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2 questions tonight:

1 - If you are travelling through roadworks with a speed restriction and pass an 'END' sign, is the speed restriction still in place?

2 - If you speed past a marked patrol car, can you be done for speeding if he doesn't come after you and stop you i.e. do they carry speed camera van technology or just a laser gun without a camera?

Thanks.

Dave

1. What sort of road? If it's an NSL then the END sign should be accompanied by a NSL sign (white circle / black stripe)

2. No idea, but if you speed past a marked car you deserve anything coming your way :D

2 questions tonight:

1 - If you are travelling through roadworks with a speed restriction and pass an 'END' sign' date=' is the speed restriction still in place?

2 - If you speed past a marked patrol car, can you be done for speeding if he doesn't come after you and stop you i.e. do they carry speed camera van technology or just a laser gun without a camera?

Thanks.

Dave[/quote']

Normally they have a national speedlimit sign as well on dual carriageways, but I always thought the "end" sign meant just that as regards the restricted area.

I would have thought they would have nabbed you if you wizzed past them. I always understood they detector camera had to be stationary to be able to zap you, although video evidence is a different matter.

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The road is a 50mph dual carriageway, restricted to 30mph due to roadworks. We came to signs saying END and I told her to get a move on. She pulled out and overtook the car infront but there was a marked traffic car sitting on the verge (which had been hidden from us by the other car). We then drove past a 50mph sign, i.e. a sign lifting the speed restriction. I assumed that END meant end of everything though must admit they're usually very close together - the END and 50mph sign were a good 400m apart in this case. I'll feel very guilty if she gets points. :( Do traffic cops do you for speeding without pulling you over?

1. If you see an END sign that indicates the end of any temporary restrictions on the carriageway including speed restrictions.

They tend not to put speed limit signs up as subbies have a habit of getting it wrong! Most of the cameras (but not all) are dummies anyway and are operted by Civil Engineering Contractors anyway. Speed through major roadworks and you deserve whats coming to you.

2. They are not permitted to do you by laser or radar in the car as the glass can affect the signals. It may be possible to get done on in-car camera, and receive a NIP through the post I don't know.

Do traffic cops do you for speeding without pulling you over?

Yes

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Yes

Care to qualify that for me please?

According to the highway code, a sign with the roadworks picture (the digging man) with the word END next to it = End of road works and any temporary restrictions

Is it right that speeding in road works only carries a fine and not points?

Don't think so. Speeding is a must endorse offence on a license anyway so hard to envisage roadworks being different?

Hi,

Posted this up on 5ive-o.com and this is the answer I got, from a policeman.

It depends.

Firstly' date=' was the restriction denoted by normal speed restriction signs ( round, white background and red border)?

If so, there needs to be a traffic order associated with the signs to make it legal.

If it is electronic such as a matrix sigh seen in the central reservation then it is only advisory.

If it is denoted by signs then the 'end' will be for the roadworks. The end of the speed restriction will be by signs denoting the speed for that road under normal circumstances such as a national speed limit sign.

The officer does not need to stop you at the time as he can note the details and serve a notice of intended prosecution.

It would be HIGHLY UNLIKELY that the officers in the car would be doing speed enforcement that close to the end of the roadworks so TBH I wouldn't worry about it. [/quote']

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Boyced - No, you definately get the points too, she's got the evidence to prove that one.

Jane - Thanks for that, much appreciated. It seems a little confusing, END not really meaning end. The traffic cop was sitting just about exactly were a young lad killed himself not so long ago, there seems to be regular 'boy-racing' going on along the stretch with associated high speeds and multiple accidents. Hopefully he was out to feel their collars.

I got

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I went back to the 'scene of crime' today, its only 1/2mile from my house. It would appear my memory wasn't quite correct. There wasn't 50mph reinstating signs at any point, just the roadworks end sign. The problem was that after the end sign and after where the traffic cop was sitting, there was still a 30mph sign. This has been blocked from view sometime between last night and today by use of a sign facing in the opposite direction. It would appear we were OK to do 50mph on that stretch just that that 30mph sign was a rogue. I think I can rest easy now.

Assuming a NSL road, simply the lack of speed limit signs every few hundred yards means that it's back to the full speed limit.

Care to qualify that for me please?

Sorry amended to clarify my reply.

The Police do not need to chase and stop you to do you for speeding.

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