully open to get in and out with their limited motor skils... again would result in said denting issues to the car next to it. I would love them to put the spaces further away so only people who use them because of the space issue not the sodding lazyness issue use them. Would rahter park other end over 2 spaces if I cant find one as I know the force my son opens a car door with!!![/quote']

ok - MISS P - now I'm not quite a seniour citazen ,but gettin on -there's spaces for mothers and toddlers, spaces for the disabled, but I

sometimes need a little extra bit of space to swing my legs out, but I’m not disabled, not do I have my grandkids with me - SO WHERE DO I PARK ?

Not in the disabled spaces ,not that I want to deprive some disabled person of that space - BUT BECAUSE THERE'S A CAR IN THERE WITH AT LEAST ONE BABY SEAT( and a "BABY ON BOARD "sticker in the rear window) ETC - and on further observation - neither of the parents are disabled ( unless they suffer from eyesight problemsin distinguishing between a disabled symbol and a toddler sytmbol).

Another reason I DON'T WANT TO PARK IN A NORMAL SPACE ISTHE CURSE OF THE "mummymobile" - a car( usually some old shed,or some 4x4) full of kids ,parked in a normal space ,where doors get thrown open and you're P&J gets dented all over .It's my last car - next one will be the council buss pass ,I look after it -so I've no desire to see it wrecked by the uncaring .

Then ,the other day - parked in Netto car park - a normal space -left the car to see a bloke & wife get into the one next to mine - he had baby ,& opened his door right up to my car ,door resting on my paintwork - before he could do any more ,I said " sorry mate - mind if I move - I don;t fancy getting my door dented " - didn't even get an apology

I do online shops to avoid using car parks, as the world has developed a distinct lack of care towards other peoples possessions. I'd sooner pay the delivery charge, than fork out for pdr, because dents and nicks in my vehicles annoy me.

Went to local Pets At Home store today, and parked outside PC World in a disabled bay was one of these babies - be interesting to see how he/she got that badge !

Went to local Pets At Home store today, and parked outside PC World in a disabled bay was one of these babies - be interesting to see how he/she got that badge !

The badge is not issued to a specific vehicle, or even the driver, but to an individual, for their use, and carries their photograph.

Whoever drives her anywhere, normally her Mum or Dad displays the badge in their own cars.If I take our Grandaughter out, her badge is used in my car - how many other vRS's have you seen with a Blue Badge?

It could be stuck in the windscreen of a Veyron, if the holder is a passenger.

Round here they issue fines to non parents using parent spaces.

The badge is not issued to a specific vehicle, or even the driver, but to an individual, for their use, and carries their photograph.

Whoever drives her anywhere, normally her Mum or Dad displays the badge in their own cars.If I take our Grandaughter out, her badge is used in my car - how many other vRS's have you seen with a Blue Badge?

It could be stuck in the windscreen of a Veyron, if the holder is a passenger.

I stand corrected - that could be one explanation.

The other is that the driver is so arrogant he thinks he can park anywhere and get away with it. I seem to recall that the driver's window was wound down, with driver sat inside, so the passenger couldn't have needed a great deal of assistance in getting about.

You're probably right - people think disabled bays are fair game if they're "only going to be 5 minutes" but unfortunately people make assumptions. (Sorry, I don't mean to be rude to you personally)

It's an ongoing beef with me. We were ranted at in Newquay last year by an elderly couple for taking the last disabled spot in a car park - I don't put the "badge" in the screen until we park - who insisted loudly that we move as they were entitled etc. etc.

We ignored them, which made them louder, SWMBO helped her out of the car, I opened the boot, removed and assembled her wheelchair and all of a sudden it went quiet and they left.

how many other vRS's have you seen with a Blue Badge?

I see one every day.

It happened again.... 2 days ago I came out from shopping to a mum putting a kid in the back of her focus estate with the door full wide open onto my door. She saw me coming with the trolley and soon tried to get the door shut and pretend it wasnt, she just gave me a quick 'oh well, **** happens!' glance. GAH!

To add insult to injury parked the other side was a 3 door yellow megane. His drivers door was about 8-10 inches from mine, there is no way they opened their door and got out without hitting mine. *sigh*

Are car park spaces getting thinner?:confused:

When ever I go off shopping I always try and park away from everyone else usually next to an expensive car like a mercedes or bmw as there less likely to be clumsy opening there doors.

Its 99% guaranteed though when I do park away from everyone else even if the car park is virtually empty someone will park right next to me !!!

It annoys the **** out of me

To add insult to injury parked the other side was a 3 door yellow megane. His drivers door was about 8-10 inches from mine, there is no way they opened their door and got out without hitting mine. *sigh*

Im gonna sound stupid now, but sometimes i do park and look and think, erm, i aint getting outta this for **** now, not due to my parking, but either theirs or jus unusualy small bays, as long as its to their pax side, i have been know to climb over and get out the pax side of my car

When ever I go off shopping I always try and park away from everyone else usually next to an expensive car like a mercedes or bmw as there less likely to be clumsy opening there doors.

LOL from here south you'd park well away from these.

Hubby's at work, and SWMBO has the keys