Just had good news that car is at dealers and ready for collection next thursday after a 9 week wait, instead of the anticipated 16 weeks. The bad news is I am being asked to pay a further £360. The dealer told me it was nothing to do with them it was something to do with the government tax, and the finance deal I had agreed to had expired after 30 days. Does anyone else know anything about this? I hope to get some clarification when I go to sign up tomorrow.

Just had good news that car is at dealers and ready for collection next thursday after a 9 week wait, instead of the anticipated 16 weeks. The bad news is I am being asked to pay a further £360. The dealer told me it was nothing to do with them it was something to do with the government tax, and the finance deal I had agreed to had expired after 30 days. Does anyone else know anything about this? I hope to get some clarification when I go to sign up tomorrow.

I've never heard that before, surely when you sign on the dotted line, the dealer knew it was going to be more than 30 days before delivery if the expected lead time was 16 weeks,

that being the case then surely the document you signed would have been a legally binding contract between you and them to supply goods i.e. the car at an agreed price! I'd have a look at the small print on the back of your order form if i was you before you go there tomorrow.

Ian.

I've never heard that before, surely when you sign on the dotted line, the dealer knew it was going to be more than 30 days before delivery if the expected lead time was 16 weeks,

that being the case then surely the document you signed would have been a legally binding contract between you and them to supply goods i.e. the car at an agreed price! I'd have a look at the small print on the back of your order form if i was you before you go there tomorrow.

Ian.

I had to reapply for the finance but that was because I waited more than 3 month for delivery... 30 days should be fine

The extra tax is paid when you pay for the road fund tax, its more for the first year AFAIK. Think they are taking you for a ride, tell them its a done deal and you want the car you've contracted to purchase at the agreed price.

definite fragrance of bullsh1t there pal.....

Edited 23 April, 201016 yr by martzweb

Unfortunately as the April brochure states:

First year vehicle licence rates for petrol and diesel cars purchased on or after 1st April 2010.

First year rate or ‘showroom tax’ applies to new car purchases only.

So as you will officially buy it on 29/04/10 you'll be liable for it.

Edited 23 April, 201016 yr by Evening Star

Surely the road tax etc is included in the on the road price which would have been agreed at time of order? Which dealer is it out of interest?

Skoda supply the car with RFT, hence its an on the road price. Remind the dealer that if you back out of the deal, they are liabel for out of pocket expenses such as reduced p/x value.

I had to reapply for the finance but that was because I waited more than 3 month for delivery... 30 days should be fine

I don't see how this could happen - if you apply for Finance and then have to wait for the vehicle to be built to spec - there shouldn't be a time limit on that finance as you have signed a legal contract with them.

usual procedure is that finance is made available and you don't start paying for that finance until goods have been delivered in a satisfactory condition..

As to the dealer requesting more money from you - that is between them and the finance company, as they (finance) actually pay the dealer - not yourself.

I'd check the fine print - but I know my new Octavia (which was signed for on 20th April and won't be delivered for a number of weeks will include 12 months tax OTR.

They have to supply road tax as you can't get tax, unless you produce a V5c - and this won't appear (unless DVLA suddenly become super efficient) for 6 weeks + so effectivley they are selling you a vehicle which cannot be taken onto the highway, which would be illegal. If they really push it - tell them you'll pay the first 12 months road tax at a post office of you're choosing when you receive the V5 - also tell them you will be charging them to hire a vehicle until you get yours on the road. Ohh and they will have to store the vehicle securely with zero damage until you return with a valid tax disc.... Space is a commodity in a car showroom

I picked up my car last week and also had to pay the increase in road tax - this is beyound the control of the stealer.

However the dealer honnoured the finance deal so I would talk to them further if they are withdrawing the offer. I also waited approx 3 months for car delivery.

Terry

Having ordered a car at the end of March in order to get the cheap finance rate I wanted, I now face the problem that the car may not be delivered in the 3 months that the finance rate is active for. The agreement I have clearly sates that it is for cars delivered before the 30^th June, after that the finance deal is no longer applicable. The dealer has sent me an email saying if the cars goes into the new financial segment then they will absorb the difference in the new rate (about 0.6% APR). This wasn’t with Skoda, but was with VAG finance. I suspect your finance has a similar clause.

VAG finance is Skoda Finance

VAG finance is Skoda Finance

I was trying to make the point that the dates and rules of a none Skoda, but still VAG deal, might be different to the ones the OP signed up for, but I suspect they will be broadly similar. I have used VAG finace before with a SEAT and the agreement seemed to pretty similar too.

I should have added I got hit with the showroom tax too, as it had just come in :(

Edited 28 April, 201016 yr by Lady Elanore

VAG finance is Skoda Finance

Actually, I'd say Skoda finance is VAG finance... But that would be me being picky

As far as I am concerned i placed my order on the 27th March and agreed to pay £xxx amount of deposit on collection, agreed a value for my current part-ex, and agreed to finance the rest at the 1.5% over 3 years which works out at £xxx amount per month. After paying £500 (ish) deposit to secure my order i happily left the showroom knowing exactly how much it would cost per month, and exactly how much i would have to pay on collection. on 28th March i got a call from the dealer to say the finance was accepted.

The only paperwork i have is a customer copy of the order form detailing all of the above.

Nothing was mentioned about a time limit on the finance so IF it turns out that i am required to re-apply for finance due to Skoda being unable to deliver my car in the 3 months, and thus resulting in the finance costing more, then this would be a breach of the terms and conditions that i agreed to when i happily placed my order. Similarly, if i am required to pay an extra 'showroom tax' on collection then this also changes the Ts and Cs that i signed up for. Surely?!

Edited 28 April, 201016 yr by Dirtydishcloth

As far as I am concerned i placed my order on the 27th March and agreed to pay £xxx amount of deposit on collection, agreed a value for my current part-ex, and agreed to finance the rest at the 1.5% over 3 years which works out at £xxx amount per month. After paying £500 (ish) deposit to secure my order i happily left the showroom knowing exactly how much it would cost per month, and exactly how much i would have to pay on collection. on 28th March i got a call from the dealer to say the finance was accepted.

The only paperwork i have is a customer copy of the order form detailing all of the above.

Nothing was mentioned about a time limit on the finance so IF it turns out that i am required to re-apply for finance due to Skoda being unable to deliver my car in the 3 months, and thus resulting in the finance costing more, then this would be a breach of the terms and conditions that i agreed to when i happily placed my order. Similarly, if i am required to pay an extra 'showroom tax' on collection then this also changes the Ts and Cs that i signed up for. Surely?!

The extra tax is outside of Skodas remit, it is government enforced so they are not responsible for that. I had to re-apply for the finance but it was at the same rate and same conditions as I originally applied. Have you actually signed the finance agreement? If not there is nothing binding with regards to that.

Typically the finance company don't issue the final agreement until the car is on the way to or actually at the dealers. All they have agreed to is an "in principle acceptance" of the loan and repayment terms which is valid for a certain length of time (normally 90 days).

I suppose that makes sense. And for vRS CR's it's £125, which is the same as the standard tax rate (IIRC) so this would presumably work out as £0 to pay. Would be interested to know where Alskoda's £360 came from though

All the best for tomorrow Alskoda and don't let the tax thing take the shine off the new car. You'll have forgotten all about the tax in 6 months but you'll still have a cracking car!

Typically the finance company don't issue the final agreement until the car is on the way to or actually at the dealers. All they have agreed to is an "in principle acceptance" of the loan and repayment terms which is valid for a certain length of time (normally 90 days).

OK so if, sorry WHEN my car doesn't arrive in the next 90 days and IF Skoda have stopped doing the 0% finance over 2 years for 50% of the balance deal, can they turn around and say ' tough ****, you need to pay 9% APR now'!??? :(

Although it seems the salespeople were negligent in not informing their customers of certain deadlines (you probably could claim this was misselling), do I take it that nobody read their financial agreement before signing it? Has any one read the document since to find out about possible deadlines? I found out about mine by looking online at the small print (this was before placing an order).

if its based on the 2.0CR with normal box then its no extra on the road tax. The finance is part of the deal that you signed on as was the "on the road price" which any good dealership would have included the correct rate of duty that needs to be paid.

Mine was order in September and arrived in December the finance was honoured at the rate that the deal was signed on. My understanding from my dealership was the finance is based on when the order form is signed not when the car turns up and I'm sure it even states in Skoda's own conditions of the offer its for orders placed before <insert date here>.

I would say no I'm not paying anymore and that would be that.

if its based on the 2.0CR with normal box then its no extra on the road tax. The finance is part of the deal that you signed on as was the "on the road price" which any good dealership would have included the correct rate of duty that needs to be paid.

Mine was order in September and arrived in December the finance was honoured at the rate that the deal was signed on. My understanding from my dealership was the finance is based on when the order form is signed not when the car turns up and I'm sure it even states in Skoda's own conditions of the offer its for orders placed before <insert date here>.

I would say no I'm not paying anymore and that would be that.

But you ordered your car from a decent dealer though didn't you....

I ordered my car at the start of March, the dealer included the new rate of tax in the OTR price as it was fairly obvious the car would be registered after 1st April. Even the vauxhall brochures were listing both rates of VEL prior to the increase. Its your responsibility to pay the tax either way, but I'd be wanting to push the dealer for a little compo if it was their oversight

Having ordered a car at the end of March in order to get the cheap finance rate I wanted, I now face the problem that the car may not be delivered in the 3 months that the finance rate is active for. The agreement I have clearly sates that it is for cars delivered before the 30^th June, after that the finance deal is no longer applicable. The dealer has sent me an email saying if the cars goes into the new financial segment then they will absorb the difference in the new rate (about 0.6% APR). This wasn’t with Skoda, but was with VAG finance. I suspect your finance has a similar clause.

That's interesting cos the official Skoda website clearly states, as Polo says, "for new car retail ORDERS taken before 30th June 2010".

You can see it here: -

http://www.skoda.co.uk/offers/offers.aspx?section=4#offer333

It says it be varied or withdrawn at any time, but NOT after you've ordered the thing!

That's interesting cos the official Skoda website clearly states, as Polo says, "for new car retail ORDERS taken before 30th June 2010".

You can see it here: -

http://www.skoda.co....tion=4#offer333

It says it be varied or withdrawn at any time, but NOT after you've ordered the thing!

I guess I’d have to see the full finance doc that was signed, but you are right that it doesn’t give any specifics on the site.

Perhaps more interestingly (or not for some probably!), is that I ordered my car having gone through a finance example with the salesman and left my details for him to sort out the finance as and when required (closer to delivery time).

I didn't sign a single financial form on the day, just my order documentation.