Just some further thoughts on the small engine gearbox combination:

On a flat moderately twisty road, with just the driver on board, it's perfectly easy to shift all the way through to 6th without ever going above 1500 rpm and it's a very smooth (and fuel efficient) way of making progress.

However, get some passengers on board, make the road a bit more hilly and decide you want to press on a bit and you look at just under 2500 before shifting.

As has been noted, there is a slight dip or lag just below 2000 - not an issue if you are accelerating through it, you just notice an extra shove there. But shifting up at just below 2500, the revs tend to drop to just below 2000 during the shift (they do for me anyway, a better technique would probably avoid this) and as such I successively hit this low point on each gear change.

So, not the ideal way of driving this combination - easily avoided by shifting earlier or later, but an example of where a particular driving style may not get on well with this engine.

Thank you weaver, very valuable information's for us, future 1.2 owners

i really think the 1.2 TSI S - is the bargain of the range at £14k.

Yes diesel is a better bet for low down performance - and mpg is slightly better. But when you account for the extra cost of diesel per lite 10p? + the extra cost of 2.0 TDI engine £1.5k. You have to be doing a far few miles each year (like 20,000) to make it pay for itself in 3 yrs of ownership.

Also petrols are smoother and a LOT quieter. :yes:

i really think the 1.2 TSI S - is the bargain of the range at £14k.

Yes diesel is a better bet for low down performance - and mpg is slightly better. But when you account for the extra cost of diesel per lite 10p? + the extra cost of 2.0 TDI engine £1.5k. You have to be doing a far few miles each year (like 20,000) to make it pay for itself in 3 yrs of ownership.

Also petrols are smoother and a LOT quieter. :yes:

Just as annotation, difference between 1.2TSI and 2.0TDI in MAcedonia is cca 4000 EUR, due to additional taxes for engines over 1500 cc. Lot of petrol and kilometers!!!!

Insurance, as well

Currently only 1p difference between God's fuel (petrol), and the devil's fuel (diesel), at my local petrol stations and supermarket.

However, I can guarantee that if I buy the devil powered version, that will shoot up to 10p a litre!!!

Just make sure that your number plate reads 666 and everything will be OK

:beer:

Edited 21 December, 200916 yr by Anthony 1

Currently only 1p difference between God's fuel (petrol), and the devil's fuel (diesel), at my local petrol stations and supermarket.

However, I can guarantee that if I buy the devil powered version, that will shoot up to 10p a litre!!!

The 1.8TSI stock SE in Hull I noted had treble 6 in it's chassis number so are you sure you have things the right way round.

Currently only 1p difference between God's fuel (petrol), and the devil's fuel (diesel), at my local petrol stations and supermarket.

However, I can guarantee that if I buy the devil powered version, that will shoot up to 10p a litre!!!

That will change on 1 Jan 2010. VAT will be back to 17.5%

If you want to find out how a 4WD Yeti responds on ice with the ESP on and off, then take it for a You Drive at the Porsche Experience kickplate skidpan and ice hill at Silverstone. http://www.porsche.com/silverstone I won't tell you what to expect on your forum. I'll leave that to you.

HJ

Edited 19 January, 201016 yr by Honest John himself

If you want to find out how a 4WD Yeti responds on ice with the ESP on and off, then take it for a You Drive at the Porsche Experience kickplate skidpan and ice hill at Silverstone. http://www.porsche.com/silverstone I won't tell you what to expect on your forum. I'll leave that to you.

HJ

Hi and welcome to the SMOC,

thanks for the link, certainly looks like a good thing to try out and it would also be interesting to compare the standard 17" sports tyres to 16" winters or 4 season.

Regards,

TP

Hmmmm,

I have went all googly eyed after attempting to understand yon abbreviations & their intended machinations.

However, a wee comment.

a 2wd Yeti would be my choice

(i) Its "sit up & beg"

(ii) better ground clearance for a rough potholed but level lane

(iii) Flexibility of the interior plus a square back end for to accomodate the wife's wheelchair

(iv) Hopefully a bit more robust round the suspension due to 4*4 applications

(v) we dont need 4WD EVEN in the snow or ice

Ps

diesel and DSG would be attractive though

cheers

M

Honest John himself on our forum? Blimey! We are not worthy! Welcome HJ and thanks for all the advice over the years in the Telegraph motoring supplement!

PS So how about a SMOC day out at Silverstone sometime in 2010 then? Not too uncentral to the UK - well apart from them in Wales and Scotland, and the Scandinavian branch could come over and show us how it's done!

Edited 19 January, 201016 yr by aerofurb

Welcome HJ, I always check out your site when looking at changing my car.