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Yes, that's just a remap on an otherwise standard car.

I don't want to up my boost any more than it is (1350mbar) and to be honest can't see the point in my car having more power than it has now. It breaks traction in 2nd in the dry and 3rd in the wet by just planting the throttle from a rolling start. I really don't see how any more will benefit me.

If anything I think I'm going to back mine off a bit for winter.

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could that be down to tyres though. traction on mine is suprisingly good, unless i am to aggressive. ive also found that short shifting from 1st to second actually makes it go quicker as i dont have to worry about breaking traction and the esp cutting power. whats suspension mods are you running.

At the moment unless it is really wet im happy with traction

when I had mine dyno'd at AMD essex i had ago in his vRS with stage 2 amd remap and it noticably span the wheels more than mine, although we both agreed after that mine was undoubtably quicker and had less traction issues.

he also had no suspension mods whereas i have quite a few and vredesteins which are very good. much more traction than when i had my toyos

i read a comment on mk5golfgti.co.uk about a guy with a k03gti who had a 3" DP like me, and had previously had a 2.75"miltek. he noticed a small drop in lower end torque right at the bottom of the rev range, he then states he preferred it as his traction was improved .

this is his opinion though, this and others could all make difference

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could that be down to tyres though. traction on mine is suprisingly good, unless i am to aggressive. ive also found that short shifting from 1st to second actually makes it go quicker as i dont have to worry about breaking traction and the esp cutting power. whats suspension mods are you running.

At the moment unless it is really wet im happy with traction

I'm running Dunlop Sport Maxx tyres, they get a good writeup and have seem pretty good to me, so I don't think it's them.

I don't want to up my boost any more than it is (1350mbar) and to be honest can't see the point in my car having more power than it has now. It breaks traction in 2nd in the dry and 3rd in the wet by just planting the throttle from a rolling start. I really don't see how any more will benefit me.

If anything I think I'm going to back mine off a bit for winter.

Then you can break traction in the dry in 3rd. :D

At the end of the day though the accelerator is not just an on/off switch. :o

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At the end of the day though the accelerator is not just an on/off switch. :o

:confused: Yes I know that..

:confused: Yes I know that..

Only saying. :(

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Only saying. :(

What I'm trying to say is that even if I strapped a GT3071 or something to the back of it, I wouldn't be able to make any more progress because it's already breaking traction. So I don't see the need for more power, as it would make my car less driveable.

What I'm trying to say is that even if I strapped a GT3071 or something to the back of it, I wouldn't be able to make any more progress because it's already breaking traction. So I don't see the need for more power, as it would make my car less driveable.

My K04 has made the car no less driveable than when it had the K03.

Sure, I've had to adapt my style slightly and ease the power in a bit more but driven correctly it will not break traction in any gear.

a k04 is more progressive than the K04 and boost comes in a little higher, taken to an even bigger extreme with the gt3017.

i dont think stage 2 is anywhere near the maximum the car can handle unless you are going apesh!t with the loud pedal all the time. stage 2+ is not about standing strts either its about having the torque to pull really hard without having to change down a gear. 3rd and 4th are where it matters in my opinion, and then you shouldnt be having traction issues

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If you're having to ease the power in, then what's the point of having all that extra power?

Does anyone see what I'm getting at? If I can break traction in 3rd when pressing on, and above 4th is a license loser, then why have even more power?

You can still use all the power in every gear...you just cant stamp on the throttle. I really don't have much trouble with it and I enjoy driving it in this way

If you're having to ease the power in, then what's the point of having all that extra power?

Does anyone see what I'm getting at? If I can break traction in 3rd when pressing on, and above 4th is a license loser, then why have even more power?

To haul 2 ton of S8 along, though suppose thats cheating with quattro. I'll shutup now :D

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Ahhh well Mr V8 Man.. quattro is a whoooole different ball game. With quattro all you need to worry about are how good your tyres and clutch are :D

Forget the S8, you wanna see a stripped out 15 year old Audi estate move ;)

ETA for re-build completion?

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End of the month hopefully. Been pretty busy lately!

If you're having to ease the power in, then what's the point of having all that extra power?

Does anyone see what I'm getting at? If I can break traction in 3rd when pressing on, and above 4th is a license loser, then why have even more power?

what your saying works in traffic light gran prix's.

if you can break traction in 3rd when pressing on id say your map is to aggressive, or your tyres are not up to the job, which is entirely possible i had mega traction issues with my T1R toyos, but i dont have that now.

i do fully agree there is no point uping the power if you can put it down, hence my chassis upgrades and higher spec tyres.

tracking my car around the ring i never lost traction with the new tyres, unless i powered on to early which is my fault not the cars.

What your saying i guess is fine if your car is only ever used as a commuter then stage 2 is ample

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How can it possibly be too aggressive when all people have told me in this thread I that Revo is better because it gives you more torque. The graphs show that the Revo is more likely to be the aggressive one, if of course the graphs are even worth the paper they're printed on.

2nd and sometimes 3rd exit corners can light the tyres up when trying to make maximum progress, particularly in the wet. That's why (in my opinion) there's no point in having more power. It was pretty quick at Castle Combe last time it was there too ;)

here is my graph that i had done at AMD technik. just over a month back.

I had initially been really looking into getting a new map as i wasnt happy with the bluefin stage 2 as it felt a little iffy at higher revs and whgen at the ring with my friend in his stage 2 revo GTI he promptly drove off from me. as you can see there was a huge hole in the power at 4800 rpm.which thank god was cured by this

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ignoring peak figures you can see the increase provided over the entire rev range from installing the fuel pump and pump specific map. pretty much 20Ibft minimum over the entire rev range. and it was very noticable, although slight;y over shadowed by that huuuuuge improvment after 4800rpm.

Supposbly bluefin remaps get a little better with a bit of adaption time, and i think i would agree, it did get better and smoother.

I am however still very interested in getting another brand of remap, either revo or custom as i want a remap that gives me oodles of torque.Had i been able to give a little more warning i could have been cutting about with shark stage 3 but it was too short notice.:(

I still havent tried a revo stage 2+ revo yet though, only Ko4 upgraded revo software on sibarts vRS and carls stage 2 vRS. Maybe mine is comparable to them.

it does go like hell now though, and is much more eager to rev thatn before since changing intake.

Next JKM rr day illl definateky go so i can get a look at the figures and meet some new faces

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better copy of dyno printout

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Yeah shame I couldn't do that day but I was trading at Audi Driver International.. something I couldn't put off unfortunately. Are you up again any time soon?

money went on R32 brakes instead in the end

If you're having to ease the power in, then what's the point of having all that extra power?

Does anyone see what I'm getting at? If I can break traction in 3rd when pressing on, and above 4th is a license loser, then why have even more power?

After driving 363 miles on a ko4 equiped car i have to disagree with you, it can make more progress than a maxed out ko3 no probs at all, regarding the wet i don't drive like a loon, it's not safe anyway. Good to meet you by the way :thumbup:

Apologies for the picture quality or if there is any stains present :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Apparently the highest bhp k04 conversion so far that JKM has done.

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that is low torque though in comparison to a stage 2+. id rather take harrys i think. it looked a little smoother and with more torque

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