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Buying a Superb 2.5TDI or 1.9TDI

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Hi,

I was looking for a 2.5V6TDI Elegance, but i've been reading around the forum and it seems that the 1.9TDI is a better engine than the 2.5TDI in terms of maintenance. Is this correct?

Does the 2.5TDI make sense as a 3-5 year old purchase with average mileage for around 7k? or should I look for a 1.9TDI of the same age?

Also, does anyone know what the service costs are for the 1.9TDI and the 2.5TDI and what the intervals are?

I would be interested to find out what the cost of replacing the cambelt is on each version.

Any help greatly appreciated, apologies if this is covered elsewhere.

Regards

Enochb

It's been covered several times before, but the 1.9PD (130) is arguably the best engine fitted to the MKI Superb.

It's 80K (or every 4 years, whichever comes first) for a cambelt on the 1.9 and it's a lot cheaper to replace than the 2.5 (which is apparently bit of a pig to do)

It's been covered several times before, but the 1.9PD (130) is arguably the best engine fitted to the MKI Superb.

It's 80K (or every 4 years, whichever comes first) for a cambelt on the 1.9 and it's a lot cheaper to replace than the 2.5 (which is apparently bit of a pig to do)

ditto

- and I presume you're not thinking of an auto...

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ditto

- and I presume you're not thinking of an auto...

I was thinking of an auto - is that a bad idea?

I was thinking of an auto - is that a bad idea?

Personally, I wouldn't buy a V6 TDi without it.

Cambelt change on the V6 is about £475 at an indepnedent.

J

Edited by JonathanK

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I know there is talk on the forum of high maintenance costs for the V6TDI, but is the cambelt change the biggest concern?

I have had a V6 TDI Auto for 3yrs now (was 1yr old when I bought it) and am really pleased with the car. I have it serviced at a main Dealer where I bought the car and they really look after me up to now.

I also run a 2.5 TDI, i've cloced up 47k (miles) since last march and the car hasn't missed a beat. I suppose it;'s different strokes for different folks, I cover 250 miles each day and the torquey V6 is ideal for me. Maybe if I was doing less mileage i might have opted for the 130 PD engine but as I say, I love my V6. :yes:

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I also run a 2.5 TDI, i've cloced up 47k (miles) since last march and the car hasn't missed a beat. I suppose it;'s different strokes for different folks, I cover 250 miles each day and the torquey V6 is ideal for me. Maybe if I was doing less mileage i might have opted for the 130 PD engine but as I say, I love my V6. :yes:

Thanks for your help. I assume the servicing costs haven't been too bad for the 2.5V6TDI. I'm about to leave the surreal world of Subaru who ask for around £800 to change the cambelt.

So the quote of £550 from a Skoda dealer to change the belt on a 2.5V6TDI seemed a winner to me, and I assume independent garages will be even cheaper!

I'm about to leave the surreal world of Subaru who ask for around £800 to change the cambelt.

Hardly a fair comparison though, the quad cam boxer engine is a pig to change the belt on (they are huge!)

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Yes, unfair I admit, but these are my current costs and the Superb is the future car so there's no other comparison I can make.

Are there any other things to look out for e.g faults, exhaust issues, etc.?

I'll be viewing some 2005/6 model cars on Sunday.

The biggest problem the MKI Superb suffers with is the 'water ingress' this is common throughout the range from around 3 years old - check for wet carpets under the passenger seat and rear footwell.

The cambelt should of been changed at 4 years old so SHOULD already of been done if it has a full S/H, don't pay sill money for one they are not worth what some dealers think they are!you should be able to get a clean FSH 50k 2005 1.9 TDi (130PD) Elegance for around £7k.

The sensible money is on the 1.9TDi 130PD manual, the newer 2.0 TDi 140 comes with more problems (DPF and oil pump drive), the V6 is old technology and although it has slightly more power, i have never felt that my 130 needed more, they have loads of torque!

I recommend you read this thread before looking at a V6! I know others love their V6 but it's best to know ALL the facts before you buy one!

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That is an extremely sad tale. Looks like a Skoda might be off the list!

Providing you buy one out of warranty (over 3 years old) and use a local good independent VAG specialist then i personally would not worry about SUK (Skoda UK).

They are great car's once a bit of tweaking has been done to them (plenum chamber drain grommets removed, pollen filter housing sealed up properly etc) which are only let down by SUK and the large proportion of their shocking dealers.

My LOCAL dealer is great, but the supplying dealer who is another 30 miles away and the ONLY garage to use a spanner on the car before i bought it is truly awful, many of the service items had not been changed (still got a 2004 date stamp on the parts, (despite the last service they did being in 2007) clips for the undertray not put back (and cable tie's used instead!)

I now do all my own service work so i know that:

a/ it has actually been done and

b/ it has been done properly.

Would i buy another Skoda? yes (that would be my 3rd in a row), would i buy one under 3 years old and rely on Skoda to do the warranty work? :swear: (not likely!)

tbh if i wanted a superb i would have the 1.9tdi 130 due to probably as quick as the 2.5 and better on fuel

i have the 1.9tdi

my cambelt got done for £240 (belt and work)

my mechanic is a mobile one, and he is part of the family but we dont get family rates if you know what i mean

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I drove a 2.6V6TDI Auto at the weekend. It was a very nice drive and I certainly want one, but that particular car had too many issues for the price.

I noticed that when accelerating from a standstill the initial response was very slow, and then picks up. Once you are moving it's fantastic, with bags of torque.

Is this normal? Has anyone had a remap done? If so, how much did it cost and were the results worth it.

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Also, can anyone confirm that car does not have the same troublesome Multitronic gearbox as the Audi

A6 2.5 ?

I noticed that when accelerating from a standstill the initial response was very slow, and then picks up. Once you are moving it's fantastic, with bags of torque.

Hi

That's one thing I was referring to about not getting an auto - certainly for the 1.9 at least, though it is a subjective opinion depending on an individual's requirements, expectations and preferences. I believe there's also issues about the longevity of the box.

Like many - I think probably most - others on this forum, I believe the 1.9 130 manual is the best bet overall when combining reliability, cost of running, economy and residual value. But then I'm biased of course - though I did very nearly pay £3k more for a new 2.5, than I did for my year old 1.9. That was before I found this forum though!

cheers

Like many - I think probably most - others on this forum, I believe the 1.9 130 manual is the best bet overall when combining reliability, cost of running, economy and residual value. But then I'm biased of course - though I did very nearly pay £3k more for a new 2.5, than I did for my year old 1.9. That was before I found this forum though!

A lot of people though actually buy the car that is 'the best' for them, so no you are not biased at all you bought what was recommended through others experiance rather than what you initially thought was the better car out of the two.

I also only looked at manual 1.9PD's as that was the most important 'spec', if the V6 had been the 'better' of the two then i would of bought one of them. :thumbup:

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Ok, I hear the comments about the 1.9TTDI. Manual is not really an option for me, so has anyone 'chipped' a 1.9?

^ mine had a el cheapo plug in tuning box when i bought it

it decimated economy and it smoked in 3rd when you booted it... but it didnt half shift. must of had around 160bhp an im guessing 240lb-ft torque. a proper ECU map is the best way to do it as this wont ruin your economy much, if at all.... and i reckon it shouldnt be too hard to get the same numbers as the V6 with better economy... you just miss out on the smoothness.

these engines are really tough though, they can take a beating... i think they chip really well.

Hi,

I was looking for a 2.5V6TDI Elegance, but i've been reading around the forum and it seems that the 1.9TDI is a better engine than the 2.5TDI in terms of maintenance. Is this correct?

Does the 2.5TDI make sense as a 3-5 year old purchase with average mileage for around 7k? or should I look for a 1.9TDI of the same age?

Also, does anyone know what the service costs are for the 1.9TDI and the 2.5TDI and what the intervals are?

I would be interested to find out what the cost of replacing the cambelt is on each version.

Any help greatly appreciated, apologies if this is covered elsewhere.

Regards

Enochb

HI

Just joined today, but have just sold my Superb 2.5TDi ( 52) and bought an Octavia.

The Superb was an excellent car, safe, powerful and with a low maintenance. No problems

although I had a wee bit expense when timing belt changed.

I am no mechanic, but local garage has an ex-Skoda mechanic.

Just thought I would express my opinion. Hope my Octavia is as trouble free and as comfortable

Benji 7

This post is fairly interesting to me as I'm weighing up a superb at the moment. :)

I'm definately looking at a PD130, the mrs' has this engine in her Ibiza and it's a real peach.

What I'm wondering is, what sort of spec can I expect to get? All the toys I have got on my Octavia I pressume, although I haven't seen many for sale with leather.

Also, what could I expect to get for about £4-5k?

Tom :)

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