What's the best price you've found the 1.8TSi for, with the options you want/need?

I'd get a DTD quote and then goto your dealer with it, in the case of both the TDi vRS and 1.8TSi. You don't have to use them, but it might encourage the dealer to do you a better deal

And I honestly can't see your concerns over a private sale, but there you go.

Steve

Thats not a bad price for the VRS, personally I'd go for that, so what if your not doing 10k per annum, I think it looks better than the Elegance any day.

I went for the 2.0 petrol as it was cheaper and also don't do that much milage but I'm not so bothered about how much I spend fueling it.

I have a stage one Revo on mine and have found that fuel economy has improved a little with it. I tend not to pay too much attention to the dash MPG readout but fill my tank to the brim and reset my trip counter. On my last refuel I put in 48.40 litres/ 10.65 gallons and had covered 401 miles which works out at 37.6 MPG. The dash readout was showing 39.5 MPG.:confused:

I have acheived 42.2 MPG out of one tank of careful driving but my normal is around 36-38. I don't nurse neither redline it.

A few years ago I went on a fuel efficient driving course, albeit for lorries and the instructor told me to block-change up and down the box missing out gears where suitable. Since then I've owned three cars with six speed gearboxes and have put it into practise using 1,2,3,6 or 1,2,4,6 going up.

I'm not going to open a can of worms by saying this is the correct way to drive:rofl: but I have found it has worked for me and suits my driving style resulting in better fuel economy.

What's the best price you've found the 1.8TSi for, with the options you want/need?

I'd get a DTD quote and then goto your dealer with it, in the case of both the TDi vRS and 1.8TSi. You don't have to use them, but it might encourage the dealer to do you a better deal

And I honestly can't see your concerns over a private sale, but there you go.

Steve

I'd do so but DTD charge you £35 for the print out! :eek:

Unless you know a way of circumventing it.

Oh I can get the 1,8 TSi DSG Elegance for £16243. The vRS 2,0 TFSi DSG for £17285.

Like I said the problem comes with the reg plate transfer, I don't know how to do it, where I have to go to get it done. I DO know that it costs £80 to do it.

Edited 23 August, 200916 yr by Indiana Jones

The dealer should do it for you. You might have to run around with the new/exisitng plate on for a bit whilst the DVLA sit on their *rse and do a **** all for a bit, whilst charging £105 for the privilege. The car you're trading in will have to go back to its old plate and the new one needs registering with your private plate. It's a pain the **** but it's the price you pay for that exclusivity. It now puts me off changing the car regularly because of the hassle but there you go...!

Are those DTD prices for vehicles with std spec, or those with the extras you want on them?

Steve

Those are the specced up prices.

Right, so for £35 for a DTD quote, and the potential to perhaps save £1500-odd if the dealer will match them, isn't it worth a go?

Steve

I think these figures have put me off the vRS a bit more, I think I'd like a bit more economy than what it seems to be giving most of you here.

So I think it'll be the 1,8 DSG Elegance for me, which is less thirsty, not much slower (0,6 sec 0-62mph), not that I'll be using the full power of the car anyway, it's lower insurance & cheaper to buy and initially better specced as well.

It's also less prominent, to the boys in blue & thieves.

Ta All.

IJ

I've been window shopping an Octy estate now for several months and seem to change my mind with the wind. I, too, was considering a vRS (albeit a diesel) but after long and careful consideration I'm now currently leaning towards a 1.8TSI DSG Elegance. I can get a better spec for the same price and with similar performance, plus no DPF to worry about.

I really do like the more aggressive look of the vRS though (and the highly bolstered seats) but, on balance, I think the 1.8TSI Elegance will be a great, understated, package once specced up.

:iagree:

I think I've made my decision.

Like you gr8britwjh, I keep changing my mind so often it gives me a headache!

But even though I absolutely adore the looks of a vRS, it's the figures that literally count.

One thing where I live is there's nowhere the pure pace & performance of a car like the vRS can be used, this car that I'm buying now will be used primarily as a car to get me from home to work & back, I believe that the performance of such a nice car as the vRS would be wasted on me with such short trips (7 miles each way), I don't make many long trips a year, so again the pace & performance is wasted.

The drop of economy by switching from diesel to petrol isn't so severe with the Elegance either, which I guess is down to the 7-speed DSG box it's fitted with.

I wonder what the fitment of the 7-speed box would do for the vRS's economy & CO² figures?

Also by buying the Elegance my insurance will go down & not up for a change, although the road tax will increase slightly by £25, it's when it comes down to the fuel consumption, then there's a marked difference..

vRS 2,0 TFSi (200) DSG

Urban - 27,2

Xtra Urban - 45,6

Combined - 36,7

CO² - 180

Elegance 1,8 TSI (160) DSG

Urban - 31,0

Xtra Urban - 52,3

Combined - 42,8

CO² - 155

Which may not sound a lot, but over a tank full, it gives me quite a few more miles on a tank & with fuel being expensive nowadays it's "every little helps" thing

There's also a £1k difference in the price, which helps too.

This equates to about 18 full tanks of fuel!

Also the vRS VED jumps significantly next year by 14,285% to £200, where as the 1,8 TSI only goes up by 3.33% to £155.

VED Rates in 2009-10

Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee

Band B (101-110g/km CO2) £35

Band C (111-120g/km CO2) £35

Band D (121-130g/km CO2) £120

Band E (131-140g/km CO2) £120

Band F (141- 150g/km CO2) £125

Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) £150

Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) £175

Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) £175

Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) £215

Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) £215

Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) £405

Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) £405

VED Rates in 2010-11

Band A (up to 100g/km CO2) no fee

Band B (101-110g/km CO2) £20

Band C (111-120g/km CO2) £30

Band D (121-130g/km CO2) £90

Band E (131-140g/km CO2) £110

Band F (141- 150g/km CO2)£125

Band G (151 to 165g/km CO2) £155

Band H (166 to 175g/km CO2) £180

Band I (176 to 185g/km CO2) £200

Band J (186 to 200g/km CO2) £235

Band K (201 to 225g/km CO2) £245

Band L (226 to 255g/km CO2) £425

Band M (Over 255g/km CO2) £435

Also the vRS VED jumps significantly next year by 14,285% to £200, where as the 1,8 TSI only goes up by 3.33% to £155.

The only thing that's bothering me slightly now is the residuals, but that's something I'm just going to have to live with.

I spend most of my time to and from work in 50/60 zones (25 miles round trip)

I usually use the car at weekend for shopping and town driving.

Over the course of the year i have consistantly hit the 34-35 mpg per tank reading.

It all depends on how you drive the car, i have had 40mpg a few times on teh way home, but have also had late 20s

In the mornings i drive a mile to work, dropping off the Mrs on the way. I get about 16mpg on that one. (if i didnt need the car to go straight from work i'd probably not bother, as although the journey is a mile i end up doubling back on myself and am probably only 5/10 minutes walk from home by the time i park up.

If i go for a 5-10 mile trip, round town and on a couple of B roads, i get up to around 28, maybe 30

I drove 900.6 miles since last Wednesday, so pumped the tyres up a little before i went (34 all round): Dover to Liverpool, Liverpool to Newcastle, Newcastle to Sheffield, Sheffield to Dover. Most of the trips gave me about 36. I was up to 40 at one point but that was mainly due to a long 50mph set of roadworks. Sheffield to Dover was a couple of hundred miles and spent most of it at 80 (where possible) with a little bit of lead fottedness here and there, but not too much, and a bit of slower driving where necessary. Average speed i think came out as 60ish and the mpg was 34.9

These are all indicated mpg per the trip computer, but i did a full to full test to scotland and back 1,000 miles or more) in April and came up with a calculated mpg (IIRC of about 32/33) which was within 0.5 of the indicated figure.

I have a 2007 manual TFSI that averages 12k miles a year.

Trip computer suggests 34.6mpg (never reset), but by the one-click method, I calculate real consumption to be 34.7mpg (using 95RON).

Fairly happy with this, especially as long motorway journeys returns more than 40mpg (although I was only getting 18mpg in the Lakes last week).

Check this out, it settled me on a diesel as presuming the cost of fuel stays the same it'll take me 18months to recoup the extra cost splashed out on a diesel. i did get a cracking deal on my new car that narrowed the price gap a bit

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