I am about to take delivery of a FL VRS estate and chose not to order a spare wheel as want to buy a set of rims for winter driving. My question is will any VAG brand fit. For example will a passat or A4 set fit or am I restricted? I want 16-17 inch 5 spoke second hand if possible. Thanks.

i think the newer octavias are 5x112 pcd not 5x100pcd. as long as you get any vag related wheels that are 5x112pcd the should fit but should check the ofsett and et rating before

I purchased some 17" wheels for my winter tyre's but you have to bear in mind you can not get standard snow chains on with them. Got them new off ebay for £249 and are simple 5 spoke alloy so easy to clean.

Not the cheapest way of doing things but should look ok and give good grip.

have my snow chains to

If it helps will get some pictures of them on the car as soon as it is delivered.

Mk2 octy is 5 x 112 as stated.

Thanks guys.

MkII A3 (and upwards i.e. A4, A6...), Mk5 and Mk5 6 Golf, Latest Passat should all been fine

I'm doing something similar but want to use my wheels on both Audi and FL Octy. Previous shape A4 has offset ET42. Found some "Fenix" wheels from Seat Exeo Sport (based on old shape A4) with ET43, but settled on some preFL vRS wheels to go on my Scout (when it arrives), and use the Scout wheels for mounting winter tyres on. Fingers crossed they will fit both Octy and Audi, but no great loss if they only fit the Octy.

I have a related question....I've ordered a set of winter tyres on steel wheels. Can I just use the nuts off my alloys for the few months I will have the steelies on or do I need to get other nuts? (I thought this was not an issue but now a friend has suggested it might well be a problem)

Thanks in advance.....

id get another set of nuts at the alloy nuts have a different profile and different seat on the wheel

id get another set of nuts at the alloy nuts have a different profile and different seat on the wheel

I dont think this is the case with the octy, as they are typically supplied with Steel spare wheels and alloy road wheels and you use the same bolts when fitting the steel spare to the car.

the old mans citroen is a different profile between the steel spare and alloy wheel as the nuts used have had spacers added for short term use. Which I've always thought was silly as the spare is a standard fitmet to the car.

I'd test fit one first to make sure its ok. Though on my other vag cars its not been a problem.

I dont think this is the case with the octy, as they are typically supplied with Steel spare wheels and alloy road wheels and you use the same bolts when fitting the steel spare to the car.

That would appear to settle the matter but...

To quote the manual:

Wheel bolts

Wheels and wheel bolts are matched to each other in terms of design.

Each time you fit other wheels - e.g. light alloy wheels or wheels with

winter tyres - you must therefore also use the matching wheel bolts of the

correct length and shape of spherical cap. This is essential to ensure that

the wheels are tightly fitted and that the brake system operates properly.

...

Å koda dealers are instructed in the technical possibilities which exist

regarding converting or retrofitting wheels, tyres and wheel trim.

There appear to be two part numbers for bolts:

Steel wheels: 8D0 601 139 D

Alloy wheels: WHT 001 812

IMHO the issue is too important not to take it up with a Skoda Parts Manager at some dealership and get the info from the horse's mouth?

IMHO the issue is too important not to take it up with a Skoda Parts Manager at some dealership and get the info from the horse's mouth?

Thanks, I shall do just that (and post the answer back here in case it helps someone else)

cheers

my argument would the spare wheel is exactly that, a spare temporary solution to get you home for which has probly the correct profile to match the alloy wheel nuts but permanent steelies will almost certainly have a different profile

So I have just phoned Skoda UK and enquired of them what bolts I would need to fit steel wheels to my Skoda Octavia Scout. They were actually most unhelpful and advised that because this was a modification to my vehicle then they were unable to supply this information! Almost makes me want to consider if I have actually made the right decision in buying a car from Skoda if they are unable to advise on an important safety issue like this!

So I phoned Savilles in Kidderminster and the parts department were very helpful in advising me that although there was originally a part number for steel wheel bolts this is now obsolete (since Feb 08) and there is now only one bolt type available. He also pointed out that as I have a full size steel wheel spare and no alternative bolts then I should not need to change them. However, he could no categorically confirm this.

So although partly reassured that the last 500 miles I have driven on steel wheel using the same bolts have been safe miles and having been out to check they are still on. There is still a niggle of doubt. Maybe someone on the continent where steel wheels are fitted more often as a winter option can help?

In the meantime here is a nice picture of my Scout enjoying its Steel Wheels with Snowtrac 3’s Scouting in the Snow

By the way these are Seat Altea 16" steel wheels ET50 (£65 on ebay) with 205/55/16 tyres fitted ( so light overead on speedo due to smaller rolling radius). I stuck some Skoda badges over the Seat ones on the wheel trims for the authentic look. Wheel, Tyre and Trim

Edited 30 December, 200916 yr by KayakJim

Well I phoned my dealer (West End Garage in Uphall) and they thought it should be OK but couldn't say for sure. So they investigated further with Skoda and confirmed there is no need to change anything, use the same nuts on the steel wheels as I use on the alloys.

Hope this helps!

Happy New Year all

The original steelies and alloys use the same wheelnuts (even my two BBS sets do).

I purchased some 17" wheels for my winter tyre's but you have to bear in mind you can not get standard snow chains on with them.

I assume you're in europe or go to europe a lot? Snow chains cant be used in the UK.

As far as I'm aware, Snow Chains are not illegal in the UK but you would be held liable if your use of them damages the road... and someone witnesses it :-)

well thats me told

As far as I'm aware, Snow Chains are not illegal in the UK but you would be held liable if your use of them damages the road... and someone witnesses it :-)

indeed, and in some places they are damned near indispensible (or at least they have been over the last three weeks)

By the way these are Seat Altea 16" steel wheels ET50 (£65 on ebay) with 205/55/16 tyres fitted ( so light overead on speedo due to smaller rolling radius).

Can't you adjust this is in the Maxi-dot menu to compensate? There's a "winter tires" setting in there somewhere which includes speedo correction.

I'm still swithering over steelies with winter tyres;

1 - They cost money

2 - I've got nowhere to keep a spare set of wheels

3 - The car seems to be getting on absolutely fine with the regular tyres, including an intentional foray into 4-5" of powder yesterday.

In fact I've hardly seen the traction control light flash at all since this all started 3 weeks ago, must be all those Acronyms that were in the brochure doing their job long before traction becomes enough of a problem to flash a light on the dash!

If I'm a guessing man I'd say EDL is probably the star of the show as much as 4x4 itself. Was able to single handedly (literally, I was on my own) tow my wife's Mk1 Leon out of the garage car park last week after we left it there over Christmas following a heavy dump the day it passed it's MOT. The car park was icy enough that driving gently off the clutch left the Leon in gear with your feet off all the pedals, going nowhere and a wheel spinning on minimum revs. Meanwhile the other front wheel on the "better" ground was stationary, a bit of EDL trickery would have helped the car no end, despite being only 2wd.

Driving the Scout on the same surface was night and day especially the fact that the Leon struggled to get moving, at all, yet the Scout could pull it up a hill with it left in neutral with the handbrake off! So I can only assume that Winter Tyres would make a Scout or 4x4 pretty unstoppable until the snow is deeper than the ground clearance!

Niall

(Cue probably getting stuck before this is all over and wishing I had winter tyres...............)

Winter tyres setting is only a speed warning. It doesnt compensate, as the 16" are (almost) equal to the 17" and 18".

(there is a slight difference though, but there will also be a difference when the tyres wear).

You could adjust the speedometer, but only with VCDS.

Edited 7 January, 201016 yr by magic62