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Old age and treachery wins over youth and vigour - every time ;)

It is a little like the storey of the two Bulls, an old one and a young one. On seeing a heard of cows, the Young Bull said to the older one "Lets sprint over there and have one or two cows"

The Old Bull said " You carry on son, sprint over and have one or two cows, I will just take my time, walk over and have the rest!" :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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CORRECTION:

My Monster does not lock the doors automatically - maybe a UK, Elegance or Safety option thingymigig?

Yes it can - it is a setting in the MFD, which I just found.

Now what are the Window Op. settings doing??

Now what are the Window Op. settings doing??

They can be set to allow your remote to close certain windows when you continuously hold the 'lock' button on the remote.

Also, depending upon 'auto dimming rear view mirror, light assistant, and rain sensor' being fitted, it can also automatically shut your windows if it rains!

Window settings are for:

Comfort closing (as John999boy said) windows will open/close if you hold the open/lock button on your remote.

Auto closing/opening for all doors, just drivers door or no auto closing/opening. ( for the door buttons)

Rain closing, but afaik they altered this setting. On former cars (pre 09) it was either on or off. On newer cars (I think it was because of the law or because of safety reasons) you will have to programm it every time.

To the op question:

The light clusters will have all 21w bulbs (and maybe some w5w), the bulbs are regulated over the cars electronics. Means that for normal rear light the bulbs will only get a couple % of the current. For brake light they will get almost 100 (never 100 because it will wear the bulbs too much and light isnt brighter than fe 95%. Dont know the exact % numbers, but you can see it with VCDS).

On the Octavia (pre facelift) you can alter a lot in the rear clusters. One or two fog lights, one or two reversing lights, you can alter the brightness of the different bulbs or even let the orange bulbs shine US style.

On my Mk1 Golf GTI, it was just a question of putting a bulb in the nearside cluster. I went to do the same on my Mk3 VR6, to find that the nearside foglamp was physically blanked off as part of the rear lamp casing!

Progress, eh?

On my 2004 Superb (bought in Finland) only the left side rear foglamp was operational, although there was a healthy lightbulb present in the right side cluster. Took a closer look at the harness on the right side and yes, there was a loose (disconnected) wire. Just had to fix the connector on it and et voila - I have both them foglights working now. No reprogramming, they just physically disabled the connection.

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BluesPre, Thank you for that information.

I wonder why they do not connect the wires to the second rear fog light?

BluesPre, Thank you for that information.

I wonder why they do not connect the wires to the second rear fog light?

I reckon, so it wouldn't be mistaken for brake lights. Might also have something to do with EU regulations, although I've seen plenty of both kinds, double and single rear fog lights on the road.

In other words, beats me. Dunno

Strange isn't it.

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Like almost all other VAG cars, there would be 2, yet only one would be active by default.

The 2nd can be done by a member that has VCDS.

Call me old fashioned but could one connect the working reverse / fog to the one that doesnt normally with a wire? Its like string but made of copper with a colourful covering, or is that too simple in these days.

Ciderpress

Call me old fashioned but could one connect the working reverse / fog to the one that doesnt normally with a wire? Its like string but made of copper with a colourful covering, or is that too simple in these days.

Ciderpress

No, you will get bulb failure errors.

You have to enable it properly in the cars software

Hi,

has anyone configured the 2nd fog light via Vagcom? (or whatever the latest version is)

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No one out there tried this??

I wonder, if the 2 Fog Light Bulbs were substituted with LED replacements and then linked up to provide a similar resistance to a single incandescent bulb would that work satisfactorily with out the need for programing.

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How about wiring the second fog via a relay taking its power from the battery and triggered by the first fog.

Aren't diy Can Bus towing electrics wired this way? They use a multi circuit relay powered direct from the battery with individual circuits triggered by the original (rear light, brake light, flasher etc).

tom

Both my foglights work, configured with VCDS.

I have checked in my Octy 2 FL how in fact look rear fog lights as dealer wanted to make a new wiring, socket etc to the one which is off. Sadly they don't know what they were talking about. In new Octy there are no rear fog light as such. Rear fog light task is being done by one of the red rear lights. When you switch on the fog light it just brighten up. Shame still no one seems to know how to enable second one. Even dealers.

Good news is that apparently dealers are about to get the newest software and it might open lots of new possibilities.

Just curious - why do people want to have two rear fog lights working, unless they travel abroad in the fog a lot?

I've probably only put the rear fogs on in anger 4 or 5 times over 30 years or driving and even then I couldn't see how pretty they looked... emoticon-0105-wink.gif

Just curious - why do people want to have two rear fog lights working, unless they travel abroad in the fog a lot?

I've probably only put the rear fogs on in anger 4 or 5 times over 30 years or driving and even then I couldn't see how pretty they looked... emoticon-0105-wink.gif

Even if I was using them so seldomly, I would still prefer that both were working and warning vehicles behind me that I was in front of them.

Maybe it follows that I also prefer to have 2 headlights working as opposed to 1!

I also find that fog isn't just something that occurs abroad.

I have only very occasionally used my rear fogs in over 30 odd years of driving also. It does make me wonder though, supposedly legally all lights that are fitted to a vehicle should be working and in this case and in others they plainly are not. Surely this is an offence? If someone took a bulb out of a rear fog on any other car so that only one fog worked, they would be liable to a prosecution and the vehicle would not pass an MOT either.

Even if I was using them so seldomly, I would still prefer that both were working and warning vehicles behind me that I was in front of them.

Maybe it follows that I also prefer to have 2 headlights working as opposed to 1!

I also find that fog isn't just something that occurs abroad.

Perhaps not the same as having one headlight out, each to their own.

My point on the 'abroad' thing in case it was lost in the mists of my writings, was that most countries/manufacturers have a single rear fog light illuminated on the offside of the vehicle which would be the nearside on a vehicle driving on the other side of the road to which it was normally native.

Construction & Use Regulations in the UK say that a vehicle must be fitted with a minimum of 1 rear high intensity fog light and that that light must be fitted to the off -side of the vehicle. NOTHING MORE THAN THAT. Any other light that a manufacturer might or might not fit is an EXTRA and is not technically required.

UK vehicles going abroad temporarily do not have to be fitted with any extra lights.

Lots of manufacturers only fit a bulb one side, and that side depends on which country the car is going to be sold into. It's called saving money. It might only be 50p per car, but when you produce 250k cars that figure soon adds up.

GB has a legal requirement for a minimum of one fog light but I am sure that their is also another law saying that all lights must be working. The manufacturer could have deleted the whole lamp lens but they chose not to do so. They ought to connect it up and fit a bulb. Surely if they do not then they are supplying a vehicle that is not road legal.

NO, because if it isn't fitted and specified by the manufacturer when he first puts it for C & U testing, then it doesn't exist, even if it has got a piece of red plastic and a holder there. It might sound daft, but that is the way it is.

NO, because if it isn't fitted and specified by the manufacturer when he first puts it for C & U testing, then it doesn't exist, even if it has got a piece of red plastic and a holder there. It might sound daft, but that is the way it is.

Where does it say that?

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